Allright, like I promised, my explanation for why I changed my vote to Civil Scum. Neil's reply to my vote might give some insight in that:
neil1113 wrote:Hmm, interesting vote choice Yoenit. Also, I'm very aware that there are 4 votes on Raz and Raz is at L-1. I'm comfortable with that, because out of everybody right now Raz would be my highest suspicion rated person. Evidentially, 3 others believe that too. Though I will admit, unless you have pretty damning evidence against him,
I'm going to be looking at you for trying to change suspicions off of two VERY likely scum suspects
... >_>
Notice the bolded part, that is more or less what I am gonna accuse Civil of now. In his case however he is not drawing away attention from two scum suspects, but just from one : Vinicius Chaim.
Lets start at the beginning:
post 404:
Civil Scum wrote: I think that Yoenit, Nevermind, and probably Catepillar are okay. But
I really think that one of Raz and Vincius has to be scum
(obviously I've been wrong before), and it seems quite possible to me at this point that they both are.
naming his probably townies and most likely suspects. Notice especially the bolded part.
post 405:
Civil Scum wrote:And
vote: Vincius Chaim
Aw crap, I already am on the vote count
here we have Civil reinforcing his vote on VC, then being disappointed that he was already voting for him. A honest mistake? or something else? If he had not been already on the vote count he would have put VC at L-1 right here.
post 412:
Civil Scum wrote:I think if VC flips town somehow then the scum are likely to be Olinea and Nevermind, possibly Yoenit.
What the hell? what happened to "I really think that one of Raz and Vincius has to be scum"? Suddenly two of his probable villagers are named as likely scum and Razgriz seems to be totally ignored. I have no idea why I am included, but what he does here with Olinea and Nevermind is really slick: he names two people who have recently posted they are suspicious of VC but have not yet voted for him because they did not want to put him at L-1:
post 384:
nevermind wrote:
Dislikes reading long posts yet creates them. Fantastic. I'm getting slightly town on him.
Nevermind, might I ask why didn't you vote VC in #28 when you unvoted in the same post?
Didn't vote since I didn't want to put him at L-1 (i think he was at L-2 at the time I fos'd him)
And everyone hates reading long posts right?
post 388:
Olinea wrote:Chaim's on my radar, I don't know if his defenses are lacking because of the language barrier or the inexperience. He hasn't done anything recently to make me go as far as to push him to L-1. I can't let the whole "He's new here" thing get in the way of voting, because he has just as good of a chance as anyone else to be scum.
By calling them likely scum if VC is town he cleverly dares them to put their vote on VC "prove their innocence". Olinea apparently picks up on this and does so not much later:
post 421:
Olinea wrote:Chaim, if you're gonna tell us "I get Town vibes from everyone", maybe L-1 will motivate you to dissect and find at least one scum target.
Vote: Vinicius Chaim
Now all of a sudden Civil Scum seems to think Vinicius Chaim should not be at L-1, while he tried to put him there himself a few posts back. Instead he starts attacking Olinea for voting VC, using "he is just a newbie, he can't play the game very well yet" as a defense argument.
post 426:
Civil Scum wrote:Couldn't he be a newbie townie, and not be able to do that? Or really be lost?
And him "rectifying" that would convince you he was town?
then switches off VC to Raz, putting him at L-1 without a proper explanation why he thinks Raz belongs there, while FoS'ing Olinea at the same time.
post 431:
Civil Scum wrote: unvote
vote: Raz
Fos: Olinea
Ladies & gentlemen (or actually only gentlemen I think), what I believe you have just witnessed is scum very smoothly setting up somebody to L-1, then suddenly switching off himself while crying "scum!" against the last voter and putting somebody else at L-1 without explanation.
But why would he do that?
- Lets say VC is lynched and turns up town: Civil can now say he switched off in time and point at Olinea as likely wolf, hiding his own part in getting VC to L-1 in the first place.
- Lets say Raz is lynched and turns up town: Civil says now he has suspected him all along and just did not put his vote on earlier because of the VC stuff, which is a very reasonable argument and not particulary scummy. He also gets a lot of friend points from VC this way and can just get him lynched the next day. This option is not as good as the first one, but he might actually count on people jumping off Raz as a result of his sudden vote.
When does this theory fail:
When either VC or Raz is lynched and turns up scum. I still think both are decent scum suspects, they are just not compatible with Civil being scum as well.
