No Lynch (4) - Hinduragi, VasudeVa, vollkan, NicolBolas
Hinduragi (2) - Parama, Twomz
vollkan (1) - Xite91
Not Voting (1) - Andrius
Hinduragi replaces Tazaro
With Eight in Class it takes Five to Expel
Deadline extended to September 8th, 4PM PST
First, not a newbvollkan wrote:My read of Xite (and this is a read from the process of responding, not clinically going back over) from that argument is tunnelling newb, possibly slightly town but mostly null. He's being inconsistent in the way he treats me versus others (if you didn't read the debate, basically there a number of points where he attacks me by assuming the worst possible motivations for my actions but also attacks me for not being generous enough in my interpretations of other people's actions), but, importantly, he didn't resort to misrepresentation or strawmanning and he did seem genuinely confused about the whole "definition of a scumtell" (and his confusion on that point is a factor in me not taking his inconsistency.VV wrote: What I want to hear from both of you is just this: What you think of each other? Do you think one of you is scum or is this a Town v. Town argument?
No no lynching until he catches up.Unvote
I'm going to re-read and see what the hell is going on. Try to wait. I'll be able to have re-read the entire thread by Saturday or Sunday.(I get Monday off, though, so, if I am running late, I'll definitely make it by then) Until then, try to hold off on whatever is going on atm.
I said "any" benefit of the doubt. That's important. I am not attacking you for not subjecting me to strict scrutiny. My point has been consistently that you are attacking me because my actions could conceivably have a scum motivation, without proving that it is2) Then that's not tunneling, which was a word I saw specifically IIRC (which was why I responded to it). Also, I gave you the benefit of the doubt when this game began, by saying, "oh, it's probably just his playstyle" but as the game progressed, I can be almost positive that you deserve no benefit of the doubt.
No. Where I have attacked people, it has been for actions that I consider unreasonable (ie. that a townie acting reasonably would be unlikely to do them). I have not attacked people because there is the possiblity that their actions are scum-motivated.3) So.... it's different for you than it is for everybody else?
It's a mini, so (conservatively assuming worst-case-scenario) it will be 3.Hinduragi wrote: 1. Do we have any idea of the numbers on the scum team?
If you assume 3 scum, then yes.2. Are we at MyLo?
With 3 scum, the setup at the moment is most likely 5:3 (ie. 5 townies, 3 scum).3. Why are we voting NL?
Yes, but it was "one of the V's" What changed your mind about Vas?Andrius wrote:vollkan is still scummy, and a 'V'. Though he's not QT'd with me... Parama and Twomz and Tazaro ARE though.
I've never been replaced in a game in all my time on site. (But you don't believe in meta do you? So I guess you couldn't possibly consider that fact relevant ).Parama wrote: Yeah, scum tend to be more interested in their slots.
If you're genuinely convinced he is scum, that's all the more reason to want his reads - to work out his partnersI don't care about Hinduragi's reads because Hinduragi is scum regardless.
I already did that.vollkan wrote: If you're genuinely convinced he is scum, that's all the more reason to want his reads - to work out his partners