Mini #1004 - Popularity Mafia (Over)

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

Hinduragi (1) - VasudeVa
Charlie (1) - Parama

Not Voting (3) - Hinduragi, Charlie, vollkan

Deadline in one week

[Parama]

slowest game ever

[Charlie]

Slow it may be, but that doesn't change the fact that I firmly believe Parama to be mafia. If he flips mafia, his partner is most probably Vollkan.
VOTE: Parama
If I'm wrong then GG.

[vollkan]

LYLO paranoia.

*refusal to bus

Clearly, because LYLO is exactly the time to rush a lynch when there is more than one viable candidate.

If he doesn't answer my questions, though, he can expect my vote. It's bad enough that his reasoning on me is crap, and that he won't even try to defend it, but in the context of LYLO it is just ridiculous.

*threat that's incredibly easy to back out of[/quote]

Well, no - the point of the threat was to make him respond.

I'm not interested in answering your questions because we're dealing with two very different playstyles (like comparing apples and oranges). I'm playing by gut, Vollkan's playing by logic. There will be gaps in reasoning.

That's crap.

You have been presenting reasons for suspecting me. If I turn around and prove them wrong, you can't then say "No, wait, I'm playing by gut".

Who are you to dictate these sort of things?

*sigh* You said that the game had slowed to a point that small talk was okay. I resopnded by saying "And even if it had, that still wouldn't justify your ignoring my questions twice now."

If you think it justifies not answering questions, THEN PROVE ME WRONG!

Let me summarise this:

Charlie: [something stupid]
Vollkan: [why something stupid is wrong]
Charlie: STOP DICTATING!
Vollkan: Well why is it not wrong?
Charlie: I play by gut so I don't have to explain why I am right.

Sure thing. Simply read your posts D1 and compare it in terms of volume, to D2.

Again - I've been busier. You still haven't explained why it makes me more likely to be scum, other than yoru stupid conspriacy

Content-wise, is kinda subjective.

In short, you have no reasoning

Vollkan, answer this: Do you think Charlie is scum?

Yes. I've already said that

Vollkan, you mentioned you QT'd me but you want me to die today. Why QT me if you're going to attempt to kill me anyways?

In case we lynched scum that was not you.

[Charlie]

Truthfully, Vollkan scares me. He has a way with words that is close to be considered gifted.

[vollkan]

Truthfully, Vollkan scares me. He has a way with words that is close to be considered gifted.

This is Mafia, not Scrabble (unfortunately )

[Parama]

Slow it may be, but that doesn't change the fact that I firmly believe Parama to be mafia. If he flips mafia, his partner is most probably Vollkan.
VOTE: Parama
If I'm wrong then GG.

This is something Charlie should've done a week ago if he wanted anybody to believe this wasn't scum just trying to push a last-minute mislynch. He hasn't even been saying anything about me recently and all of the sudden he votes me after having an argument with vollkan. LOL.

[Charlie]

Hey, I should be the one cracking the (mostly lame) jokes in this game. I'm serious!

[Hinduragi]

Slow it may be, but that doesn't change the fact that I firmly believe Parama to be mafia. If he flips mafia, his partner is most probably Vollkan.

Actually, I think it'd be VV.

In case we lynched scum that was not you.

But why wouldn't you want to QT one of your town reads?

[vollkan]

But why wouldn't you want to QT one of your town reads?

I think QTs are better used for interrogating people you suspect and potentially getting new info than confirming what is largely already known from thread with a town read

[Charlie]

That's the idea when I choose you last Night to start a QT with. I'm not really looking forward to our potential discussion N6. You're intimidating.

[vollkan]

That's the idea when I choose you last Night to start a QT with. I'm not really looking forward to our potential discussion N6. You're intimidating.

I will try to eschew prolixity so as to avoid obfuscating you.

[Hinduragi]

But why wouldn't you want to QT one of your town reads?

I think QTs are better used for interrogating people you suspect and potentially getting new info than confirming what is largely already known from thread with a town read

You thought Xite to be one of your top suspects at the time you QT'd him?

[Hinduragi]

EBWOP: Nvm that, after an ISO, I see we covered those points yesterday.

[Hinduragi]

Sigh, I wanted to say Parama was town from that AtE post but the rest of his play doesn't describe him as the type of player to use AtE. I also think vollkan is town. If he isn't, well, his title is well-deserved. Charlie, I know he seems too good to be true, but he has to be town in some games, even if he is unreadable(for me, at least).

Vote: Parama

Hopefully there's no scum quickhammer on this. As of now, though, I am willing to risk losing this game if Parama is town. His play has failed. I tried to get a read on him from our QT but he has ignored it for 2 nights now. He's also someone my predecessor was looking at.

[vollkan]

But why wouldn't you want to QT one of your town reads?

I think QTs are better used for interrogating people you suspect and potentially getting new info than confirming what is largely already known from thread with a town read

You thought Xite to be one of your top suspects at the time you QT'd him?

Yup:

I had suspicion of him given his behaviour in relation to my meta defence and his attitude toward NL.

[VasudeVa]

Vote: Parama

Finally.

[vollkan]

Was that a scum hammer VV?

[VasudeVa]

It's a secret~

[Charlie]

Finger of suspicion: VV

[LlamaFluff]

End of Period Vote Count

Parama (3) – Charlie, Hinduragi, VasudeVa
Charlie (1) – Parama

Not Voting (1) – vollkan

…**kzzt**

I must say I must say, good job you guys. Also that I never doubted you in your glorious conquest. What a great way to send your opposition packing to, by sending him litereally packing back to his homeland. I can only hope he is more popular over there then he was over here.

Oh also, Hinduragi and vollkan, im sorry but you can no longer go here.

Have a nice day

…**kzzzt**

Parama – The Foreign Exchange Student – Vanilla Student – Expelled Period Six
Vollkan – The Benchwarmer – Vanilla Student – Expelled in the Endgame
Hinduragi – The Honors Student – Vanilla Student – Expelled in the Endgame

Which of course means

Charlie – The Class Clown – Disgruntled Student – Survived
VasudeVa – The Class President – Disgruntled Student – Survived

I will leave it up to mafia to post their quicktopic, and all players to post their neighbor topics. I will only reveal who was able to talk to who.

Actions coming up soon

[LlamaFluff]

~Night 1~

Max talks with Twomz
PranaDevil talks with Twomz
VasudeVa talks with Andrius
Charlie kills PranaDevil, does not talk
vollkan talks with vezok
sando [DEAD]
vezok talks with parama
Hinduragi talks with xite
Andrius talks with parama
Parama talks with Xite
Xite is out of talkable players

-Total Topics-
Max - 1
PranaDevil - 1 [DEAD]
VasudeVa - 1
Charlie - 0 (+1 missed)
vollkan - 1
sando - 0 [DEAD]
vezok - 2
Twomz - 3
Hinduragi - 1
Andrius - 2
Parama - 3
Xite - 2

~Night 2~
Max talks with vollkan
PranaDevil [DEAD]
VaudeVa talks with xite, kills max
Charlie talks with Hinduragi
vollkan does not sumbit
sando [DEAD]
vezok [DEAD]
Twomz talks with Andrius
Hinduragi talks with Andrius
Andruis talks with xite
Parama is out of talkable players
Xite is out of talkable players

-Topics-
Max - 2 [DEAD]
PranaDevil - 1 [DEAD]
VasudeVa - 2
Charlie - 1 (+1 missed)
vollkan - 1 (+1 missed)
sando - 0 [DEAD]
vezok - 2 [DEAD]
Twomz - 4
Hinduragi - 3
Andrius - 5
Parama - 3
Xite - 4

~Night 3~
Max - [DEAD]
PranaDevil - [DEAD]
VasudeVa - no action recieved
Charlie - no action recieved
vollkan - no action recieved
sando - [DEAD]
vezok - [DEAD]
Twomz - talk xite
Hinduragi - talk parama
Andrius - is out of talkable people
Parama - is out of talkable people
Xite - is out of talkable people

-Topics-

Max - 2 [DEAD]
PranaDevil - 1 [DEAD]
VasudeVa - 2 (+1 missed)
Charlie - 1 (+2 missed)
vollkan - 1 (+2 missed)
sando - 0 [DEAD]
vezok - 2 [DEAD]
Twomz - 5
Hinduragi - 4
Andrius - 5
Parama - 4
Xite - 5

~Night 4~

Max - [DEAD]
PranaDevil - [DEAD]
VasudeVa - talk with vollkan, kill xite
Charlie - talk with xite
vollkan - talk with xite
sando - [DEAD]
vezok - [DEAD]
Twomz - talk with Hinduragi
Hinduragi - is out of talkable people
Parama - is out of talkable people
Xite - is out of talkable people

-Topics-

Max - 2 [DEAD]
PranaDevil - 1 [DEAD]
VasudeVa - 3 (+1 missed)
Charlie - 2 (+2 missed)
vollkan - 2 (+2 missed)
sando - 0 [DEAD]
vezok - 2 [DEAD]
Twomz - 6
Hinduragi - 5
Andrius - 5
Parama - 4
Xite - 7

~Night 5~

Max - [DEAD]
PranaDevil - [DEAD]
VasudeVa - talks with Parama, kills Andirus
Charlie - talks with vollkan
vollkan - talks with Hinduragi
sando - [DEAD]
vezok - [DEAD]
Twomz - [DEAD]
Hinduragi - is out of talkable people
Andrius - is out of talkable people
Parama - is out of talkable people
Xite - [DEAD]

-Topics-

Max - 2 [DEAD]
PranaDevil - 1 [DEAD]
VasudeVa - 4 (+1 missed)
Charlie - 3 (+2 missed)
vollkan - 4 (+2 missed)
sando - 0 [DEAD]
vezok - 2 [DEAD]
Twomz - 6 [DEAD]
Hinduragi - 6
Andrius - 5
Parama - 5
Xite - 7 [DEAD]

[LlamaFluff]

This game was a modification on a 10:2 mountainous setup, which was an attempt to balance it up a bit by allowing town to start talking with their town reads at night. I do not believe location of scum have a massive sway on this game, but a RNG told me to put them at 3 and 4 in this game. The primary difference is the lower one is ranked, the more they will be talked to as the game progresses. If they are good manipulators, they can heavily benifit from it. At high levels, they end up with next to no people to talk with.

I am interested to know what people think of this setup being ran as an open setup, which is my plan for it. I will be rerunning this setup in the near future with a different theme to go along with it, just as an open setup.

For the game, I thought it ended up being fairly close. It looked like the town may have been able to pull it out at the end since it seemed like vollkan was nearing a charlie vote, but scum had a strong handle on the game throughout most of it. Not sure if those slots needed to be replaced quite a few times had anything to do with it or not.

[Hinduragi]

...Fuck, I totally was going VV but Charlie. I thought Parama was flailing at 1656 since it looked to me like Charlie was just looking at another potential suspect. Charlie's slot needing a replacement did kill the reads on them for the end of D1 and some of D2 but part of the reason I called him town was my nicol QT. When VV resorted to ad hom on me a.k.a. calling me black, I was pretty sure he was scum. Sigh, good game scum. My town play was poor this game because I was experimenting with those bad cases in order to get town reads, which ultimately failed. I was the main liability to town, seeing as all of them besides me wanted me lynched come LyLo. Plus I was the sole town vote on that mislynch. -_- Worst town game I've had, but I'll probably never be using this type of play again. My God, this was a big mistake on my part.

[Parama]

why didn't you guys lynch Charlie

<_<