Mini 1064 - Charlie's Town (Game Over!)

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/cuddle..

I mean... /confirm <3

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Me and Recky aren't a schitzo hydra either <<

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Yeah, if you'd like any proof, just go find any of our ongoing games.
We play as one <3

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Another heads up - the two members of this hydra will be spending a weekend together in Montreal 10/15-10/19, so expect little activity during those times.

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Vote: Casus Belli

There can only be one!

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Scum team to the rescue with a counterwagon!

Is this serious?

Is this?

Unvote; Vote: masfloohinev

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We'll be catching up on the walls o' text at some point today/tomorrow (whenever we can sync our schedules up).

Should probably note - half of this hydra will be

V/LA from Friday through Monday

so the other half probably won't be posting much during that time.

@SpyreX: The other half of this hydra won't let me CAPS LAWK ALLIANCE with you, but you should just know up front that we're town, k?

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Awesomely informative post coming from us later this evening.
Promise!

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First off,

UNVOTE

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Your avatar is incredibly unlikeable, though, masnlfllooovz.

Richard is scum, though, for this post. You don't declare the end of the RVS; you don't announce that you're voting srs now; you don't dick around like so.
Casus Belli...welcome to the side of the good hydras, though. Post 76 made us happy - another non-schizo hydra! Hooray! Also, your questioning of masfloooo's post is awesome.
SpyreX, YOU DIDN'T RESPOND TO OUR POST. </3 Continue your questioning of FakeGod, though, it's making us happy.
We agree with q21's #98 on jmurph - excellent catch with the contradictions.

We kinda feel bad for missing all the excitement. Now we're just sitting out here watching everyone bicker and trying to figure out which of you is town and which is scum.
FOR THE RECORD if you'd like to question us on something specifically, please link to or quote the post in question because otherwise it's going to be a headache for everyone, and we don't want that, do we?

Vote: Richard

We already know who is scumbuddies are, too. Start squirming
Also of note: this hydra will be fairly inactive from Fri-Mon. Just a heads up.

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Thanks for that, Reckamonic. Haven't had a good laugh in a while. Which one of you came up with that act?

_Sub

strike

, it's Richard. Not GHP.

We're a double act.

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Vote: Spyrex

because his play thus far does not read as town. This is not something I am likely to explain further.

And this is why we want to lynch your anti-town ass today.

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Casus Belli is very town. Anyone attacking him from here on out is on our radar.

Including you, CES. There is no reasoning given for you to "not buy" Casus Belli's read on Richard.

Also, maflylhsldufnoo is ignoring Richard. Isn't it cute how he's trying not to bus his scumbuddy? d'awwwww.

Our vote stands.

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We're still V/LA, but we just had to pop in to note that Richard is retarded for not claiming cop.
What the hell, man?

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Today is catchup day!
Post coming later.

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First off, Substrike, get off your high horse because that breadcrumb was not obvious at all, so stop. We've finally agreed with Cogito Ergo Sum on one thing: FakeGod's 166 is really badposting. Also, his insistence in post 180 that we should lynch from the Richard wagon is very bad. It's not like the people on the wagon knew that they were lynching a cop, and the scum could've VERY easily stayed off the wagon and let town lynch town.

Speaking of town on town, Cogito & Casus are both town, so we should just move on past that argument. masfloohinev's 195 is terribad: "Oh hey I suspect the person who hammered and I'm also going back on a town read so I don't back myself into a corner here". Furthermore, his questioning on CES, FakeGod, nachomamma, and Substrike in 196 feels incredibly fluffy, and not in a good way. We don't believe that he actually thinks SpyreX is scum, nor do we think he actually suspects Shotty right now.

ALSO SPYREX, WE HAVE FULL HYDRA CLEARANCE TO INITIATE ALL CAPS LAWK ALLIANCE ACTIVITIES. LET'S RUN THIS BITCH WHOOOOOOOOOOO

Oh haha FakeGod's vote on SpyreX is cute.

The scumteam consists of: masfloohinev, FakeGod, and someone else. Still trying to figure out who that other person is. Could be any of Substrike, Nachomamma8, and Shotty, but they're hardly posting enough for us to get good reads.

Vote: FakeGod

THANKIES~!

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@mashfl;lkj;ievn: Regarding your 224. Suspecting SpyreX for hammering isn't scummy in and of itself - it's just opportunistic. And reads can change, yes, but your read changed for almost no reason whatsoever. It was just "Uh, yeah, I suspect him, I'll explain later".

Shotty's 225 is just bad. OMGUS much? Not to mention, Shotty is acting like the way SpyreX is playing is somehow vastly different from his town meta. Spoiler alert: it isn't. To answer your question: we thought mash;lkj;lkncv;ljk was his buddy.

Oh, and mask;jk;in's vote on FakeGod is eerily similar to his suspicions on SpyreX and Shotty in 195. He pops up, cast suspicion, then just goes "Hey I'll explain later".

And now, for Reckamonic's problems with mar;lkja's giant post of fail!

He wants FakeGod to show games where he saw a counterbandwagon rise against scum. Is this a serious request? Because this is a pretty fucking common thing, and we don't think we need to see any at-length examples for most of us here to agree that this happens often. Oh, and his 'scumslip' that he found on FakeGod is weak - people include themselves in the numbers all the time. Had he said 2/6 instead of 2/7, you'd be saying he's scum for exactly the opposite reason.

We're not voting for SpyreX today.

Also, Nacho, do something.

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Honestly, we still find FakeGod scummy, but masi.kn2-sz's attack on him was really forced. We'd love to believe we just caught a really bad bussing attempt that easily...but it seems TOO easy.

As long as one of them dies, we're fine.

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So, uh, we read the page. Very disappointing.

Casus Belli's point on Shotty opened our eyes a bit, and mashnvielfoo's points against FakeGod are quite convincing. We support a Shotty lynch or a FakeGod lynch first, with a mashnvilei381nv lynch at a distant third. Just because he makes good points doesn't mean he's not bussing. He's actually very good at it.

Nacho, why aren't we on your list?

Vote: Shotty

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NOTHING. IS. HAPPENING. IN. THIS. GAME.

FakeGod needs rope. His insistence that claiming at L-1 gives the scum a chance to draw out a PR claim is sensationalism - it's

always

worth trading one dead townie for one dead scum. And how is L-1 "dangerous", exactly?

mas showed up to aid FakeGod though. "Yeah! He should claim now," shouts the overeager scumbuddy, anxious to help his partner look less like caught scum.

Reckamonic, did you intend to express an above average level of expression with this ‪post?‬

Richard was our strongest scumread, if that's what you mean.

SpyreX is town and anyone who wants to lynch him needs to seriously rethink their views or self-vote.

Oh my god, masfloo's 312 is eye-poppingly scummy. Holy shitballs there's no way he's not scum. FakeGod joining the wagon makes us worried…but honestly, that post was so bad, it's hard to not vote.

THERE HAS TO BE AT LEAST ONE SCUM AMONG FAKEGOD, SHOTTY, AND MASS FLU. THERE'S POSSIBLY TWO, AND POSSIBLY HOLY SHIT ALL THREE.

Substrike22 totally sums up our thoughts on the matter in 320, complete with non-caps lock rage for those of you with sensitive eyes.

Unvote; Vote: mass flu

^ scum.

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We posted on Thursday, don't get your panties in a wad.
We'll be able to get a post up tomorrow night or Monday afternoon, depending on when we can sync up. Reck is out of town and has to drive back to college tomorrow night, so it just depends. We'll try to make it late Sunday night/Monday morning.

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We'll get a post up sometime tonight. We're currently having a disagreement on something regarding the game that we need to straighten out so we're on the same page.

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After discussing together, we have settled to

Vote: FakeGod

attaboy, scummy machine of doom!

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Well, now I definitely have no second thoughts about this

Vote: Mashflooskjvnpasdibg

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WHY
THE FUCK
ARE WE MASSCLAIMING
ON DAY FUCKING TWO

no. We are not for this.
And if this HAS to happen, we'd like someone to popcorn to us fairly early.

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K.

We are a doctor.
Not revealing night choices.

We'd like Substrike to claim next.

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Shut the fuck up, we have our reasons.

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Is that all the claims?
It can't be.

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Okay, here's the thing: we forgot to send in a protection last night.
So, however the kill got stopped, it wasn't us.

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Can someone put together a full claim list?

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Occam's Razor states that scum probably didn't no kill. Nacho is more than likely the JOAT who either blocked someone or protected someone last night. If there was a block, he needs to claim who. If there was a protection, he doesn't have to do that today.

The obvious solution to this problem is to lynch mas. If he flips VT, CB lied and we deal with them tomorrow. If he flips scum or something other than VT, then CB is pretty much confirmed town unless this is all some elaborate scum rouse superbus.

We honestly don't see how tracker/cop/JOAT/doc can possibly be balanced…but JOAT is the only other explanation for the lack of kill since we didn't protect anyone. The cop is already flipped. And we don't see why the tracker would claim what he did against a VT.

Here's what we think: lynch mas today. If CB is right, then he needs to track either us or the JOAT overnight and tell us where we went tomorrow. If he's correct, then we'll buy the claim not being some kind of bus attempt. This is the only way we'll be able to accept there being this many town PRs unless we start getting some ridiculous scumflips.

There

are

a lot of VT claims. If 3 of the VT claims are scum PRs, cop/doc/JOAT/tracker could be balanced. But it's a long shot.

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If this is four person scumteam, we will shit all over Charlie.
Or at least, Reck will. Dram will be mildly displeased.

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NACHO:

Did you use an ability last night that would explain the lack of a kill?

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So Nacho was targeted for the kill last night, and LlamaFluff is town. Usually, if the person hidden behind is scum, the hider dies, correct?

So, this means in the town category, we've got: Nacho, LlamaFluff, us, and one of CB/mas.

This leaves... one of CB/mas, jmurph, CES, SpyreX, and Substrike. With ZERO SCUM KILLED, this gives us a 60% chance of hitting scum among those five. With a CB/mas lynch, this narrows the pool down to four. If Nacho happens to have a vig shot, this narrows the pool down to three.

Unless scum no-killed last night, I don't foresee town losing this game.

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CES, with all of us alive and Mas claiming townie and being tracked to llama, that would make him the roleblocker.

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MORE MAS VOTES.
NOW.

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CES is voting Mass, btw

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No.
We should not discuss night actions.
We should assume that the players are intelligent and can make good decisions.

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God dammit.
We protected Nachomamma. Must've been the roleblocker.

Is there any reason NOT to lynch CB today?

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But none of Nacho's one-shot abilities makes sense to 'confirm' our alignments as the same. Maybe he had a hunch, but... unless there's a redirector,

CB clearly lied

. I'd like to have CB show up and report from last night before we move any further though. Honestly, we wanna vote jmurph and maybe SpyreX right now for jumping on the bandwagon quickly without discussion.

The only way CB is town is if mafia have some kind of redirector/bus driver. CB's report from last night will tell us more.

CB: Who did you target and who did they visit last night?

I'm actually tempted to believe him here, because something smells funny here.

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Substrike: why does Nacho being confirmed town make his suspicions/thoughts any more legitimate?

Spoiler alert, it doesn't.

And...now that you mention it...we never got full results from every night from CB, did we?

CB. FULL CLAIM. IN YOUR NEXT POST.

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I believe we saved CB N1.

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Reck & Dram: "BAH!"

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The setup had a cop/cod combo

cods are like jesters. Don't put them in setups unless it's a bastard mod

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Scum QT?