Last game I remember with him was a long time ago where I was a wierd third party-ish role who had to help scum but only knew who one scum was, and he was town, looked really pro-town, and then got himself modkilled. May have played with him more recently though, although if I did he was far less memorable there.Ellibereth wrote:llama have you played with ben before.
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Okay, look at the voting patterns at the start of the game.
3 pages later...Fate wrote:Unvote:
Vote: Guderian
Less than an hour later...DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Guderian
Soon...iamausername wrote:VOTE: slowsilverLlamaFluff wrote:unvote
vote slowsilver
Consecutive posts.Jack wrote:unvote, vote:slowsilver
Then...Pomegranate wrote:VOTE: slowsilver
Consecutive again.gandalf5166 wrote:VOTE: slowsilver
Nice big counterwagon springing up though there's some town votes on there too. The timing (after the Guderian wagon looks like it has a chance of taking off) is just too convenient...
Guderian's posts themselves:
/self-explanatoryGuderian wrote:benmage wrote:Vote Andrius Kitoari's replacement. This is a real vote.
I agree, more wagoning.
Yeah... so many things wrong here. You're not voting... anyone... yet you call for a bandwagon. On a stupid BM vote. For no reason.
Comedian of the year award goes to...Guderian wrote:Fate, im not sure what you're trying to pull, and you can drop the aggressive act. Do you think you appear town by trying to be aggressive and getting your name out there a lot? Its annoying.
Passive as hell.Guderian wrote:parama, that's quite a list you've got there.
Wow. You're really serious here? And you're still not voting. The lack of a vote is quite damning. If you think someone is scum... you vote them.Guderian wrote:If youre trying to get scum lynched, maybe you should vote yourself, instead of me? Just a thought.
How about a FATE case on you?
1. the second letter of your name is an a
2. the second letter of mafia is an a
3. YOUR SCUM SPAM SPAM SPAM
The fact that you changed your numbers is a scumtell in itself <____<Guderian wrote:Why did I change numbers to 1,1? Because I believed that no one else would pick them, thus I could choose the role I wanted.
This is just being dumb, but also a huge distraction. This may be the worst logic I've ever seen.Guderian wrote:What if scum all picked 6?
There's just no way these posts are coming from a town player. It's ridiculous how scummy this guy is, even without the voting patterns of the thread.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Parama - He is just bad town who is arrogent because he got top pick and now has loud people yelling at him making him act like an ass. Almost positive he is town here. I wont vote him outside of him explicitly claiming to be scum.-
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That's because I'm posting. Don't worry, I don't have anything worth posting atm unless someone asks.
@Llama - That's not the problem I have with him. I am arrogant as hell always. That doesn't stop me from scumhunting while also getting people to side with me. And claiming to change numbers is in fact explicitly claiming to be scum. But whatever. We don't NEED your vote to lynch him.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Also can you change your sig? I don't like being reminded of Popularity Mafia.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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ok, I checked the other pick your power games
#3 3/5 unique numbers scum
#2 1/2 unique numbers scum
#1 2/4 unique numbers scum (keep in mind there were two mafia groups here)
So I take back my previous point, it is HIGHLY likely that in the four unique numbers we have in this game, two are scum. (The actual percentage is over 50%) But, I can make this a lot easier. I know I am town, so 2/3 of these people are more than likely to be scum:
1. volkan
2. chkflip
3. gandalf
It might even be more benficial to force all four of us to claim, and examine the picks. Some roles will definitely make more sence from a scum side v. a town side. In this way, we could potentially wipe out 40% of the scum team over day 1 and 2. (or potentially day 1/ night)
With these numbers in mind, I reread the other three people.
I have ordered them in order of scumminess:
Gandalf
chk
volk
Why?
Gandalf:
nervous?Oh, and Hoopla had such sound reasoning behind most of her post up until then. Why exactly are we voting for me?
sheeping.Oh wow. Pretty much what Pom said.
VOTE: slowsilver
there was a case against you and me? I think it was based more off number selection. Look defensive.I had a big post responding to the case against me and agreeing with the case against Guderian
You then proceed to answer WHY you dont have the case instead of posting the case!
chk:
looks like diversion tacticsRetry:
- 3] I think it's likelier for scum to double up on a choice that they think is more sound than others.
were they really?- (9,5) were the first numbers that popped into my head. Completely random
volk:
With the other two above him, he falls to the bottom. His posts look sound so far, I cant see anything that would push him too heavily one way or the other.
with all this in mind
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I dont have a problem with you, I know you are arrogent as well, I am too to an extent at least. That doesnt stop me from trying to not have people I think are town lynched, or stop me from getting people to agree with me that they are town. I dont hink that changing numbers is a big tell if someone is playing a WIFOM game, I think most of the people voting him are leaning town, but I just have a mislynch feeling here.Parama wrote:That's because I'm posting. Don't worry, I don't have anything worth posting atm unless someone asks.
@Llama - That's not the problem I have with him. I am arrogant as hell always. That doesn't stop me from scumhunting while also getting people to side with me. And claiming to change numbers is in fact explicitly claiming to be scum. But whatever. We don't NEED your vote to lynch him.
But whatever, I dont NEED you to vote someone else to stop him from getting lynched. Im going to fight this as long as it is there I think. Also I thought I removed that from my sig, so will do that now, although im rerunning it with a different theme and ranking system axed.-
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I don't care about convincing you in particular to vote for him. I'm following what I believe too, y'know.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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I know, I just am replying in the same style of post for the irony.Parama wrote:I don't care about convincing you in particular to vote for him. I'm following what I believe too, y'know.
Also im thinking scum team looks like this:
Benmage
xvart
Inhim
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I was calling for the bandwagon on myself because it seemed thats where everyones mind lay. All those people voting me, well to me, it is quite funny.Yeah... so many things wrong here. You're not voting... anyone... yet you call for a bandwagon. On a stupid BM vote. For no reason.
You seem quite dead set on my scumminess, which is also quite funny, and misguided. If you turned all your brain power somewhere else, actual scum will be found a lot sooner.
And whats with all the quotes of people voting. You are implying something there, but not really saying it. Make it direct, so people can see what the heck youre saying.
WIFOM time:
If I was scum, and I had four other scum in quick chat to bounce this idea off of, do you really think I would announce to the world "Hey, I changed numbers because my buddies told me to do so, hahahahah?" Really?
Parama - He is just bad town
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Really? Not much you are doing suggest anything contrary, you are managing to hit emotional town tells though.Guderian wrote:Parama - He is just bad town
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I want to gouge my eyes out. This speculation of what the first person in the draft would take AS TOWN is useless imo, given the wifom attached. Can anyone provide me a game with benmage as scum? His play is not what I am used to when not fighting with fate.
That said, slowsilver early on seemed like he was trying to look like he was doing something (eg. "wagon/vote analysis" around page 2-4) when the post itself was utterly useless.
Vote: Slowsilver
@Guderian: Why did you choose 1,1. Was it because you wanted first pick? And if so, why?
Parama is probably scum. Just a feeling.
I will re-read this game when I am in the mood to read through benmage/prana banter.Cupcake Mafia II has been delayed due to multiple instances of multiple computers spontaneously combusting...-_--
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@Guderian: Why did you choose 1,1. Was it because you wanted first pick? And if so, why?
The point of the draft was to pick numbers to get high to pick a role you wanted, to actually get a role instead of being a vanilla as I have been and usually are in most games.
So I wanted first pick so I could pick a role I wanted. I did, and I did.
also le, go to #231. looking at the previous games definitely gives weight to the theory.Where Confidence and Charisma Collide-
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iirc scum only gain a 15% advantage from knowing what numbers not to pick. I'm not sure that all the past games had the same format as far as scum discussion and I don't think we can really project from that small amount of data. 1 is likely, well of course one is likely scum are ~25% of the town anyway.
If scum do have a tangible advantage I would guess that it's not from knowing what the others have picked as much as it is spreading out and hitting the holes where people don't pick much (it seems like 10+ has a great chance of being unique). But I haven't checked that out.-
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I need to catch up from page... 7. Will try to do it tonight, but I have a LOT of work.Show"You're a silly Pom. Silly silly girl." -Fate
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Sowwy >_<" -scumFate.
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so 4/7 of the unique numbers in the last two games were scum, 3 of them from picking 10+. Also 6/7 of the unique numbers were 10+. But it seems that for this game people have cottoned on with 7 people picking 10+ numbers (compared to 2 in pyp2 and 4 in pyp3).
HOWEVER
Fate, me, hoopla, and prana have all played before and presumably noticed the high numbers thing.
Le cupcake, xvart, and gandalf are better suspects. We are looking for someone who ended up with a high number because of scum intentionally spreading out.
xvart wrote:I chose the numbers I did because I looked back at PYPIII and saw that the first numbers 10 and 11 were second and third in selection, so I picked 11 to emulate that in hopes of getting near the top. I picked 7 because I didn't really know how the second number worked so I just went with the 11,7 that the third person to pick in PYPIII picked.Le Cupcake wrote:On a whim, mod rushed me. I like the number 10.
LOLgandalf wrote:2.IDK
gandalf replaced in and thus didn't pick his numbers. So why is he saying "I don't know" when asked why he picked them?
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