Mini 1072 - Battle of Alcatraz

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Apparently the scum win by freeing themselves. I don't think it would be best/possible for the town to free themselves.

vote: RC

I hate role playing... It gets on your nerves after a bit.

Also, I agree with Copper/Exe. I don't think it is safe to assume (when one assumes with out information they make an ASS out of U and ME) much about this weird dynamic until we gather more information.

@ Fate, do the "unlocked" prisoners become scum?

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wow, you are the only person who has ever been "excited" to play with me... lol

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From my rule reading the freed people don't change sides. They just contribute to the scum win con. This is like a non-recruiting-cult, that wins by "tagging" people.... I agree TheButtonMen; we shouldn't talk too much about the setup at this point in the game.

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So what happens to the guy that gets lynched? Is he out of the game or free?
On the other hand, I don't believe set-up speculation at this period is pro-town because scums have more info than town at this point of the game.

Vote:Spyrex

This post holds little Irony. However I did speculate on the setup and said the same thing... Now thats Irony .

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Irony=

i·ro·ny
(plural i·ro·nies)
noun
1. humor based on opposites: humor based on using words to suggest the opposite of their literal meaning
2. something humorous based on contradiction: something said or written that uses humor based on words suggesting the opposite of their literal meaning
3. incongruity: incongruity between what actually happens and what might be expected to happen, especially when this disparity seems absurd or laughable
4. incongruous thing: something that happens that is incongruous with what might be expected to happen, especially when this seems absurd or laughable
5. theater Same as dramatic irony
6. philosophy Same as Socratic irony

Microsoft® Encarta® 2006. © 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

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Gleen from above what you will, I don't think the use of irony is a scum tell though.

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@Budj,I just felt like posting that... (I really hoper that was an emote...)
@Nopoint, so let me get this straight, you don't think set-up speculation is pro-town. Spirex didn't speculate about the setup. Now following your reasoning, spirex isn't anti-town in that respect, in fact he made the same point that you made in that vote post. So at this point in the game let's use your logic and say that all the speculators are anti-town, RC is one, muffin is another (I think), etc. Spirex holds the same views as you on setup speculation, thus using your logic, he isn't anti-town. Shouldn't you have voted for some one who you do think is anti-town? For me, (even if the case is very weak) we are out of RVS,

unvote Vote: NOpoint

@kat, I hate people like you (not to offend you...). Don't post that some one is scum if you don't have a single reason for him being scum.

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@ Kat, just to clarify this, I read the game:

Vote: Exe

Shameless bandwagoning.

Your reasons...

EXE IS STILL SCUM GUYS.
WILL CATCH UP TOMORROW.

more reasons...

NO

THIS IS NOT SETUP SPECULATION
THIS IS SETUP CLARIFICATION

EXE IS SCUM.

other reasons...

So your reasons are its a shamelessbandwagon, and Exe is scum... am I correct?

[lyingscumbag="Kat"]

Fos:Kat

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Only reason not voteing you is because I want to let NOpoint speak.

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btw/fyi, those posts make up 3/4 of his iso, so kat what are your reasons for Exe being scum? (if it is an RVS vote that’s fine, but don't ya think its a bit of a stretch to call someone scum on page 3???)

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@hi, implying that at this stage in the game he would be a good vote.
@kat, so your reasons are: He's da scum, and its a wagon... okay, fine by me.
Read more in-depth into Exe...

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@Exe, why the need for the unvote on iso #3?
I accuse you of distancing on two accounts, the first (also in iso #3) is light, but the one in number #5 seems more deliberate. And how can his post be mostly logical, yet completely wrong. It seems to me that you are just trying to dodge...

@kat, I did a full iso, quote your non-existent post if you have a ligit reason for your vote.

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@exe, who di dI just unvote, and vote for? That isn't an RVS vote.
@Kat, I'm taking your vote as RVS...
I woke up late and can't post much right now.

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@exe, I have my vote on NOpoint, that is not an RVS vote, your point is void.
I amd a bad typo, it should read:
@EXE, Who did I just vote for? That's not an RVS vote.

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@exe, as you like it, I find kats persistent defense of his RVS vote to be scummy, NOpoint did answer to my concerns (after re-reading it) and I am satisfied by his responses, thus

unvote, vote: kat

I find you to be town.

@muffin, I agree to that, however I don't see him as scum atm.

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@kat, I repeat the reasons you are voteing Exe are:
BANDWAGON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE'S DA SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I SWEAR I HAD REAL REASONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(the above is not a mis re I'm reading your iso right now... Sorry but you sir got cought lying...)

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@rc, I don't see Exe as scum, he is scumhunting (on me atleast). And did you just claim in that last post? And are you asking for a claim?

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I still think exe is town, getting to it RC.

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Answers part 1:

@hi, implying that at this stage in the game he would be a good vote.

Ok, why not just move your vote? Why did you say you wanted to wait for nopoint to speak first? I got the "Well, I'll move my vote to you as soon as nopoint posts again" impression from it.

because it is only just for the other party to have a chance at a responce before I move my vote...

Did I say speculating is a scumtell?

Refer to post 133.

@rc, I don't see Exe as scum, he is scumhunting (on me atleast)

Ok, how does that make him town? Oh wait, it's on you. And you're scum. I get it.

scumhunting is pro-town, and when he flips town you guys had better kiss my butt.

...LOL kat.

Okay Vote: Exe

The only tell you've seen is OMGUS. Is that it?

Unvote; Vote: Cooldog

I've got your scum right here. McGriddle's next in line.

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more latter.

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@RC, I don't see you asking me anything in your iso, would you mind clarifying?

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Sorry I didn't post yesterday, I came down with a bad cold...catching up.

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@exe, no it won't be because Spy is an actor (that is the correct name for him). And if Spy is in fact an actor L-2 becomes the new L-1. I still don't find him scummy...

mod, I have my vote on kat

@RC That is not a correct proof for 1=2, I don't have time to explain to you the logical errors in that, thus you are not a 2x voter.

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vote kat

just to make sure.

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The Exe wagon is a very bad lynch, RC's case is bull. The others don't even have a case. WHAT THE HELL GUYS. I would never vote on such a horrid wagon, you can call me his scum buddy but I have a very bad feeling about the wagon.

@RC, I didn't post yesterday because I had a bad cold, does that make me scummy too? Also day 1 reads are sketchy at best so asking for a scum list isn't the most productive thing in the world. Second question why did you not post your top 3?

@all, I hereby worn you guys that if exe is lynched and he is town I will not be on that wagon…

@TBM, I prefer a Kat lynch, a MCG lynch is passible…

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@Hi, because I have read the game and exe doesn't show any sign of scummyness, case on cat is that his vote was backed up by very poor reasons, and he hasn't posted any content at all. Using your same logic TBM should also be lynched because he also is strongly against the Exe Lynch. I just warning you guys that there are several more scummy people.

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Exe is a bad lynch, but I want to know who he thinks is scum on his wagon. And also Exe, if you are a vengful townie who would you kill?

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no, I'm lobbing for a kat wagon, he jast hasn't responded at all, have you ever tryed talking to a brick wall before?

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@copper, or it could just me be asking him who he thinks is currently the scummiest player. If I were scum I would kill the most townie player not the most scummy.

@Kat, So what content have you posted, going through your ISO I find 0 to none. Explain your lack of content before Spy hammers.

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No one killed, hmm... Cult game anyone?

Kat still hasn't posted content, and he gets my vote untill he does

vote: kat

. Sorry that this post is short, I'm pretty late as it is.

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KAT,McG (recent posts), and Muffin. I realise I may seem like I'm tunneling on kat but he has NOT posted any content. I don't think it defends his lack of content.
@cooper, it seems that it is most likly a cult type game (just read the mods posts). There is no reason for the scum to not kill.

Sorry that I can't post more...

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READ THE MODS POSTS GUYS. HE's talking about un-locking people. That leads me to think that this is a cult game, thats all I was saying... Do an ISO of the mod if you don't trust me....

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@spy, *sigh* read the goddamn mod posts...
@Copper, I never bought the case on Exe and he acted town to me, I was not for his lynch simply because I had a town read on him. TBM said the same thing too (ask him the same thing).
@Nkanor, I agree with what you posted and it seems to be in-line with what the mod posted (for those of us that actually read his posts).

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But what do the un-locked prisoners do? Do they just sit there? Do the help scum? Because if they in some way help the scum I consider that to be a cult game. Sorry guys but your points don't add up.... Give me a case and I will answer to it.

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@spy, if they don't help scum then why do they un-lock them? The scum would never entertain an action that would gain them nothing or hurt them. Also why the quick vote change? I still think that this game has a recruitment system (lets face it un-locking is the same as recruiting or allowing night actions to be done on them...). That is all I'm trying to say. And am I correct in saying that your whole case hinges on me saying that this is a cult game?

@NOP, I've been trying to tell these people all of d-1 that it was but they wouldn't listen, I still think most of the town thinks he flipped scum...

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And that makes it (in my humble opinion) a cult game, thanks for understanding my point spyrex.

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So, just a randomn question, whats the case on me?

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@spy, or recruted by them, think what other outcomes other then a recrute/un-lock could there be? A doc save, a 1/11 dice role?
I still see no case on me and thus I can't refute anything.
MCG is scummy but Kat has yet to post content in this game.

@Kat quote some content that you have posted.

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When you show me that you have posted content I will give a complet and full reponce to your questions (I think I already have but...). As a matter of fact I'm looking into it right now...

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The three questions you asked me are:
Why is Exe town
Why is Kat scum
And Why did you not answer to the first question.

1) I never had an exe scum read, and He posted content I could only read him Null at best...
2) Active lurking, not posting content, making pointless votes and clinging to them, and for not answering to my comments/questions...
3)I think that I did answer that when NS posted his question, but if I didn't you have your short and to the point answer above.

In conclusion I find your ISO loaded with lurkyness and you have yet to make a post with more then two lines worth of content, and that was in only one post.

@All who votes for me... What’s the case on me again? I will keep tagging this at the end of my post until I get an answer.

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@kat answer my questions. Other then that I don't have much to post.

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Why don't you comment on what's going on in the thread?

What do you think of the Exe flip other than "I told you so"?

Exe was clearly town, no scum would respond under pressure like he did. And the town should be more carful this lynch

What do you think of noipointinactingup, or McGriddle?

nopoint, is nul, McG is slightly scummy, I wouldn't mind him being our lynch, but right now I'm for a kat lynch

What do you think of SpyreX's hammer? Was it something a townie would do like that?

considering the fact that exe was clearly pro town, no. I have him at a slightly scummy read (less the McG). He is scum hunting...

What do you think of my and Copper's cases on Exe? Were they completely worthless?

pretty much worthless

Basically:
Do you have anything useful to say? or are you just going to pretend like everything that needs to be said has already been said?

I have stuff to say about lurker kat but he hasn't posted yet, I was tired that night and wasn't in the mood for posting

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vote rc

, he an't my scum buddy but I think acting off a cop on d-2 with little leads (except kat active lurking and refusing to answer to me) is a good move.

Also kat, answer my damn questions.

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weak claim though, anybody can set up a half-assed bread crumb like that...
Also what are the chances of two cops beeing in a mini game?

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I think RC is the best lynch for today... The way he has responded screams fake claim.