Open 238: Trendy and Subversive Game Over

[TeeJay]

As an aside, perhaps the best way to play this setup would be to have doc claim early, have nurse protect doc, and then force mafia to nurse hunt.

That leaves Podium out of the equation. LOL.

[podium123456]

this game is going nowhere. where is sawyer? teejay/orochno are you guys against mass claim?

[gonnano]

I'm still here... waiting for the other three. Orochi said something about going along if he saw support, so really we need Sawyer to show up and TeeJay to say what his actual position is.

[jmj3000]

Sawyer has been prodded, checking if anyone else needs a prod now.

[Sawyer]

/Responding to prod. Sorry for not posting, I had other things I've been needing to attend to. I'll try to make a post within the next day.

[TeeJay]

I will be VLA late Friday until Sunday.

I am hesitate but willing to Mass Claim.

[Sawyer]

1: I don't mind putting myself under scrutiny here, so since most of you were harbouring suspicions about my playerslot, what case, in your own words, would you make against me? The hope is that I can settle some doubts and get myself into the game at the same time, so I figure this is a good way for me to be productive.

2: Were you surprised by who was NKed during the night? Do you think Taz/Equinox would have been a major target for you during this day phase had they lived, given the nature of the hammer D1?

3: Looking at the person you're most suspicious of, who makes sense as a scum partner for them?

1. I've already made a case on mallow not long after Day 2 started.
2. Yeah. I figured scum would keep him around seeing how scummy he was acting. I was getting the impression he was newb town though, so even though he'd deserve to be punished for how he acted, I likely wouldn't have pursued a lynch against him. But that's just me.
3. Right now, I'm most suspicious of TJ and I'm thinking Gonnano would make sense for a scum partner for him.

Nope, you finally convinced me. Sorry for all of your time that I wasted.

Great, so why did this argument continue for another page? (hence why my post is so short)

As for the massclaim, I'd say go for it. It's LYLO, so we can't afford to make another mislynch. Sure the Nurse will no doubt be dead come night time, but we have to narrow down our chances as much as we can right now.

[podium123456]

Nope, you finally convinced me. Sorry for all of your time that I wasted.

Great, so why did this argument continue for another page? (hence why my post is so short)

Uhhh... he was being sarcastic.

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VT here.

[TeeJay]

It looks like we are mass claiming. Since I will be gone late Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I will go first.

Hard to believe, but:

Claim: Nurse

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Last night I attempted to protect Sawyer as he was the least scummy person and has contributed a lot to this game.'

Before you all lynch me during the weekend, wait until I can discuss the questions that will undoubtedly come my way.

[jmj3000]

3. Each Day will have a deadline of 3 weeks, not reaching a majority of votes during that time will result in a no lynch. I may extend the deadline in special circumstances.

I may also reduce the deadline by one day each time if activity does not pick up.

Don't lurk. Lurking makes me sad

Consider this your official warning. Prodding Orochi.

[Orochi]

... And this was why I wanted to see who'd go along with the claim, and who'd say what.

Vote: Teejay

Consider that my counterclaim.

[gonnano]

Man, it's a tough call between these two... I'll have to think about this some more.

I'm a VT, not that it matters at this point.

[gonnano]

Orochi, who did you protect last night?

[podium123456]

yeah this is tricky. perhaps we should just take the safe route and lynch gonnano today.

[gonnano]

perhaps we should just take the safe route and lynch gonnano today.

what was scummy about me again?

[Sawyer]

VT.

Ok, so we have two scummy players claiming to be nurse and any fake counter claim could be enough to kill the real one and end the game knowing their won't be any consequences for another day. So in this situation I'd say the best thing to do is vote for who you think is the scummier of the two, since none of them seemed like town in the first place.

I think Teejay beats out Orochi in that respect.

Vote: Teejay

(L-1)

[Sawyer]

Unvote

Whoa. Totally forgot scum could quick hammer if it's not TJ. I stand by that vote though, so get in your last thoughts.

[gonnano]

1. TJ said who he protected in his claim post, while orochi didn't. Since scum would be making up a story, they would be more likely to leave this out than someone who actually had a protect and used it.
2. TJ claimed first, which is the less appealing choice for scum because they don't know who they're up against yet. He had a VLA notice already posted, which would have been the perfect excuse to wait.
3. Orochi noted mallow's unhelpfulness, but has continued the lurky traditions of his predecessor, maybe because he thinks he can get by with it.

[Sawyer]

I've been pretty convinced of Teejay's scumminess since his contradiction, but those are very good points actually. So I'll wait and see how things go before I decide.

[jmj3000]

Orochi has run into computer problems and has requested replacement. Contacting the first person on the list.

[podium123456]

this is pretty tough... they each are pretty much equal in scumminess to me. mallows play was pretty bad, and teejay had the contradiction and asking for claims. i did ISO's and it didnt help. i'll probably try to reread the thread again and see if i can make a decision.

[podium123456]

perhaps we should just take the safe route and lynch gonnano today.

what was scummy about me again?

pressing me to claim and expressing willingness to hammer on page 3 (or 4).

going after sawyer with a very weak case.

1. TJ said who he protected in his claim post, while orochi didn't. Since scum would be making up a story, they would be more likely to leave this out than someone who actually had a protect and used it.

Nah, i dont believe this... scum would be ready to go with all that stuff. Your 2nd point is valid, though.

[podium123456]

we havent had a votecount today, but by my count there is only one vote on teejay from orochi.

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Ugh. I reread the thread... still is very very tough. Mallow and gonnano shot back and forth at each other during RVS. Mallow acted pretty erratic/scummy D1, but so did TJ. TJ pointed out mallow's scumminess, and voted him D1.

Gonnano went for sawyer instead of the more obvious TJ (IMO)... and TJ defended sawyer while criticizing gonnano. Although gonnano was also hesitant to go after mallow, as well. Gonnano is implying that he believes TJ with his 1.2.3. post.

Sigh... i dunno. I think i would still like to vote for TJ at this point.

[Sawyer]

I was waiting to hear from Orochi to maybe help me decide who to vote for, but not only will that not be happening, but we won't know who he supposedly protected.

[jmj3000]

jenniwren replaces Orochi effective immediately. I will edit the first post when I can get on computer.