The Lord of the Rings Mafia - GAME OVER (KABOOM)

[bv310]

Okay, I'm on semi-stable internet now, still battling my new computer though, which I managed to spill tea on. Anyone know how to clean the sugar residue out from under a keyboard?

Anyway, I've read the last page or two, and I can support a Zwet lynch.

Unvote, vote: Zwet

[Edge]

Okay, I'm on semi-stable internet now, still battling my new computer though, which I managed to spill tea on. Anyone know how to clean the sugar residue out from under a keyboard?

Anyway, I've read the last page or two, and I can support a Zwet lynch.

Unvote, vote: Zwet

Take a shower with it; hold it under the rain tree.* Let your sugary worries wash away.





*unplug it first

[Edge]

OH HAI REAPER.

KATY IS SCUM ALL THE WAY AS MUCH AS IT PAINS ME TO SAY VV'S CASE IS GOOD.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT EDGE WAS THE FIRST TO CALL KATY SCUM. SO WE GET ALL THE CREDIT WHEN SHE EVENTUALLY FLIPS.

(cant get bussing goto waste, amirite?)

[Edge]

I KNOW. I SAID KATY WAS SCUM PAGES AGO

YARRRRRRRR

DON'T MESS WITH THE LOTR PIRATES!!!

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

YARRRRRRRR

The correct amount of Rs is 2.

Lynching Mariyta and/or SlySly this early looks like a bad plan.

I'm not sure whether we can get a Katylynch in 2 days and a zwetlynch is fairly comparable, so

Unvote, vote: zwet

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[rewq455]

Its apparent that this whole Mariyta/ SlySly/ BV thing is not getting resolved today.

VOTE: Zwet

[rewq455]

Zwet is L-1.

[Dekes]

Hey guys, sorry for the absence over the weekend...I went from drunk to sick and I'm in the process of recovery right now.

PEdit:
Originally there was vote here, but I just saw rewq's post.

zwet, is there more to your claim than Arwen, miller?


Things I didn't like over the last few pages:

- bv not voting Sly after accusing him of lying
- Mariyta going from voting Sly for several reasons to "it is entirely possible that all three of us [Mari, Sly, bv] are town" in the very next post and then following SpyreX on the zwet wagon for weak reasons (being full of shit doesn't equal scumminess). The same SpyreX she called scum not too long ago.
- zwet wagon = scum on it. My first guesses would be Mariyta and Nero Cain. And rewq is just...you guys could've just told me he's a known VI before I made an Iso of him...

[rewq455]

Hey guys, sorry for the absence over the weekend...I went from drunk to sick and I'm in the process of recovery right now.

PEdit:
Originally there was vote here, but I just saw rewq's post.

zwet, is there more to your claim than Arwen, miller?


Things I didn't like over the last few pages:

- bv not voting Sly after accusing him of lying
- Mariyta going from voting Sly for several reasons to "it is entirely possible that all three of us [Mari, Sly, bv] are town" in the very next post and then following SpyreX on the zwet wagon for weak reasons (being full of shit doesn't equal scumminess). The same SpyreX she called scum not too long ago.
- zwet wagon = scum on it. My first guesses would be Mariyta and Nero Cain. And rewq is just...you guys could've just told me he's a known VI before I made an Iso of him...

What is a VI?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Village Idiot

[Katy]

Not if your buddies are in trouble though. It makes perfect sense for scum to bloc-vote for survival. I was expressing a slight suspicion on this very possible possibility. (Also, no way I'm reading a game I didn't read.)

Well, all I can say to that is that's not how I roll, but you can either believe that or not. In any case, it is impossible for what you have pointed out to be a scum block vote, since both WeirdRa and Katsuki were on there and they were on different scum teams.

Now then, I have particular dislike for your #856 for its contents with a pinch of gut. If you are scumbuddies with WeirdRa, you would know that he had Gimli(impt. character) as a fake claim and were testing waters to see if it will absolve him, while keeping your vote on the second largest wagon. (Also a slight point out to rewq's scumminess, null but it seemed off.).

If I had known what WeirdRa was going to claim I would have voted for him before the claim, knowing that it wouldn't actually save him. It was pretty obviously not even intended to work, but to draw a counterclaim. If I were his buddy, I would have tried to hop on that wagon before the claim, or to hammer like rewq did.

But I didn't know what he was going to claim and was willing to give him a chance to do so. It was L-1, there was still about two days to the deadline, and I believe it was SpyreX was trying to get people to hammer before Weird made his claim. That doesn't sit well with me, especially as I did read WeirdRa again and nothing jumped out at me as horribly scummy, and the only person who seemed to have made a clear case for him was Mariyta. I wanted to at least give Weird the night to claim. The only reason the push to lynch him without claim doesn't seem scummy is because he was scum.

I also think it's pretty damning that the only time you've mentioned WeirdRa D1 (prior to #856) was in #562 (Very very slight 'I will reread WeirdRa' and failing to do so) also in your #717 (soft defense + 'I will reread WeirdRa', and STILL failing to do so)[/quote]

I didn't mention him because nothing he was saying was sticking out to me. His ISO didn't even go beyond one page of fairly short posts, and there were other people I was focusing on. I am sure there were many other players I didn't mention either because I didn't do any "let me list who I think are scum and town" type posts so I think I only really talked about the people I was focused on at any given time.

@LockeLamora

and

@VV

: Earlier I laid out a very similar argument against SlySly, who seemed to me to be much more active in trying to drive votes away from Weird. I was reluctant to vote for him myself before hearing his claim, but was not actively trying to move votes away. I also pointed out rewq's behavior at the end of the day. Why do you think I look MOST like a WeirdRa buddy? Why more so than either of those two?

With deadline in two days and the thought that Zwet might persist (along with noticing in my read that many people who are insisting that we ignore Zwet were either scum or seem scummy to me) I will vote Zwet any time we are ready to end the day. At this point, with two scum bagged in two days, I see no reason not to just go ahead and lynch him. He hasn't contributed anything, and as a miller with a claim that seems obviously faked, I see no point to keep him around.

After reading things through today, I also want to

FOS: Cogito Ergo Sum

. This player seems to be posting just enough to not seem to be lurking, has jumped on every popular bandwagon, and given no justification for votes or contributed anything in the way of scumhunting, really. He's playing a very good "fly under the radar" game and also buddying up to Glork, who is one of the more town-seeming players.

[Nero Cain]

zwet wagon = scum on it. My first guesses would be Mariyta and Nero Cain.

[Mariyta]

- Mariyta going from voting Sly for several reasons to "it is entirely possible that all three of us [Mari, Sly, bv] are town" in the very next post and then following SpyreX on the zwet wagon for weak reasons (being full of shit doesn't equal scumminess). The same SpyreX she called scum not too long ago.

I did a re-read and came to the conclusion that it's possible we're all town. Are you against people changing their opinions? I'm not the only one who did so. If you think about it and put your obviously set-in-stone opinion aside, it could very well be the case. Or it could be as inHim suggested. Aside from the fact that I know I'm not scum, the third option (that both Sly and I are on different factions) can be mostly ruled out, as I highly doubt there would be 3 watcher-like roles in one game. As for "weak reasons," being full of shit totally equals scumminess in this case. Did you read his "flavor"? It's so totally crap it's funny. He's clearly scum. And I still think SpyreX could be scum, but that doesn't mean I'm not willing to help him lynch his buddy (or his scum opposition, if the case may be).

[Edge]

HERP DERP THERE'S SCUM ON THE ZWET WAGON?

NO FUCKING WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SlySly]

It's my ScumDay, get your party on!!!

IMO, zwet is still vigbait and still is a wasted lynch.

UNVOTE: Mariyta

VOTE: rewq

[inHimshallibe]

zwet lynch is terribad.

I'm willing to hammer.

[SpyreX]

inHim <3

MAKE IT SO

[rewq455]

zwet lynch is terribad.

I'm willing to hammer.

yet you didn't....

[Bilbo Baggins]

It's time for . . . an announcement!

As the surviving members of the Council contend with one another and high-strung nerves grate (and deep down everyone wishes to get down to business with swords, not words) - something strange happens.

You agree on something.

No matter how much you would or would not wish it, zwetschenwasser will not be the victim of your battle today. He sits among you, but to harm him, you all know, would be impossible.

zwetschenwasser cannot be lynched today.

With 18 at table it takes 10 to lynch and 9 to no-Lynch.

The votecount has been reset!

[Mariyta]

WTH???

[Glork]

Seriously, a Governor?

Somebody's freaking dumb as balls.

VOTE: VasudeVa while I figure out exactly wtf I want to do today.

[SpyreX]

Not dumb as balls.

UNLESS they flat out confess right now that was a scum governor saving a scum broseph.

With deadline looming.

Unvote, Vote: A2R

This was for later but it can happen now. And fast.

[Mariyta]

Deadline is in 32 hours.

I'm honestly at a loss for what to do right now. I'd prefer a SpyreX/CES lynch, but rewq makes me beat my head against a wall. No lynch is almost always bad. Maybe we should consider taking me or Sly out for informational purposes at the very least?

P-edit: SpyreX makes a good point. I'd forgotten a2rude was even in this game. VOTE: a2rude

[rewq455]

Not dumb as balls.

UNLESS they flat out confess right now that was a scum governor saving a scum broseph.

With deadline looming.

Unvote, Vote: A2R

This was for later but it can happen now. And fast.

I agree we only have 2 days.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: A2R

It is apparent that whoever stopped this lynch is scum, as no sane town member would stop a lynch on somebody this early in the game, this close to deadline.

[SpyreX]

More than that - Governor, if scum, has to have minimal uses.

So, WIFOM (stupid in general) doesn't even apply here because why would you waste it NOW on town-zwet.