Glork wrote:
Srsly, though, much of the pressure on Wraith looks scum-driven. There are plenty of other, better candidates for lynch. Like M.E.
Despite the fact that I put the first vote on, I agree. I meant to just put pressure on to see his response, and while I don't like the response too much, I am not at all convinced this is a scum response. I don't think this play is doing him any favors, but I don't think it's necessarily scummy.
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Zwet wrote:I'm a miller because apparently the darkening shadow of Mordor and Isengard has caused man and dwarf to be too wary of elvenkind
That would be extremely against the actual flavor and lore of LotR, and while the game certainly changes the events of the book, I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that the game would go so against the lore. Especially since, in LotR it is the elves who are distrusting of other races and the fact that it was elves who were murdered would tend to make elves even more distrustful of the outsiders they've let in, not the other way around.
Glork wrote:Actually.... what do people think about doing some kind of partial massclaim, like a raceclaim?
No. This is my third time playing in a LotR flavored mafia and in both previous games there were mechanics involving scum trying to get the ring from Frodo, and we've already had an SK we have reason to believe is Gollum, a character notorious for his desire for the ring - his precious. Claiming races is a super bad idea.
Also, fakeclaiming Arwen wouldn't really be that risky. She's minor enough I could easily see her not being in the game.
I have fakeclaimed Arwen before, that's for sure.
I'm not sure what Zwet is up to and it doesn't seem likely that we're going to get an explanation out of him at this point, but I'm not sure about voting him. I'm gonna go with my gut on this one and ... not.
I really don't like a couple things about Glork, though:
- The bandwagon against ME seems trumped up on very flimsy evidence and I don't like how he pushed it, nor do I like how much support it got so easily. I've already given my thoughts on why scum might fake claim Gandalf and so I find it interesting that Glork suddenly began pushing his ME wagon harder when ME showed suspicion of gandalf the player after the fake claim, and that it gained support really quickly after that too.
- I don't like the raceclaim suggestion. There are a ton of reasons not to want a race claim, some of which have been brought up and even someone who's only read the books or seen the movie once could guess that there's one character who it is best is not revealed, since they are likely to be very powerful and important, and raceclaiming would narrow it down considerably. Conveniently, Glork never claimed his familiarity with flavor so he can probably just say he didn't know.
Vote: Glork
Can you explain to me why you are so bound and determined that ME is scum? Is there anything besides the fact that he was suspect of gandalf's fakeclaim?
Not reading now.
