Newbie 1010 (Game Over)

[nevermind]

Um, i think there's still a chance that Razgriz is falling for a subconscious "OMGUS mindset", as a newbie town.
But I think he could also be trying to WIFOM us as scum, by threatening to self-hammer, but I think the most plausible scenario is that he's scum, and claiming a 100% scum read as a last resort.
So yeah I think if no one has anything important to say, someone should just hammer.

Razgriz: If you are town, can you, as your probable-last action, summarize your entire case on Civil Scum, so that your 100% scum read on him might be shared by others, and you can get him lynched? (I'm assuming that's what you aim to do, but simply repeating "He's a mafia goon." isn't convincing me)

[Civil Scum]

Um, i think there's still a chance that Razgriz is falling for a subconscious "OMGUS mindset", as a newbie town.

It -could- be that, but that he's lied about it everytime makes me think otherwise.

So yeah I think if no one has anything important to say, someone should just hammer.

Agreed


I swears that I am not scum with Raz. Not a chance.

[silverbullet999]

Alright well here's what I'm gonna say. I'll hammer in 3 days from today (unless convinced otherwise). I think this gives raz ample time to develop a case against civil. Catterpie can throw her thoughts in and well yeah. So by October 9th... this day should be ended.

[Catterpillar]

I'd also be willing to hammer once raz provides his case.

[Razgriz]

There is one problem, I am about to leave for hockey, and I am

V/LA until the 10th

cause of fall break

[silverbullet999]

... alright can we all agree to wait til the 13th? basically the game will die down but I really don't see any rush.

[Catterpillar]

I don't want to lynch him without hearing his case so I can agree to that.

[Civil Scum]

He doesn't really have a case, or anything to base his 100% suspicion off of, really. That has been part of my point.

What makes you think he's going to be able to do this after not doing it for a month.

[Catterpillar]

He doesn't really have a case, or anything to base his 100% suspicion off of, really. That has been part of my point.

What makes you think he's going to be able to do this after not doing it for a month.

But it won't hurt to hear it.

[Yoenit]

... alright can we all agree to wait til the 13th? basically the game will die down but I really don't see any rush.

Fine with me. Razgriz certainly seems the best lynch at this point.

He doesn't really have a case, or anything to base his 100% suspicion off of, really. That has been part of my point.

What makes you think he's going to be able to do this after not doing it for a month.

So you would rather lynch him right away? That reminds me of your posts against Olinea at the end:

Nevermind esta lurkivo! Muchos Grandes!

Neil went to the bathroom when the check came!

Why the fuck are you getting so angry about this

-I might have misread a tone into your post.

-I'm frustrated that Olinea hasn't been lynched.

-Your original quote was addressed to me (or phrased that way, anways (ie- "

Your

______is making Me)), so coupled with a "You're not the only player here asshole"-reading, I didn't like the comment.

-Also I'm frustrated that Olinea hasn't been lynched yet.

-Also I'm frustrated that Olinea hasn't been lynched yet.

-Also I'm frustrated that Olinea hasn't been lynched yet.

-

And we all remember how that turned out. I really hope for you Razgriz is scum, for you are the obvious lynch target tomorrow if he is not.

[neil1113]

So.... >_>

[Civil Scum]

and I am V/LA until the 10th cause of fall break

Waiting to hear his case on me is probably not going to be worth it.

I really hope for you Razgriz is scum, for you are the obvious lynch target tomorrow if he is not.

Aye, I hope for the town's sake too...
But maybe we'll just see about this second part.

[nevermind]

Waiting to hear his case on me is probably not going to be worth it.

I disagree, when would a longer day be not as good? (I'm assuming you just want to lynch him now)

[Catterpillar]

and I am V/LA until the 10th cause of fall break

Waiting to hear his case on me is probably not going to be worth it.

Yes because waiting a one whole day more is going to be so hard. Yesterday proved that impatience is not a good enough reason to lynch someone.

[Civil Scum]

I mean, if that's what we are "really" waiting for (I know it's what Catterpillar is waiting for), then that's okay.

But I believe I'm accurate in predicting that it's going to be more "these are times which Civil manipulated the town." Which is not really a case, and I've already offered my opinion on that.

Cat: Someone being really scummy is enough to lynch someone, right Cat? Must I dig up your quote, so soon after you made it??
You voted Olinea. Were you voting out of impatience? Why were you voting Olinea again?

[Civil Scum]

I thought your pushing Olinea so hard was townish because you were so certain that he was scum and then he wasn't. There were other people that could easily have been lynched day one yet you were

pushing Oli who was scummy as all hell even though he wasn't scum

when there were easier mislynches to steer the town towards if you had chosen to

but you didn't because Oli was the scummiest person at the time

thus you get some town points.

Uh-oh

Yesterday proved that impatience is not a good enough reason to lynch someone.

Yikes!

I'd also be willing to hammer once raz provides his case.

So you agree that it's kinda pointless. So, then, what's the point?

Your actions are contradicting your words.

[Civil Scum]

...pushing Oli who was scummy as all hell even though he wasn't scum when there were easier mislynches to steer the town towards

This comment doesn't seem very well-thought out. What mis;ynch could be easier than that?

[neil1113]

...pushing Oli who was scummy as all hell even though he wasn't scum when there were easier mislynches to steer the town towards

This comment doesn't seem very well-thought out. What mis;ynch could be easier than that?

I find it strangely weird that nobody has responded to this....

[Civil Scum]

Mod: any prods in order?

unvote

I have something I wanted to get some opinions on before a lynch. I think it might be better for the cop to claim now.

[silverbullet999]

I have something I wanted to get some opinions on before a lynch. I think it might be better for the cop to claim now.

Wait.. what?!
How would a cop claim day 2 help us at all?

[bird1111]

Prodding Yoenit and Razgriz.

[Civil Scum]

I might be wrong, I don't know.

And only if they don't have a scum-investigation on Razgriz. Cause then it doesn't matter, we won't be at Ly-Lo tomorrow.

In the event that Razgriz amazingly flips town, I was just thinking initially, that now the Doc is dead, the mafia know whether or not there is a cop (that is a good position for them, very good), and all they'd have to do is have bread-crumbed a little and claim D-3. If we are Ly-lo tomorrow, then any cop claim is going to be 100% unverifiable, almost to the point of uselessness. Whereas, we would lock the scum into trying to claim it now, if they do intend to. Also, if the real cop claims, we could end up with 1 verified townie in Ly-lo, instead of just choosing whether or not to believe the cop claim. It increases our chance of getting a counter-claim on scum who would try it, and could lead to a verified townie.

??

[silverbullet999]

interesting proposal... interesting indeed.

[Civil Scum]

I thought about aksing other SE's or IC's, but the game's on-going, so it probably wouldn't be right. I'm completely open for debate. The general opinion of our town would suffice for me. I also don't want to try and make this happen, if it is actually a terrible idea, and only seems to have benefits.

I was recently burned by scums who decided there was no cop (by other reasoning besides set-up knowledge, it was pretty slick), so maybe I'm over-worried about it.

[nevermind]

Civil, that makes sense.
But the uselessness of a day-3 cop claim still needs to be confirmed, since I think it actually depends more on the cop's choice in investigations than the validity of the claim.