Mini 1040 - Everyone's A Critic! [Game Over]

[kunkstar7]

:: VoteCount 1x3 ::

Antihero (1) -

DavidParker

MagnaofIllusion (1) -

RedCoyote

RedCoyote (0) -
danakillsu (0) -
Jack (1) -

Jack

Haschel Cedricson (0) -

jelly jiggler (1) -

Antihero

XScorpion (2) -

danakillsu, Stef

Stef (3) -

Xscorpion, mykonian, Haschel Cedricson

imaginality (0) -
mykonian (0) -

DavidParker (1) -

MagnaOfIllusion

Not Voting (2) -

imaginality, jelly jiggler

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

September 19, 2010 5:00PM EST.

[RedCoyote]

That's a fair enough point, but your vote on me makes no logical sense. I've never played with XScorpion before and I know absolutely nothing about him. Also, if you honestly believe that a wagon on XScorpion was scummy, wouldn't it make sense to vote for one of the people who turned it into a random wagon?

It seems like you're beating a dead horse here, and it's sounding dangerously close to, "Why me?" What do you hope to get out of mykonian?

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Why did he put xscorp on there, I can't tell.

I suspect it's because he didn't "figure out" whatever it is that made you and mykonian look good in his eyes. I suspect he was wanting XScorp to sing your praises as well.

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Don't want to insult you scorpion. It probably has already become a selffulfilling profecy that you are an easy lynch

Well, y'all must have different meta with XScorp than I do. In both games I've played with him he's been tough as nails, although it took him a while to warm up in the first. I get the opposite impression from him at the moment. That is, he's a more difficult lynch than, say, Antihero or dana, which seem like they may roll over more easily.

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Lol at post 71, 72, & 73, but no lol at post 91 (okay, maybe a little lol).

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Scum may NOT pass the Vigilante Ability to their partners. This is not a change in the setup or mechanic, it has been in effect since the beginning, but I missed it in the Special Section. My apologies.

Hmmm...

I still think I agree with mykonian, that the person who starts with the vig power is still likely to be town, although I'm a little more open to the debate than I was previously. By this I mean I'll be predisposed to thinking whoever has the power is town, but I could be convinced otherwise if I'm not feeling it.

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Because if they did they would pass it to a townie and kill that townie...well the rule is a bit confusing, but there is still no way scum started with it.

Seems like the power would be randomized if this were the case.

Unvote

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vote: danakillsu

for being the last player having not made a post that's worth a damn.

[Haschel Cedricson]

It seems like you're beating a dead horse here, and it's sounding dangerously close to, "Why me?" What do you hope to get out of mykonian?

I'm not hoping to get anything; I already got it.

[mykonian]

Well, y'all must have different meta with XScorp than I do. In both games I've played with him he's been tough as nails,

although it took him a while to warm up in the first.

I get the opposite impression from him at the moment. That is, he's a more difficult lynch than, say, Antihero or dana, which seem like they may roll over more easily.

anyway, thank you for updating me on dana and antihero.

and you voted dana... for being an easy lynch?

[imaginality]

Hi all. Long [expletive deleted day]. I'll reread this properly tomorrow. For now from recent posts I'm not liking HC's response to RC's question, the implication seeming to be that the response he wanted was for mykonian to stop voting him, which if true seems over-cautious.

VOTE: Haschel Cedricson

Were you looking for any other response from mykonian than for him to remove his vote from you? If so what?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Hi all. Long [expletive deleted day]. I'll reread this properly tomorrow. For now from recent posts I'm not liking HC's response to RC's question, the implication seeming to be that the response he wanted was for mykonian to stop voting him, which if true seems over-cautious.

VOTE: Haschel Cedricson

Were you looking for any other response from mykonian than for him to remove his vote from you? If so what?

I felt it was odd for mykonian to say that he found a bandwagon on XScorpion suspicious while placing his vote on the first person to vote XScorpion in the RVS instead of one of the people who turned it into an actual wagon, especially when one of the voters specifically said they were voting in order to create a bandwagon. I was looking for an explanation, and I got it. It's irrelevant that I was the person who got voted for.

Way to read the thread.

[XScorpion]

Ignoring me? Fine. Maybe this will encourage you to be less anti-town.

unvote
Vote: Jack

[mykonian]

pressure votes are overrated, esspecially when they are called pressure votes.

anyway, come back to the stef wagon. It is by far the best.

[XScorpion]

Nah, I like my vote now. It's on someone who is definitely being anti-town.

[jelly jiggler]

Here is another point. If we live through 3 night at least two of the people who were vigs must be townies. However it might not be a good idea to claim by that point because that will give scum a better shot at finding the new vig.

[danakillsu]

Overall I have a null read on mykonian. I think his confidence in his reads at this point is somewhat scummy, but is balanced out by his good use of logic and his willingness to post a lot of confidence. I think RedCoyote's vote of me is scummy as well. Just because I didn't have time to post when everyone else did doesn't make me scum. And yes, I am almost always an easy lynch.

unvote vote: RedCoyote

Don't you dare call that blatant OMGUS. It's the scummiest vote so far

[mykonian]

Nah, I like my vote now. It's on someone who is definitely being anti-town.

no, it is on someone who selfvotes, has been a reasonable player further and has already made attempts to get the town discussing.

Meaning your vote might very well be on a towny that is actually helping the town. I wouldn't call Jack antitown.


@ dana. It isn't the scummiest vote so far. That has been stef's vote on Xscorpion, which seems to be supported by evidence, but actually isn't!

[Haschel Cedricson]

Overall I have a null read on mykonian. I think his confidence in his reads at this point is somewhat scummy, but is balanced out by his good use of logic and his willingness to post a lot of confidence.

Elaborate.

[Stef]

@ dana. It isn't the scummiest vote so far. That has been stef's vote on Xscorpion, which seems to be supported by evidence, but actually isn't!

But actually isn't! Oh wait ... what?

Jack is probably town. Don't see what he's doing with the selfvoting exactly though. Jack, no place more useful for your vote than yourself?

Sorry bout that, I still have to wash the bad taste of Open 231 out of my mouth. I sometimes forget that people might actually answer me when I ask them why they're voting...

So... you apologize for not asking what my reasons were for voting for you. Nice. Liking my vote. Also, OMGUS rocks!

[Jack]

I feel like keeping my cards close to my chest for a while, experimental thing.

@dana: has red done anything else scummy?

[Antihero]

Sorry bout that, I still have to wash the bad taste of Open 231 out of my mouth. I sometimes forget that people might actually answer me when I ask them why they're voting...

So... you apologize for not asking what my reasons were for voting for you. Nice. Liking my vote. Also, OMGUS rocks!

What?

[mykonian]

Yes stef, you are the scummiest person around now. You are the only one that has made 2 definate scumtells. You don't even bother telling people why you did vote scorpion. (actually, you have no reasons.)

I feel like keeping my cards close to my chest for a while, experimental thing.

Ok, Jack. Just a word of advise and caution: first, that doesn't keep you from generating information. Posting might help you there. It works as a decent smokescreen for holding back information (at least during day 1). And I wouldn't keep it up much longer, as people are going to hate you when you did figure out who was scum but got killed N1 without telling the rest who actually were scum.

[mykonian]

Sorry bout that, I still have to wash the bad taste of Open 231 out of my mouth. I sometimes forget that people might actually answer me when I ask them why they're voting...

So... you apologize for not asking what my reasons were for voting for you. Nice. Liking my vote. Also, OMGUS rocks!

What?

This is stef generating a case while he is already voting xscorp. Again, scumhunting the wrong way around (town first makes a case, then votes. Scum pressures the townie, then makes the case based on reactions)

theory

OMGUS is the acronym used for a vote which has no reason other then that the person you vote voted you.
In this case, Stef voted scorp without any reason, while pretending to have them.

Scorp votes Stef

for having no reasons for his vote

.
Scorps vote on stef is therefor legitimate, while Stef's accusation that scorps vote is OMGUS is wrong.

[Antihero]

Sorry bout that, I still have to wash the bad taste of Open 231 out of my mouth. I sometimes forget that people might actually answer me when I ask them why they're voting...

So... you apologize for not asking what my reasons were for voting for you. Nice. Liking my vote. Also, OMGUS rocks!

What?

This is stef generating a case while he is already voting xscorp. Again, scumhunting the wrong way around (town first makes a case, then votes. Scum pressures the townie, then makes the case based on reactions)

theory

OMGUS is the acronym used for a vote which has no reason other then that the person you vote voted you.
In this case, Stef voted scorp without any reason, while pretending to have them.

Scorp votes Stef

for having no reasons for his vote

.
Scorps vote on stef is therefor legitimate, while Stef's accusation that scorps vote is OMGUS is wrong.

My was because I don't follow Stef's argument (where's the scumtell?).

[mykonian]

doesn't make Stef look better, does it?

Anyway, the "generating a case" part is about that.

[danakillsu]

I guess Red has also discounted a bit too much of what everyone else has to say without bringing out a lot of his own comments on the state of the game, but that's about it for his one bigish post.

[Jack]

I guess Red has also discounted a bit too much of what everyone else has to say without bringing out a lot of his own comments on the state of the game, but that's about it for his one bigish post.

What about his vote on MoI and the reasoning there?

[Haschel Cedricson]

I guess Red has also discounted a bit too much of what everyone else has to say without bringing out a lot of his own comments on the state of the game, but that's about it for his one bigish post.

Don't ignore me.

[Stef]

Mykonian:
"Stef voted scorp without any reason" - false, I stated my reason
"Scorp votes Stef for having no reasons for his vote" - Scorp did not know if stef had any reason. He didn't even bother to ask. He voted for me for voting for him. It is blatant OMGUS.

You don't even bother telling people why you did vote scorpion. (actually, you have no reasons.

Here you are lying again.

By misreping me, lying about me not giving any reasons for my vote and by validating XScorp's vote when it was clearly OMGUS you're not doing the town any favors.

Unvote, Vote Mykonian

no way this is lack of attention.

[danakillsu]

sorry, gtg. Will post answering Jack and HC later today.