Mini 1072 - Battle of Alcatraz

[ReaperCharlie]

"Welcome to the yard, boys." you hear a menacing voice say, as a six-foot-four, bald-headed man in a leather jacket punches his fist into his palm. "I'm gonna make you all my little daisies. Now who wants to wear the pretty little skirt?"

It's that ex-Marine triple-murder convict, ReaperCharlie, known as "Big RC" by the prison guards. He gets his kicks out of making fools out of the more homophobic men in his cell block. He doesn't appear to be homosexual himself; he just likes to feast on the fear and loathing of other, lesser men, whom he calls "his little daisies." They routinely return from the yard with black eyes, bruised faces, and torn clothing.

Every day is a gamble on the odds, every day a fight to prove your masculinity, in the Alcatraz prison yard.

Big RC looks your way, and you cringe with fear.

[ReaperCharlie]

Hah. Good luck with that... I'll turn your sorry little shapeshifting face into a static, lifeless painting.

*begins to pound Exe with crushing right hooks*

[ReaperCharlie]

"Lil' RC"

Wait, just saw this.

OH NO YOU DIDN'T.

Vote: Exe

[ReaperCharlie]

Hurry somebody hammer before he can fake claim!

[ReaperCharlie]

If anyone breaks rule 3, they will be modkilled and the day will end- to put it in regular mafia terms.

4.) If there is no majority at deadline, there will be no lynch for that day.

does not compute

>_>
<_<

[ReaperCharlie]

P.S. Sweet. I get to play with Muffin. I've been wanting to play with him ever since The Brave and the Beautiful.

[ReaperCharlie]

If anyone breaks rule

3

, they will be modkilled and the day will end- to put it in regular mafia terms.

Sorry to be a stickler, but:

3

.) Once a majority is reached, that person is lynched.

3

.) I am Fate, the all powerful and omnipotent philosophical entity. I am also Warden of this prison, and

should anyone make any mention of their cell being unlocked, I will execute them on the spot and put the prison on Lockdown

.

STILL does not compute

parsing error: multiple rules with identical numerical specification

GOD DAMN IT REAPER YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.

[ReaperCharlie]

Ok, so, from reading the rules, I gather that the scum are cult-like, free people instead of killing them. Ok.


-Are people are still allowed to talk and vote once they are freed? They don't, like... treestump, or anything weird, they're just recruited into the cult, right? That's weird, not having anybody NK'd. It's gonna be cool, but... ominous.

-If so, how do the scum win? They free people, but... they have to free ALL 12 before they win? That sounds really really hard, if everyone is still alive. Or else they have to REALLY control mislynches, otherwise it seems totally stacked for us to win. OR...

-Or is it just, "have a majority", the same way as usual? (i.e. wincon: you win if at any time during the day your numbers equal the town's)... that sounds ok. Sorta like instead of mislynching 1 at day, killing one at night... they just recruit 1, and the balance swings the same amount as it would with a mislynch and an NK? That actually sounds balanced in favor of the cult, because they don't even have to mislynch. Its still like, an automatic 3(?)-day mylo if we can't lynch the scum 'free-r' or cult leader or w/e? GAY

-How do the 'locked up' players lynch the 'freed' players? (if the answer is "Because everyone's in the prison yard, duh", then refer to the next question.)

-What is the flavor explanation for that the 'freed' players still go to the prison yard with the rest of the prisoners, but then are still put in "lockdown" each night?

-And speaking of Lockdown, wouldn't it, like, REALLY suck for the scum if they 'freed' everyone but 1, and then somebody made a mistake and said something about being freed, and then EVERYONE was put in lockdown again? That doesn't really make sense to me. Wouldn't they lose all the work they just put in? ROFL!


I had more questions initially, but I forgot while I was writing the above ones. Dam# it.

[ReaperCharlie]

So the scum cult has to control the voting, in other words. Ok.

[ReaperCharlie]

Exe (4): ReaperCharlie, SpyreX, Katsuki, Muffin

Haha!

Unvote

The community effort to buddy up to the playground bully is noted. rofl

"Big RC doesn't need help to pound people into the ground!!"

"Hulk, SMASHHHH!"

[ReaperCharlie]

It's very scummy try to discourage discussion of the setup.

They already know it, and they don't want the town to figure out any more than they already know.

IGMEOY: TBM, Budja, Hindu, Cooldog

There is very likely at least one scum in there, if not both.

[ReaperCharlie]

I leave this thread for a few days and LOOK WHAT YOU GUYS DO.


1. First and foremost: I DESPISE this quick, painless, and seemingly misguided early wagon. Scum on it, guaranteed. Perhaps multiple. And I know who at least one of them is. Read on.

2. After a quick ISO, I notice: Exe votes for me, THEN LATER, unvote/revotes me (i.e. not paying attention to who he's voting for, because it doesn't matter to him as long as

somebody

is lynched. The game is only 3 pages long. This is not hard to keep track of). Then, when called out on his reasons for voting me, unvote/votes Mr ActingUp over there when it looks like any wagon on me is dead/dying, and NoPoint's wagon may well take off. Scummy in two ways. (category: not paying attention to who he's voting for, just jumping on wagons with poor reasoning) (category: opportunistic, )

3. In his most recent post, Exe (inexplicably??) apologizes for being inactive (after only just over a day's absence). Keep in mind, he's posted as many or more posts than 2/3 of players in the game, AND nobody's called anyone out yet for lack of content. Not even the guy(s?) who have only posted twice. Scummy (category: false sense of having to contribute, feeling like he's not doing enough, feels like he has to apologize to stay in town's good graces. even though nobody has said anything, and his 'offense' of being 'inactive' was far from egregious. Heck, I haven't posted for days.)

5. Logically then, 2 + 2 = scum.

Vote: Exe

Irony (with a capital 'I') seems to be a trend here...

Also. My suspicion is: whoever jumped off Exe's wagon "too easily" may be a scumbuddy (if they were on it to begin with).

Also.

Common sense + common tells say that if another mafia is on nopoint's wagon, they probably did not START the wagon, so that means Copper is

probably

not scum. Orrr wait. Perhaps he IS scum and just started the wagon on a trifle to see if it would go somewhere, and then people liked it, and it led to a 'good' (fast) wagon, based on very little actual evidence... But then every time I read his posts, he looks pro-town, so I'm totally unsure, but.... *wifoms* ... ahhhh... never mind. Ignore my wifoming. This is just me. Concentrating. Hard. Making everything more complicated than it needs to be.

Either way, it's still MUCH more likely that it's somebody in the middle (i.e. spyrex/cooldog) ... or mayhaps one of the "lurkers", if you can even call them that yet at this stage of the game.


ReaperCharlie out.

[ReaperCharlie]

^ I don't like that post a bit.

[ReaperCharlie]

[ReaperCharlie]

ebwop: That was at Exe. Dam# you, Muffin.

[ReaperCharlie]

There is a big difference between setup speculation (i.e. postulation of personal opinions), versus clarification of nebulous wording in the ruleset. Asking the mod questions about the rules does not constitute setup speculation. Which is why discouragement of said clarification, especially under the brand that it is speculation in and of itself, is quite scummy.

To me personally, it looked like a reaching attempt to paint someone else as scummy, when there was nothing inherently scummy there. That's what scum have to do. Make up sh*t out of thin air, throw it against the wall, and hope it sticks.

But even if it doesn't really stick, there's always the chance someone else (usually a newbie, under the belief that the scum's "oh noes! setup speculation! FoS:u" accusations are actually a valid argument) will jump all over person who formulated the "speculative" statements, and then commence tunneling on them, thereby likely instigating an OMGUStunnel in kind. Then, a lenthy (but ultimately useless) verbal battle ensues, because usually the person asking the mod so many questions is a newbie too! (though there are exceptions in a game like this when the rules are quite nebulous at first blush). And during all that, it gives the initial accuser (who is actually the scum) a perfect chance to fade back into the lowlights, chuckle deeply, and watch a mislynch virtually create itself.

[ReaperCharlie]

@exe, as you like it, I find kats persistent defense of his RVS vote to be scummy, NOpoint did answer to my concerns (after re-reading it) and I am satisfied by his responses, thus

unvote, vote: kat

I find you to be town.

@muffin, I agree to that, however I don't see him as scum atm.

What do you think of my case on Exe? Did you ignore it?

[ReaperCharlie]

"Hey," Big RC shouts, looks down on everyone in the Alcatraz prison yard with a menacing glare. "It's time for some Truth or Kill, see?"

*he rolls up his sleeve to show... an eagle-globe-anchor, some dog tags, a skull with a bayonet in its mouth, and a heart with an arrow through it that shows 'MOM' on it in big letters... but... no Crimson Angels tattoo.*

"Lets see your ink, boys. And I mean pronto-style. Or it's party time."

[ReaperCharlie]

OOOUUU a new challenger approaches.

Kat, show the lie if its there and make this easy peasy.

And I don't much like SpyreX's cheerleading of the U NO U exchange.

NOT TO MENTION...
If there is a lie there Spy, why wouldn't you look for it yourself?


This looks like scum looking for an excuse to bus their caughtscum buddy, all the while hiding under the flag of others.
"Hey Kat, show the lie, make it EZPZ" and "Reaper, can I sheep you soon?" are not what town-Spy normally does, in my experience.

But then again, Exe's attacks on Cooldog look almost like scum trying to reverse bus their teammate so that when Exe flips scum we won't suspect Cooldog. Stay tuned for the results of my re-read.

Approximate time of arrival for these results? ...stay tuned for that too

[ReaperCharlie]

Spy, why are you ignoring Exe?

[ReaperCharlie]

?

Try again, good sir.

Let me rephrase...


SPYREX, WHY ARE YOU IGNORING EXE.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah, I ISO'd you and searched for "Exe" too.

......

[ReaperCharlie]

Yea Exe, of course peeps are piggybacking me. Cause my case makes sense.

Not to mention, you have done little or nothing to alleviate my suspicion, except using rhetoric to make it look like you said something other than you meant. Vote stays. By the way, your yelling match with Kat is solving nothing. Apparently it's over now, but she's still voting for you...?

TBM is tunneling. As usual. On somebody who I think is probably a townie. As usual.

Katsuki is 100% failcakes. Posting on the wrong account, reading comprehension fail, etc. Just... no. But probtownish, due to her last few posts.

Evidently SpyreX is fine with the Exewagon, but is loath to actually hop on and take it for a whirl. Spy, please quicksplain why you are still on the absolutely terrible nopoint wagon. a) It's horrible. b) It's dead. c) Did I mention it was horrible.

Same with Copper, who hasn't posted for a couple of days. Copper. Oh, Copper. Wherefore art thou, oh Copper.

Cooldog, honestly, I'm not feeling that wagon at all. Exe is much juicier. I would however like Cooldog to answer all of the questions directed at him. Not answering is quite scummy, even if you missed the questions. And they HAVE been repeated, so you have absolutely no excuse. (Never mind that they were from Ms. Failcakes over there ) ... (actually, I asked one too, now that I look back. so hop to it, Mr.)

Hinduragi (who?) is making jokes. Terrific. Terrifically useless. Don't see why he is voting Cooldog over McGriddle (and also ignoring Exe for the most part). Perhaps it's a mid-wagon bus on Cooldog or something strange but that vote seems pretty erroneous.

Budja = sheep. I like those. (when they're following ME that is). Baaaaaa <3

Muffin is posting stuff like "I agree/disagree with X" and "Not really sure what I'm supposed to be doin', so I'll just sit here and do nothin', kay?" and being overall kinda useless, which runs against the town meta I saw of him in The Brave and the Beautiful. Soooo igmeoy Muffin.

Nopoint needs to post moar. Vote on Cooldog in post #97 looks like OMGUS, but he does quote Kats' case of Cooldog not answering questions, which adds a bit to the soup. I am coming around to liking Cooldog's wagon too, but I would like to see more from Nopoint.

McGriddle is also useless. blatang omgus, NO CONTENT. I would also support a McGriddle wagon if it comes to it, but as I said. Exe is juicier.



...

For the record, it's Big RC's scumday, and he likes chocolate cake w/chocolate frosting, and all colors of candles mixed together!

[ReaperCharlie]

Heyo Cooldog. you seem pretty cavalier about knowing Exe is town, and expecting butt kissing if he flips town. I wonder, how could you possibly know this with any certainty? You just went way up the scumdar buddy.

mostly just a gut feel, Nopoint, based on the tendency for there to be less scum than usual when cults recruiting mechanics are in play. two < three, which is 'usual' for a mini.

@ Exe: not just if you are town; I would say they are suspicious regardless. even if you are scum.

also @ cool: #108. mostly said that the way I did because you seem to be privy to something that we are not, and are therefore averse to an otherwise juicy Exe wagon.

Basically, splain.

[ReaperCharlie]

does not compute

[ReaperCharlie]

OK WHERE IS ALL THE ACTION.

EVERYONE, TOP 3 SUSPECTS. NOW.

[ReaperCharlie]

#179 is pretty awesome. And here are my 3, good sir.

My top 3 suspects are Exe, SpyreX, and whoever else has an X in their name. (jk, WILDCARD like Spy).

I want to hear from Copper, Hinduragi, Budja, and Muffin.

Everyone else, go take a walk.

[ReaperCharlie]

Wait, so Spy, you're a hammerer or somethin?? WTF?

*pulls wiki out of his back pocket and starts perusing*

[ReaperCharlie]

Nothing on the wiki. Care to elaborate, good sir?

[ReaperCharlie]

k Lets see where this takes us.

Unvote; Vote; Exe

[ReaperCharlie]

noooooooooooo spyreeeeeex

go go gadget

[ReaperCharlie]

I know I saw that. H/O lemme rectify that.

Vote: Exe

WITHOUT unvoting first.



*waits for his doublevoter beard to grow*

[ReaperCharlie]

MATHEMATICAL PROOF THAT 1 = 2

1.

Let a=b.

2:

Then ab = a²,

3:

a² + ab = a² + a²,

4:

a² + ab = 2a²,

5:

a² + ab - 2ab = 2a² - 2ab,

6:

and a² - ab = 2a² - 2ab.

7:

This can be written as 1(a² - ab) = 2(a² - ab),

8:

Cancel the (a² - ab) from both sides, and...

9:

1 = 2. _//

[ReaperCharlie]

Therefore, I am a doublevoter even if the MOD doesn't know it!


*mulls over the situation, stroking his Doublevoter Beard*

[ReaperCharlie]

Exe: Try reading the thread. The answers will reveal themselves to you.

TBM: If your vote is not on Exe, you are DEAD WRONG. I hate how you always split the vote away from GOOD wagons with your TERRIBLE tunneling. UGGGGHHH

@RC: Can you reply to my counter case against your Exe case?

I didn't realize you wanted a response. Here ya go.

2. After a quick ISO, I notice: Exe votes for me, THEN LATER, unvote/revotes me (i.e. not paying attention to who he's voting for, because it doesn't matter to him as long as

somebody

is lynched. The game is only 3 pages long. This is not hard to keep track of). Then, when called out on his reasons for voting me, unvote/votes Mr ActingUp over there when it looks like any wagon on me is dead/dying, and NoPoint's wagon may well take off. Scummy in two ways. (category:

not paying attention to who he's voting for, just jumping on wagons with poor reasoning

) (category: opportunistic, )

3.

In his most recent post, Exe (inexplicably??) apologizes for being inactive (after only just over a day's absence).

Keep in mind, he's posted as many or more posts than 2/3 of players in the game, AND nobody's called anyone out yet for lack of content. Not even the guy(s?) who have only posted twice. Scummy (category: false sense of having to contribute, feeling like he's not doing enough, feels like he has to apologize to stay in town's good graces. even though nobody has said anything, and his 'offense' of being 'inactive' was far from egregious. Heck, I haven't posted for days.)

5. Logically then, 2 + 2 = scum.

Vote: Exe

2>
a> I don't agree with this point. I think a town has more of a mentality to forget their RVS vote.
b> I agree that his vote on me was off.
3> I think that's a null tell. He is a bit inactive in comparision to the usual Exe.
In conclusion, I'm not feeling the Exe wagon. I think CoolDog and McGriddle and more likely scum. In addition to blatantly not paying attention to what I was saying, he's also looking more opportunistic than Exe. Note that right after my post #56, he had 2 posts unrelated to my RVS explanation. However, as soon as people were expressing approval for my wagon he began sheeping others' reasoning to bandwagon me. If he genuinely thought I was scummy from that RVS explanation, why didn't he start the wagon himself when he was there first to do so.

2a) k. Agree to disagree.
2a) k. Agreed.
3) Never met the "usual Exe" so I wouldn't know how active he is. Apologizing for it out of hand is scummy though. Especially since nobody asked for an apology or said anything about his absence. It's a subconscious thing; scum do it. I know. I feel like doing it too, every time I'm scum. You know how those TV shows try to take you inside the mind of a bank robber? Well I'm taking you inside the mind of scum. Simple as that.

[ReaperCharlie]

HAHA! Are you kidding me?

Your argument is that since you are playing to your scummy meta, that it is not scummy, and therefore you are not scum?

Where's my rope. WTF is this sh*t.

[ReaperCharlie]

Just because you

always

do something in a scummy way, doesn't make it

not

scummy!

And besides, look at your OWN SIG:

"Do not expect me to play to a meta."

So lets see here.... in your sig, you are going out of your way to make it clear that you're

not

playing to meta, but now once you've been called out on doing something scummy, you're going out of your way to say that you

are

playing to meta?

LIES, I TELL YOU! LIIIIEEEESSS

CAUGHTSCUM NEEDS ROPE NAO PLZ THX

[ReaperCharlie]

cool story bro

[ReaperCharlie]

TBM: If your vote is not on Exe, you are DEAD WRONG. I hate how you always split the vote away from GOOD wagons with your TERRIBLE tunneling.

In your mind who's being wagoned right now?

Exe is. With 3 other dueling counter-wagons tied at 2 votes each.

(lrn2reedvotecountz)

And you are sitting on a fruitless counter-wagon, being useless. As usual.

What's your point?

[ReaperCharlie]

Hinduragi. Why are you ignoring Exe too?

F&ck.

[ReaperCharlie]

*wants to make love to post #229*

*desires knowledge of Coppers true identity*

*drools just a little bit*

*wipes it up*

[ReaperCharlie]

@ Exe: If you actually DO flip town, which I highly doubt, who do you think is the most likely to be scum on your wagon?

---

@ Copper: I find it highly odd that you just told Exe to "self vote and end it all" but still haven't voted for him. Everything just TOTALLY flipped around from last night when I wanted to make love to your post... NOW it sounds to me like you're throwing down an uber-bus on Exe, but still hoping to get a no-lynch if possible if nobody else will vote him.

You and SpyreX have both mentioned that you're willing to vote/hammer him, but then you tell him to vote for himself?

Self voting/hammering is probably the WORST thing you can possibly do (besides no-lynching on Day 1), so why would you even THINK about telling him to do that, if he had even the SLIGHTEST chance of being town?

If that doesn't make sense to anyone else (and yes, things I say routinely DON'T make sense because I type them differently than I think them), let me break it down.

1. If he's town and you're town, you have NO reason to tell him to self vote. If he does, it's anti-town, plain and simple, on both of your parts.
2. If he's scum and you're town, you have NO reason to tell him to self vote. It wastes discussion time. This evens out as deadline approaches.
3. If he's town and you're scum, you have EVERY reason to tell him to self vote. It'll makes him look bad and anti-town even after he flips town.
4. If he's scum and you're scum, you have EVERY reason to tell him to self vote. It wastes town's discussion time.

HoS: Copper

(if deadline wasn't so soon, this would be a vote).

[ReaperCharlie]

Ok, I will concede the point that those are pretty much his only two options at this juncture.

But that doesn't change the fact that it's still ridiculously scummy for you to ask him to self-vote.

[ReaperCharlie]

Just in time for me to have to V/LA. sry, I didn't anticipate it

[ReaperCharlie]

Ok, I have a few minutes to get on, but I'm still V/LA.

Warning:

Seriously condensed thoughts below.

No one killed, hmm... Cult game anyone?

I thought the same thing. I remember the mod being ambiguously unspecific about it.

I'm kind of suspicious about Nikanor. He says he forgot he replaced into this game, but how do we know he wasn't lurking until the hammer so he would not fuck up?

For now,

Vote:Nikanor

This post

is

shifty... but...

Scumdog dies today.

Vote:Cooldog

@McGriddle: Trying to press suspicion on someone who has not even posted? I'm not sure if you are even trying to sound townish. Seriously, just give up and tell us who your buddy(s) are.

...BUT. Mr. One-Two Punch over here pulls a nice one.

0. Ignores flip (????)
1. Player A is scum, k guiz?

Vote: Player A

2. Player B is scum (btw

tell us who ur buds r

kthx)
3. ROPE TIME! (doesn't matter which... iuno lol??)
4. ?????
5. PROFIT!

Second post could have been sarcastic, but "Seriously" != "SRSLY", sooo.. ???

Yeah.

Vote: nopoint

Why think of Cult when there could be conventional roles such as doctors, roleblocker, bulletproof vest? Not to mention why you would even consider NK speculation at this point.

Um.. flavor? And because it makes sense? Plus, how could we roleblock/doc/etc somebody when we're locked in cells?

Cooldog's speculation is valid. Yours however is full of holes.

a whole sh*tload of stuff

Nik's #298 rocks, but my Spidey sense is tingling because it makes so much sense.

Yo yo cooldog

Why did you jump to cult considering you've read the posts versus other far, far more likely outcomes?

What more likely outcomes?

---

TBM's #305 about McG's #264, + nopoint's highly erroneous #289, points to a nopoint+McG scumteam. /not-so-tinfoil

---

All of SpyreX's #310 can be answered by rule #1, which SpyreX even quoted. Relevant part bolded and underlined.

1.) The mafia in this game are attempting to break out of prison. The rumors going around are that they will do this by breaking out enough prisoners to start a riot. Prisoners will be told when they are freed but not by whom. When

all the prisoners are freed the riot will start

and the Battle of Alcatraz will begin and the jail will fall.

**"Later" edit:

Further SpyreX discombobulation in #318 will be answered by my question to the mod at the end of this post.

---

#311-#314 - Excellent. *rubs hands*

And #316 uberfails as a rebuttal.

---

Hmmm, skimming is over. Now it's Thoughts Time™...

Thought #1:

I get an elusive and nagging feeling that

'unlocked' != 'scum/cult'

is a scum/cult ploy to get me to not believe it somehow...

Thought #2:

Not seeing the case on cooldog, except for the "aiming for town cred via Exe's flip" angle. Honestly, kind of meh tho; he coulda had a town read.

Thought #3:

Looking back, SpyreX's #278 smacks suspiciously of some kinda post restriction/hammer obligation. Being mentioned in mod flavor = ???

Thought #4:

I am mildly ashamed/embarrassed that I didn't sheep SpyreX & Co. onto nopoint yesterday, esp. now that Exe has flipped townie.

Thought #5:

(still thinking about Thought #1, lol): This game doesn't make sense AT ALL, flavorwise, without there being SOME form of culting mechanic.

Semi- Conclusion:

I am very (90+%) suspicious that this 'unlocking' mechanic, coupled with the lack of kill last night, ON TOP of the mod flavor, means that this

is

some bastard kind of a cult game.

@mod: If this is NOT a cult game, what is the flavor explanation for 'unlocked' prisoners STILL wanting to try to hunt down the Crimson Angels? but ONLY until enough people are unlocked to start a riot, THEN they decide they want to work with the Crimson Angels?

k, not so condensed. But still.

[ReaperCharlie]

@Reaper: You think there's something wrong with thinking multiple people are scummy?

Nope. Not sure where you got that from.

Ignore flip: Why should I speculate?

The real question is: why NOT speculate? aka. scumhunt.

Vote A asks who B's partners are: These aren't conflicting reads. The scum mob oughtta be somewhere in [CoolDog, McGriddle, RC] don't you think?

Obviously not.

TBM's #305 about McG's #264, + nopoint's highly erroneous #289, points to a nopoint+McG scumteam. /not-so-tinfoil

Good catch!

Unvote.Vote:McGriddle.

How about you ride with me on this one and when the scum flip we can talk more about who's his partner, you or me.

Your lips are moving and politician-esque rhetoric (aka. noise) is coming out, but all I see is a self-preservation vote and an Appeal to Emotion.

Thought #2:

Not seeing the case on cooldog, except for the "aiming for town cred via Exe's flip" angle.

Honestly, kind of meh tho; he coulda had a town read

.

Thought #4:

I am mildly ashamed/embarrassed that I didn't sheep SpyreX & Co. onto nopoint yesterday,

esp. now that Exe has flipped townie

.

Though 2 + Thought 4 = Cognitive Dissonance.

That is not dissonant. They are not even related points. You're just trying to use buzzwords because it makes you feel smarter.

Observe:
2. The cooldog case is meh, because his Exe town read could have been genuine.
4. Due to Exe's town flip, I fervently wish that I'd have lynched you yesterday.

Explain how those are related points in any way.

[ReaperCharlie]

@Cooldog: Funny how you quoted my posts yet still say I have no reasoning for Exe scum.

@Exe: OH YOU SO COOL FOS'ING YOUR BUDDY.

Who do you think is scum now that Exe is town?

@nopoint voters: nopoint is just too easy guys. The speed of which the wagon built up worries me too. What more, look, we have exe, cooldog AND budja on that wagon.

Come on copper and spy, we have obvscum in Exe. Let's get this one done first, and then move on.

This also points to a possible nopoint+Katsuki scumpair.

[ReaperCharlie]

So @nopoint I would have to say that at least one of [you, McGriddle, Katsuki] are scum, and I am also getting bad vibes from SpyreX.

SpyreX, convince me you're town. It'd make my game a LOT easier if I knew I didn't have to worry about you stabbing me in the back.

I'd also like to know what Copper thinks about Exe flipping town. You haven't said anything about the flip yet you've posted twice since.

[ReaperCharlie]

A likely story.

[ReaperCharlie]

(jk, that seems to be a sitewide issue. lol)

[ReaperCharlie]

Why don't you comment on what's going on in the thread?

What do you think of the Exe flip other than "I told you so"?
What do you think of noipointinactingup, or McGriddle?
What do you think of SpyreX's hammer? Was it something a townie would do like that?
What do you think of my and Copper's cases on Exe? Were they completely worthless?

Basically:
Do you have anything useful to say? or are you just going to pretend like everything that needs to be said has already been said?

[ReaperCharlie]

RC, are you scum? I'm just wondering why you're throwing mud on me because what I said "makes too much sense".

Yeah. Why?

[ReaperCharlie]

Why don't you comment on what's going on in the thread?

What do you think of the Exe flip other than "I told you so"?

Exe was clearly town, no scum would respond under pressure like he did. And the town should be more carful this lynch

What do you think of noipointinactingup, or McGriddle?

nopoint, is nul, McG is slightly scummy, I wouldn't mind him being our lynch, but right now I'm for a kat lynch

What do you think of SpyreX's hammer? Was it something a townie would do like that?

considering the fact that exe was clearly pro town, no. I have him at a slightly scummy read (less the McG). He is scum hunting...

What do you think of my and Copper's cases on Exe? Were they completely worthless?

pretty much worthless

Basically: Do you have anything useful to say? or are you just going to pretend like everything that needs to be said has already been said?

I have stuff to say about lurker kat but he hasn't posted yet, I was tired that night and wasn't in the mood for posting

So if you thought Exe was "clearly town", k. Then what do you think nopoint is, besides "null"? And you think the cases on Exe were "pretty much worthless." What do you think of the nopoint case(s)?

And if you think Kat is scum, then why aren't you actively trying to lynch her? This whole "hey guiz, I have stuff to say, but not unless he posts first!!!" and "oh, I wasn't in the mood for posting n stuffz" is for lynchin', as Spy-chan would say...

Fence-sitting and not wanting to take a stance on the leading wagon? Check.
Putting the burden of YOUR usefulness on somebody else's usefulness? Check.

[ReaperCharlie]

Also:
Trying to be cooler than me and miserably failing (as everyone does)? Check.
When a chess king is in a position where it can be taken next move? Check.

[ReaperCharlie]

P.S. This thread needs MORE F@#&ING COWBELL.



Seriously. Post more, people.

[ReaperCharlie]

We have role information that ReaperCharlie is a member of the Crimson Angels.

We want to give as few other details as possible due to the unique mechanics of this game. The Warden is watching.VOTE: Reapercharlie

Explain this madness.

[ReaperCharlie]

So, um. I need to re-read the thread again for obvious reasons, but won't have time until this weekend. Hopefully stuff will come this weekend.

Apologies for lack of content, have not had much time for MS as of late. Will try and make time for a re-read tonight.

I realize that I have not posted much. I have not had the time for MS over the past while to play properly, so my activity level in sitewide has been very low.

Fuck just accidentally deleted my post on exe while trying to copy...

Checking in, will comment tomorrow.

In class right now. Will look at things later today.

...

Vote: RC

[ReaperCharlie]

Exactly. I have an inkling of why Copper thinks the way he does, but I'm not sure yet and I want him to talk a little more about it.

I'm just making fun of the fact that you haven't even read the thread, but are sheeping the last vote you saw on the page just to look like you're involved.

[ReaperCharlie]

Exactly. I have an inkling of why Copper thinks the way he does, but I'm not sure yet and I want him to talk a little more about it.

As in, it actually makes

sense

for him to get that vibe, if certain shenanigans were to happen last night.

(No, I'm not a miller, afaik).

[ReaperCharlie]

This is retarded. Though I was worried that something like this might happen due to what I will explain below, I totally didn't expect lurkers to show up randomly and put me at L-1 before I could at least get a feel for what the other roles in the game were (more on that below).

And since I still consider myself at L-1 for practical purposes, I will point out my crumb in #72.

I

rony (with a capital 'I') seems to be a trend here...

A

lso.

M

y suspicion is: whoever jumped off Exe's wagon "too easily" may be a scumbuddy (if they were on it to begin with).

A

lso:

C

ommon sense + common tells say that if another mafia is on nopoint's wagon, they probably did not START the wagon, so that means Copper is

probably

not scum.

O

rrr wait.

P

erhaps he IS scum and just started the wagon on a trifle to see if it would go somewhere, and then people liked it, and it led to a 'good' (fast) wagon, based on very little actual evidence.

Now first of all... I am not an ACTUAL cop; that would be impossible given the mechanics that I think are in place.

Disclaimer:

I am going to try to be as forthcoming as possible without getting myself modkilled for the second time in a week, for saying too much... so... here goes.

I am not a COP by definition so to speak, but I AM a similar informative role called an "

Informer

". My 'job' as an Informer is to observe other prisoners (from where, I cannot say), to feed info to the warden, and to keep things as they are. I really hope I don't get killed for saying this, but as an Informer, I am (shall we say) ... LESS RESTRICTED ... than other prisoners during Lockdown/Night Phase, because of my 'good behavior' in the past.

Basically, I am a rat, and benefiting from it.

My role flavor talks about me being (relatively) happy inside the pen, and I don't want the other prisoners to get unlocked and start a riot. Because that would mean an end to my "more-cushy-than-everyone-else" life, and I have crossed more than a few guys in this prison already and if certain people get unlocked, bad things may happen to me. Also; I am in the pen for strangling my wife, and I have nothing left on the outside as my children have been taken away from me. So, I want things to stay as they are, basically.

So as for what I did last night, I [we'll say, "observed"] Copper last night to find out [whatever it is I find out] because I was very suspicious of his seemingly strong case on Exe after Exe flipped town.

I am not affiliated with the Crimson Angels in any way, but I do have uhhhh... "more privileges", shall we say ... than the normal prisoner, which in turn facilitate my informing. These privileges [not saying what they are] might explain why Copper got the

idea

that I'm a Crimson Angel, but I have no clue how he could have gotten like, a MOD RESULT saying that I am one, simply because... I'm not. Like I said before, I'm not a miller as far as I know either, so I am under the impression that Copper took what he knew, weighed it around a bit with his other heads, and came to a

conclusion

that I was probably a bad guy. But I'm not a Crimson Angel, and I know I'm not 3rd party because I win with all the rest of the (locked) prisoners and there are no more threats to my prison life. So...

This is all I've got. I hope I have not said too much.

[ReaperCharlie]

I HAVE TO HOLD STUFF BACK OR ELSE I WILL BE MODKILLED.

[ReaperCharlie]

@ TBM: Yes, that is the reason I fear I'd be modkilled. I believe that I was quite clear about that in my post.

@ Copper: Still waiting on what 'role information' you have. Does my role explain what you think you know?

[ReaperCharlie]

P.S. I'll be back Monday. Please don't lynch me until then, if at all.

I am a useful town role and lynching me would be crippling/dumb without MUCH more discussion.

/blatant AtE

[ReaperCharlie]

Honestly, I can't say I'm extremely proud of the town win. Hindu and Kat both failed horrendously, and Cooldog was fairly obvious scum.

ReaperCharlie would've won if

he hadn't been the one to unlock our cell

I wouldn't have had a

broken

role that punished good scum play.

FTFY, Copper. ... Fate. You disappoint me.

If I haven't made it clear: this game was retarded.

So much potential. Wasted.