Nachomamma wrote:Mas, what do you think of Substrike's willingness to switch his vote from you to Richard, since you were both scum together anyways?
I didn't notice this. Looking back, I think his switch from me to Richard looks a bit opportunistic. It was so early in the game that he still could've tried to convince people to vote me, and it seemed like he suspected me much more.
Nachomamma wrote:What do you think of post #167?
As others pointed out, his reason for voting SpyreX was inaccurate, but I still don't know if I believe his explanation or not.
SpyreX wrote:Like I said I don't feel bad in the slightest about throwing a hammer. I'm not stoked at seeing it coming and tsk,tsking instead of claiming but so it goes.
Why didn't you ask for a claim before hammering?
FakeGod wrote:@mas: 1) You say I went from "suspecting him a bit" to "Richard is scum." In the first post you linked, I made my vote on Richard official, if you didn't realize. I already believed he was scum from the first post you linked, and I didn't change my mind suddenly, contrary to what you're saying.
In the first post I linked, you said:
FakeGod wrote:Of course, the alternative is that we caught 2 town, and scum are fueling both sides, but nevertheless, I'm going to stay with my original vote till further developments.
Why would you say that you would keep your vote until further develops if you already thought he was scum?
FakeGod wrote:5) Seeing that I voted and defended my vote on Richard which eventually resulted in his lynch, I'd say I'm playing Mafia.
Reread the point:
FakeGod wrote:Lastly, FakeGod has brought
hardly any points
up against players and has given us
hardly any reads
to work with. He's been useless.
From memory, you've given one read this whole game (your scumread of Richard) and one point (a counterwagon forming after Richard's indicating that he's scum).
FakeGod wrote:And if I didn't give you any reads, how did you come up with all these points above?
Contradiction.
I never said you didn't give any reads. I said you gave hardly any. Points 1 and 2 revolve around your read of Richard. Point 3A doesn't revolve around a suspicion. Point 3B revolves around your vote for SpyreX, but you never actually say that you find SpyreX suspicious. In fact, I'm not 100% if you actually suspect him or not. Point 4 doesn't revolve around a suspicion. So, yes, it is possible for me to have points against you despite you not having many reads. There's no contradiction.
Reckamonic wrote:Suspecting SpyreX for hammering isn't scummy in and of itself - it's just opportunistic.
How is suspecting SpyreX opportunistic? I think there are only 1-2 people that actually showed suspicion of him before me if any.
Reckamonic wrote:Oh, and mask;jk;in's vote on FakeGod is eerily similar to his suspicions on SpyreX and Shotty in 195. He pops up, cast suspicion, then just goes "Hey I'll explain later".
I've given reasons now, so what is the problem?
Reckamonic wrote:He wants FakeGod to show games where he saw a counterbandwagon rise against scum. Is this a serious request? Because this is a pretty fucking common thing, and we don't think we need to see any at-length examples for most of us here to agree that this happens often.
Okay... Thinking about it, that probably wasn't a good question, but I guess my point is that a counterwagon occurring could be rescuing a townie also and it is just as likely that the person being saved is town as they are scum if not more likely.
Reckamonic wrote:Oh, and his 'scumslip' that he found on FakeGod is weak - people include themselves in the numbers all the time. Had he said 2/6 instead of 2/7, you'd be saying he's scum for exactly the opposite reason.
I believe he should be taking his allignment into consideration when writing those numbers because if he's town, he's the only person he knows is town, and therefore should be scumhunting with that knowledge in mind. FakeGod, you say 2/7 isn't much more than 1/3, so why did you bring up the statistic in the first place?