Newbie 1010 (Game Over)

[bird1111]

Vote Count:
Razgriz (3): neil1113, Civil Scum, Yoenit
Civil Scum (2): Razgriz, nevermind
neil1113 (0): No one
Catterpillar (0): No one
nevermind (0): No one
silverbullet999 (0): No one
Yoenit (0): No one

Not voting (2): Catterpillar, silverbullet999

With 7 alive it is 4 to lynch.

Deadline Vote Count:
Razgriz (3): neil1113, Civil Scum, Yoenit
Civil Scum (1): nevermind
neil1113 (0): No one
Catterpillar (0): No one
nevermind (0): No one
silverbullet999 (0): No one
Yoenit (0): No one

Not voting (3): Catterpillar, silverbullet999

With 1 not having posted in the last 48 hours, 0 currently being replaced, and 0 currently requesting their votes to not be counted at deadline, 6 votes would be counted if deadline was now, and therefore it would take 4 votes to lynch at deadline. Deadline: October 22nd@8:37 AM EDT/GMT-4 (12:37 PM GMT). Countdown to deadline can be found here.

[Yoenit]

mod, Nevermind is voting Civil scum

Fixed.

[neil1113]

^^^^ Crap, he beat me to it... that's what I was going to say.

[Catterpillar]

Speaking of Nevermind, where's he at?

Not to mention Raz. If he doesn't show up in the next 36 hours I'll hammer.

[silverbullet999]

Cat... I'm hammering come midnight EST..

[neil1113]

Speaking of Nevermind, where's he at?

Not to mention Raz. If he doesn't show up in the next 36 hours I'll hammer.

I don't know what to make of this. Either you missed Silver's post, or you're trying to buy him more time... which would then raise the question...

Why? Why would you buy someone who is almost guaranteed to be scum, more time to build a defense? Perhaps more time to help him with his defense on your scum boards? >_>

I'm not accusing you of being his partner, but when someone did (Civil) it seemed like you suddenly wanted to alert the town that Civil has a good chance at being scummy too. You seem to be missing some main things lately, which doesn't run well with the town if that's who you're playing for.

[Catterpillar]

Christ, sorry, I'm massively fail today, go ahead and hammer him midnight if you think that's a good time, Silver >___>

[Catterpillar]

If I didn't make it clear I just missed Silver saying that.

[silverbullet999]

it's ok cat i forgive your blondeness or bruneteness... I'll hammer midnight cause frankly I think raz is scum and we have given him more than enough time to make a case

[silverbullet999]

alright past midnight where i am... hammering

VOTE: razzy the scum hizzle

[bird1111]

You string up Razgriz, ignoring his protests of innocents, and then check his house to see if you were right. A thourough search of the house turns up nothing that points to him being a mafioso or a Cop, and considering it reminds you of Olinea's house more than Vincius Chaim's, it becomes clear that Razgriz was nothing more than a Townie.

Razgriz, Towwnie, lynched Day 2

Night 2 begins, choices due Sunday@7:35 PM EDT/GMT-4 (11 PM GMT)

[bird1111]

You wake up, glad to have woken up at all. You go to the town square, to take another try at finding the mafia that have invaded your village. When you arrive, you do a headcount to see if everyone who left it yesterday returned. Unsurprisingly, there is someone missing, and it soon becomes clear that the missing person is silverbullet999. You check his house, and sure enough, he's dead. Looking around, you quickly realize that he was nothing more than a Vanilla Townie.

silverbullet999, Vanilla, killed Night 2.

Day 3 begins, with 5 alive it is 3 to lynch. Deadline: November 6th@2:00 PM EDT/GMT-4 (6:00 PM GMT). A countdown to deadline can be found here.

[silverbullet999]

WTH! I've been killed off from both of my games! BAH!!! [\bah]

[neil1113]

Raz and Silver were town... which leaves us 5 people left. 3 Town, two Mafia. If we mislynch here, we lose. I've really got to reread before I say anything, I can't believe I was wrong about Raz.

Also, please be very careful about placing your votes. Since there are 5 people left the majority is three, if you misplace a vote, the two mafia could hop on it and win the game. If you don't mind, everyone who's in the game, post your top two choices of scum. I think if the town works together as a town is supposed to, we'll find the scum.

[Civil Scum]

Considering that almost half of the town is scum, working with other people in the town can be dangerous.

[Razgriz is] not the cop.

Could you explain this fully?

I can't believe I was wrong about Raz.

Anymore of this?


Razgriz...razzy razzy...every BW and 3 mid-late game OMGUS votes while denying that they were OMGUS... good god in heaven!

Aye, caution in votes is key, one misplaced vote can do it.

I'm not sure what to think about Catterpillar, since I was basing it almost entirely off of Razgriz. (and his,'Neil, I don't see why Ups is scummy...but he is likely to be scum with you')
Only now can I see that he meant that if Neil was right about Ups, it was probably because he was bussing him. Crapola.

I would have said Silverbullet if he managed to be around today, getting like one vote all game from Nevermind (for causing some topic of discussion? wtf?), though that would have been largely WIFOM.

My gut says Nevermind and Yoenit. Yoenit has pretty much coasted the whole game.

Nevermind claimed he was lurking before because he was busy with school and sports. He has remained busy with an exact sort of consistency, admitting he is lurking, but always posting enough to avoid serious attention or replacement.

In my pre-emptive defense, I mentioned those things about Razgriz because they were good reasons. I didn't make-up things up or use bad reasons for those cases. Silverbullet obviously voted in all the mislynches, and hammered Raz. I haven't been very "on" this game and have made some mistakes. But obviously, being where we are now, every townie in this game has made mistakes.

[neil1113]

Could you explain this fully?

Take a careful look at my posts Civil. I'd rather not say anything else, unless needed.

Anymore of this?

I'm not sure what you mean here?

[Yoenit]

Oh, early daybreak again? Raz being a townie was quite a suprise, why did he act so damn scummy if he was just a townie?

My top two choices at the moment are:

Nevermind, who has been lurking as a mothaf*cker, as Civil so elegantly pointed out on day 1

Civil Scum, who is either scum or an extremely destructive townie, being the driving force behind both the Olinea and the Raz mislynch.

[Civil Scum]

Getting lynches isn't destructive. It's constructive.

Also, lynching townies doesn't make one scum anymore than lynching scum makes someone a townie.

I god damn knew it was you yesterday Yoenit!

[nevermind]

if i had to pick now, the scum are civil and catterpillar.
also i think a massroleclaim is good here, if it hasn't already happened (in case you haven't noticed, i'm not exactly following this game)
yeah i'll check my role PM and get back to you guys

[nevermind]

oh yeah, i'm a VT.

[Catterpillar]

I was waiting for nevermind to post before I commented on anything in case he actually posted something

But seriously. What the fuck never? I mean really. You had to check your role PM to know what role you are. You decide that a mass roleclaim is in order and proceed to initiate it without waiting for anyone else to comment on it.

Your conduct makes me want to bash my head against the wall. Why didn't you just request replacement if you weren't going to play the game?

You're driving me crazy because you don't post enough content to be able to get a proper read on you.

Civil and neil are my pics for the moment. Never would probably replace one of them if he bothered to play the game.

Preview edit: this came out ragier than I intended but I'm feeling too sick to change it so I'm going back to bed.

[Civil Scum]

Civil and neil are my pics for the moment.

Feel free to put some weight behind this whenever you get the time.

I believe that Nevermind has been lurking intentionally.

[nevermind]

catterpillar, apart from me being in this game, is there anything specifically you're mad about?

[neil1113]

Well the CP - Nevermind encounter seems extremely forced (or rehearsed)... It seems like CP is intentionally trying to get an accusation (by Nevermind) off of her, though it was quite obvious it was just speculation and with no real proof or evidence supporting Never's claim. That seems as Raz put, "paranoid" except in this case it really does. How could Pillar make such an outright disrespectful and rude response to Never's accusations, without proving anything but instead trying to shift the playing field to might I say, arguably the two most active people in the game. Funny.

Now I'm not trying to say Civil is or is not town, don't read that this way. It just seemed like Pillars move was a very weak, scummy attempt at looking like town. If anyone agrees, I'd have no problem pursuing a possible lynching on her right now. >_>

[Civil Scum]

You're driving me crazy because you don't post enough content to be able to get a proper read on you.

Civil and neil are my pics for the moment.

Never would probably replace one of them if he bothered to play the game.

This doesn't seem to concern you as much as it should imo. Being LyLo and being as Nevermind could very well be scum. A quick ISO will reveal that he has been very interested in voting for townies all game. Although we can obviously see that townies regularly make the same error.


Neil, you're continual soft-claiming of 'cop' while quickly trying to run a lynch through is not good for the town. Firstly, all it would take is one townie who "missed it" and then we've blown it. Nevermind that you have all but stated it frankly. But now's abouts the time you either clearly claim cop outright/official-like, or you say you were messing around. And then we can go from there. I'm sure some of us will have questions for you at that point.

To tell you the truth, I'm initially skeptical. I don't think you would have risked soft-claiming right before the end of D-2 if you were really the cop.

Also, I've been somewhat doubtful of us having a cop when we consider the scum's N-1 choice. That night they had no reason to doubt VC's claim of doctor (and they obviously didn't). So to kill him makes good sense if the scum are goon-goon (ie- no cop in the game), and to just be done with the whole PR thing. But, if they are goon-roleblocker, then that NK was a very poorly calculated move. They passed up a chance to simply block VC and take a stab at killing the cop. Which also leaves in VC as a D-2 mislynch prospect, and a general source of confusion and distraction. Given the player's here (who are MORE than competent), I find it unlikely that the scum would have made that error. I find it even more unlikely that the error was "made" intentionally to cast doubt on a real cop's later claim.

So, that VC was immediately killed after claiming realistically suggests to me that we are probably dealing with goon-goon scums, and that we have to be EXTREMELY careful about a cop claim. And I'm not sure why I should believe you. Assuming that you are claiming cop. Which it is pretty obvious that you are soft-claiming.