The Lord of the Rings Mafia - GAME OVER (KABOOM)

[Wraith]

No, he's a cool character, he just wasn't necessary to the larger plot, as the movies showed.

Is this an LOTR convention or a mafia game, guys?

[gandalf5166]

Both, obv.

[Katsuki]

Gandalf
I do not like how you are using trying to explain your claim as a "I do it all the time and hence null tell". I have seen you claim very early before as scum, and you trying to say that "HEY LOOK GUYZ I DO DIS AS TOWN TOO!!" gives me bad vibes.

My gut still says VV, but gandalf is quickly becoming a close second.

NOTE ON ZWET: HE IS BEST LEFT ALONE AND IGNORED. HONESTLY. YOU LOSE BRAIN CELLS SEEING THAT GUY PLAY. I think half the castlevania players/mods are here and know exactly what I am talking about.

[gandalf5166]

But I didn't ACTUALLY claim. I joke-claimed.

[Katsuki]

DO I GAVE A FUCK?
NO.

YOU OFTEN ACT SILLY WITH CLAIMS THE FIRST FEW PAGES TO LAY DOWN A FOUNDATION THAT ALLOWS YOU TO ACT ALOOF/VI DEEP INTO GAMES.
Hell I've seen you real-claim first few pages before. Really, to me, your claiming is basically along the lines of someone who draws a ton of attention at first, and then slowly decreases as your act gets old.

THE FACT THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU PULL THIS SHIT AS TOWN TOO GIVES MY GUT FEELINGS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO TOWN-JUSTIFY YOUR ACTIONS.

/end semi-rant. But I do honestly suspect you.

[LimMePls]

Can we please stop with the claims already? I don't see the purpose of claiming when the day just started today and no one is in any danger of being lynched. Maybe I can see why zwetchenwasser claimed as it makes sense for a miller to claim very early in the game, but gandalf5166 had absolutely no reason to claim this early whatsoever. None of the votes on him were actually serious and no one expressed intentions on voting him. Let's look at gandalf5166's claim:

- He's Gandalf with flavor saying that he's so awesome that no one could believe he's scum.
- After declaring that, he becomes a Tree Stump with a vote and a JOAT.
- He can do any actions but can only use three actions per Night.
- Said that disadvantage to saying Gandalf is that he has to type the word out.
- Mason with Gwaihir who is his permanent bodyguard until Gandalf claims and he becomes a jailkeeper afterwards, but that Gwaihir cannot claim.

Conclusion: This claim is so unrealistic it hurts, even by a Large Theme standard. My response to his claim:

- I have limited knowledge of the series yet people with half a brain should be smart enough to realize that the flavor definently doesn't look near believeable.
- The point of a Tree Stump is that they live, but lose their votes. A Tree Stump being able to keep his vote after stumping himself doesn't make any sense to me.
- There is no way in hell that he could be able to perform any sorts of actions in here. Gandalf is not God. I also find being able to use three Night Actions per Night incredibly unlikely.
- If your role is that powerful, then I can't see the disadvantage of claiming being that small.
- Once again, this makes no sense to me. You claim an incredibly powerful role yet the disadvantage to claiming is that you have to type out his name. Yet your suppose mason partner is not allowed to claim. Even if you claimed that both were at equal power (Which I've already said doesn't make sense), I still can't see that part being true.

And another thing, if your role is litterally that powerful, then unless every other townie were a Vanilla Townie, this game would be completely broken in favor of the town, not to menton scums would have to be very very strong as well.

I can't see this possibly being a town role, so therefore, I think you are scum.

Unvote, Vote: gandalf5166

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Katsuki's #40 is a lot of random nonsense that doesn't add anything to the game. I don't see any purpose on how it can help town in any shape or form.

This post is terrible. Its not a serious claim, how can anyone who is actually paying attention believe he was being serious?

[Katsuki]

This post is terrible. Its not a serious claim, how can anyone who is actually paying attention believe he was being serious?

This is the problem with gandalf. He claims so that people don't pay attention to him later on in the game... and can just reason any slips off as a matter of 'VI-ness'

[gandalf5166]

I DO NOT.

[Katsuki]

I DO NOT.

O RLY NAO

[LimMePls]

STOP THE BACK AND FORTH "U NO U"! If you are town it is really distracting and needs to stop.

[VasudeVa]

HEY FORMER SCUMBUDDIES. I CAN CAPSLOCK TOO. CASTLEVANIA MAFIA IN DA HAUZZ.

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@LMP: Finish this sentence for me. Because ME's post is terrible, ME is ___.

@Katsuki: Substantiate your gut call: Why am I scum? Have you fo srs compressed my whole scumgame and found it 3 pages in? Stop spreading the WIFOM around, it's bad for Town.

[rewq455]

But I didn't ACTUALLY claim. I joke-claimed.

I agree that it was probably a joke.

Even if you were to try and analyze it, scum would not have claimed this huge of a power role, because Gandalf is such a major character in the LOTR series, I would be surprised if he were not in this game.

[Katsuki]

@VV: We shall see. I have seen town you, granted I did not play.

You just give me scummy vibes. And I should know scum you well enough = =

[Glork]

I would say it mostly has to do with ME being scum.

If you honestly think we're scum, we like to hear reasons why. Same question to inHamshallibe,

I would say it mostly has to do with the words you have posted.

[Glork]

BTW, inHim's post is super++.

[Glork]

EBOWP: Although Wraith deserves an honorable mention on the Scum List.

[CallMeLiam]

Day 1 Vote Count 02

gandalf5166

- 4 - Locke Lamora, zwetschenwasser, MemoriaEsponia, Mariyta

zwetschenwasser

- 3 - jenniwren, Cogito Ergo Sum, LynchMePls

LynchMePls

- 1 - Wraith

Glork

- 1 - molestargazer

Haylen

- 1 - Haylen

Mariyta

- 1 - bv310

Katsuki

- 1 - VasudeVa

Wraith

- 1 - Katy

Locke Lamora

- 1 - rewq455

Drippereth

- 1 - SlySly

MemoriaEsporia

- 1 - Glork

SlySly

- 1 - Edge

WeirdRa

- 1 - SpyreX

VasudeVa

- 2 - Katsuki, inHimshallibe

Not Voting

- 5 - WeirdRa, Nero Cain, gandalf5166, Drippereth, a2rudeboy

Twenty five stand gathered, Thirteen votes will lynch.

[MemoriaEsponia]

@Katsuki: You're saying that VasudeVa is the best lynch for today for following his scum meta and that he's skating through the game, but you give more justification for why gandalf5166 is scummy.

1. Why do you think that VasudeVa's following his scum meta by skating through the game is scummier then what gandalf5166 has done? I hear more bad thing about gandalf5166 from you then VasudeVa and sharper criticism on gandalf5166.

2. VasudeVa looks to be pretty outspoken about his opinions on the game so far. Why do you think he's skating through the game? The logic there makes little sense to me.

I can direct you to several minis where I claimed scum, now that I think of it. But why would scum be reaction-fishing, ME?

To me, what you're doing looks like a good way for scum to intentionally put attention on themself and after they claim to be a joke, they watch as suspicion on them disappear.

Also, I can see fake claiming scum and fake claiming an extra huge town power role as two seperate things. Fake claiming scum as town during the first hours/days of the game is more of a risk that can get them lynched later on with one of the town motivations being they're trying to jumpstart converstation and get out of the RVS as soon as possible. To me, fake claiming an extra huge town power role under similar circumstance seems more likely a scum gambit because they have more oppertunities to hide themself and unlike with fake claiming scum as town very early in the game, fake claiming a huge town power role as scum reduce the risk of you exposing your scum partner

This post is terrible. Its not a serious claim, how can anyone who is actually paying attention believe he was being serious?

gandalf5166 did claim that it was a joke, I will admit that, but the reason why I got so rallyed up about is because if the claim was serious then it would more likely come from a scum then a townie or that he would be lying all together. However, my vote on gandalf5166 is staying because of formentioned reason above and that I have noticed his defense becoming weaker and weaker.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Unvote, vote: MemoriaEsporeia

[LimMePls]

@LMP: Finish this sentence for me. Because ME's post is terrible, ME is ___.

I don't know. I'm still trying to figure out why someone would possibly read that claim and think it was true. Could be scum, could be VI, could be nothing.

But I didn't ACTUALLY claim. I joke-claimed.

I agree that it was probably a joke.

Even if you were to try and analyze it, scum would not have claimed this huge of a power role, because Gandalf is such a major character in the LOTR series, I would be surprised if he were not in this game.

How was it probably a joke? How could anyone look at that claim and take it seriously?

A treestump that keeps voting (ie invulnerable player) with 3 actions per night JOAT? Of course he was joking.

Those who are pretending it was a real claim are delusional.

gandalf5166 did claim that it was a joke, I will admit that, but the reason why I got so rallyed up about is because if the claim was serious then it would more likely come from a scum then a townie or that he would be lying all together. However, my vote on gandalf5166 is staying because of formentioned reason above and that I have noticed his defense becoming weaker and weaker.

So you realized it was a joke, but IF it wasn't a joke, it was a scum fake claim? Explain to me why scum would seriously fake claim such an insane role.

[gandalf5166]

Vote: ME

I'm sorry, but if he's seriously going to act like that was a serious claim..........

[Katsuki]

ME needs to read more... = =
and is probably scum.

SCUM:

VV
ME
Gandalf

TOWN:

Katsuki
Glork
Inhim
Katy
Mariyta

[jenniwren]

I agree that it was probably a joke.

Even if you were to try and analyze it, scum would not have claimed this huge of a power role, because Gandalf is such a major character in the LOTR series, I would be surprised if he were not in this game.

Given that his actual player-name is Gandalf, he was most likely having fun and only that. But, don't discount the idea that someone could fakeclaim a PR like that early on just to see what reactions are stirred up.

Is this an LOTR convention or a mafia game, guys?

IDK, you tell me?

Couple questions of my own:

1. Books or Movies?
2. Favorite Book?
3. Favorite Movie?
4. Favorite Character(s)?

My username actually stems from when I first saw Two Towers back in '02, where I loved the Ringwraiths

[gandalf5166]

Okay, Kat is scum, and probably with Mariyta. She has made one content post, but she's town anyways? Lulz.

VOTE: Mariyta

[Nero Cain]

That is a interesting point.

What about that quote that makes it an interesting post?

Maybe interesting isn't the right word. What I meant is...that its something to keep in mind 'cause really I don't see his day play as pro-town so far.

vote: Zwet

I find his claim of miller quite silly, not so much the claim of miller but Arwen as a miller just doesn't make sense to me.