Not always when you don't know which characters the scum have been assigned, but in this case we do know so in theory the mod would have to give them fake claims to counteract a mass character claim day 1.Talitha wrote:Are safe claims pretty standard in theme games these days?
But you don’t bother to say anything about what he did say. You just sluffed it off. It’s comments like this that make me have my eye on you.KMD wrote:Charter, that's your case? Really? That's it?
Please elaborate on why you don’t like a Kats lynch. I’d really like to see your reasoning why his behavior (complete lack of scum-hunting, hammer and immediate distancing before the flip even happened) doesn’t deserve the rope.KMD wrote:Magna, I don't like either the LMP lynch or the Kat lynch.
Short and accurate answer would be “Yes, but with the occasional exception”.Tal wrote:Are safe claims pretty standard in theme games these days?
Tally was on Raj, on LMP, and now on Kats. That's a lot of following popular wagons. Though tbh, I have them 2 and 3 in scumminess. (I'm really not sure what to make of Kats, she's probably flying under my radar a bit).MagnaofIllusion wrote:Not much time at the moment ...
Just wanted to point out how fascinating (in a hmmm am I seeing scummy Inconsistency?) I am finding that Tal is catching all kinds of hell for her vote of Kats yet Charter has received not a peep.
Both hopped onto the wagon (which I heartily approve of, more people should) with a quick post after having previously expressed suspicion about Kats.
Yet only one is under fire.
Nice spin job, but you didn't just unvote to give yourself more time, you unvoted and voted the other wagon.Talitha wrote:Why is my justification not particularly plausible (in your opinion)? You've never run someone up to L-1 then unvoted to give yourself time to think about whether you want to follow through with the lynch? You've never seen town do it?
No to both.Talitha wrote:The Fonz,
Why is my justification not particularly plausible (in your opinion)? You've never run someone up to L-1 then unvoted to give yourself time to think about whether you want to follow through with the lynch? You've never seen town do it?
Really? Wow.LynchMePls wrote:@The Fonz: I see no reason scum Tal wouldn't unvote me and vote Katsuki-scum or Katsuki-town.
Charter is smart enough to know that a list isn't a reason to vote. A list is just a way to show where you stand. I quoted the list to show that I was just voting a read from before. I was trying the whole early Day 1, just vote from the background thing that Glork and a few others have done in the past, but I couldn't stick to it. So I just quoted my earlier scum/town reads and showed that I was switching from one scum read to another. Rajjksldfjkslf;jadskf responded with OMGUS attacks on me and that post where he says Magna and I should know he's town because we've seen him as town before. This was the scummiest thing Rajkdlfjadskfjask said, which is why I was happy with my vote. The whole list thing comes in when Rajjdkfljasdklfjads says it was my reasoning. My response was that I hadn't posted any reasoning. Charter is trying to say that because I quoted my list when I voted, my list must have been my reasoning (obviously, the list was just my early reads).charter wrote:Why everyone should vote Kmd:
Doesn't give any reason for voting Raj, but all he talks about is Raj being scum. Raj calls him out for citing his list as his reason for voting him, Kmd claims he didn't (even though he quotes his list just on top of his vote for Raj). He actually spends more time talking about how he caught Raj in another game, but gives no reasons Raj is scum in this game.
Kmd also spends quite a bit of time explaining to us how he plays as scum (118, 163). I'm sure everyone else found it as helpful as I did.
Then the most questionable thing is probably the hammer and comments after it, but I'm not quite sure how it would actually benefit scum to act like that. It seems to me like the town explanation would be pretty straightforward, but the scum one quite convoluted, and in that situation the player is more often than not town. There's enough there that Kat isn't obvtown by any stretch of the imagination, but I think he's a -far- worse lynch than LMP.Katsuki wrote:Whaddya know, I saw bv post earlier today, yet he is avoiding this game like the plague.
So she’s on wagons that you generally find scummy or null but that is a scum-tell for you? Generally don’t you find players who follow wagons onto players you find scummy to be more likely to Town, if you are?Fonz wrote:Tally was on Raj, on LMP, and now on Kats. That's a lot of following popular wagons. Though tbh, I have them 2 and 3 in scumminess. (I'm really not sure what to make of Kats, she's probably flying under my radar a bit).
QFT.Charter wrote:Ahhhh, Katsuki posting all over the site but avoiding this thread now that he's about to be lynched. Obvscum trying to lurk out of it.
Noted for future relational discussion.Jahudo wrote:Katsuki's already was suspected for avoiding the thread, and he responded by saying he doesn't bookmark games, so its possible he's not intentionally avoiding the thread. I don't know how it can be proven one way or the other.
But he definitely should get in here and respond to the wagon on him.
Yet you had plenty of time to be posting Saturday and Sunday in many other active games. That you couldn’t take the time to post anything then and now try to excuse your inactivity on a movie is laughable.Katsuki wrote:/prodded
Black Swan has my nerves in tatters at the moment. Too tired now, stuff probably tomorrow.
One player I find very scummy, but the other two I don't think are great wagons. Raj's wagon was just less obviously horrible than yours. Essentially, I find evidence of independent thought to be townish, and its absence to be scummy, and Tally just looks like a sheep.MagnaofIllusion wrote:So she’s on wagons that you generally find scummy or null but that is a scum-tell for you? Generally don’t you find players who follow wagons onto players you find scummy to be more likely to Town, if you are?Fonz wrote:Tally was on Raj, on LMP, and now on Kats. That's a lot of following popular wagons. Though tbh, I have them 2 and 3 in scumminess. (I'm really not sure what to make of Kats, she's probably flying under my radar a bit).
And yet unvote immediately following a claim (and she posted twice between the L-1 vote and the claim, so she had the opportunity to unvote prior to claim if she really just wanted more time) and even worse, assert that the manner in which he claimed (mixing up Peterman and Peterson) instinctively makes her think him more likely town (and no, pointing out that you're being hypocritical doesn't change the fact).Talitha wrote: Re: current bandwagon. My motto (stolen from mith) is "lynch or lynch not, there is no claim". I.e. In the decision to lynch, the claim shouldn't matter.
I haven't a clue what you're talking about, I do have LMP as number one, and obviously so.You have also been consistently voting for LMP. Why don’t you have him as your number 1 on the scumminess scale? Who is your number 1 scum suspect then?
I’ll elaborate below …Fonz wrote:I haven't a clue what you're talking about, I do have LMP as number one, and obviously so.
I read this statement as saying the following –Fonz wrote:Tally was on Raj, on LMP, and now on Kats. That's a lot of following popular wagons. Though tbh, I have them 2 and 3 in scumminess. (I'm really not sure what to make of Kats, she's probably flying under my radar a bit).