Mini #1004 - Popularity Mafia (Over)

[Parama]

Also, time to play a mod-WIFOM minigame!

1. Max
2. PranaDevil

3. VasudeVa
4. NicolBolas
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5. vollkan

6. Sando
7. vezokpiraka

8. Twomz
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9. Tazaro
10. Andrius
11. Parama
12. Xite91

1 scum in each of those groups = good theory IMO. And hey, a vollkan/Andrius/VasudeVa scumteam still works in that scenario! What a coincidence.

[Xite91]

1 scum in each of those groups = good theory IMO. And hey, a vollkan/Andrius/VasudeVa scumteam still works in that scenario! What a coincidence.

I can actually see that, but I really don't want to start a theory conversation when good theory =/= what the actual situation is, but I'll tell you what, I agree that Vollkan is scum, so today if you help me get him lynched, I will work towards him first, but tomorrow (considering Vollkan has a pretty damn good chance of being scum) all bets are off.

[Parama]

I'd be up for a vollkan lynch, but I still say that NL is the best play today.
P.S. I've been scum in 4 games where town lynched in MyLo. Those are my 4 scum wins. MyLo = BAD BAD BAD for town.

[NicolBolas]

I'm looking at this- and could Parama explain me one thing?

This seems to be MYLO- so could you tell me pros and cons to nolynching today?

I think it would be better numberswise to nolynch, myself.

Xite- you seem to be eager to lynch somebody, even if it is MYLO. Why?

[Xite91]

I'm looking at this- and could Parama explain me one thing?

This seems to be MYLO- so could you tell me pros and cons to nolynching today?

I think it would be better numberswise to nolynch, myself.

Xite- you seem to be eager to lynch somebody, even if it is MYLO. Why?

Numberwise, it's a great idea, because it lowers the percentage of hitting town, but it's terrible logicwise if everyone can agree someone is scum, because then they're most likely scum

[Andrius]

Also, time to play a mod-WIFOM minigame!

1. Max
2. PranaDevil

3. VasudeVa
4. NicolBolas
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5. vollkan

6. Sando
7. vezokpiraka

8. Twomz
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9. Tazaro
10. Andrius
11. Parama
12. Xite91

1 scum in each of those groups = good theory IMO. And hey, a vollkan/Andrius/VasudeVa scumteam still works in that scenario! What a coincidence.

Mod WIFOM wouldn't work. All he has to do is randomly assign numbers, regardless of alignment.
Theory blown.
Next

dumb

idea.

[NicolBolas]

I propose a quick poll. Since this is MYLO- Should we nolynch? Why?

I believe that we should because I'm not as certain as the others about who is scum. Also, we could use our neighbors a bit more, one more night, before we risk lynching.

[Xite91]

I propose a quick poll. Since this is MYLO- Should we nolynch? Why?

I believe that we should because I'm not as certain as the others about who is scum. Also, we could use our neighbors a bit more, one more night, before we risk lynching.

I do see that as a pro, but eh, I still feel trying to get scum now is a good idea, however because of the math and the fact that even if we hit scum we will remain in MyLo, I will not oppose a no lynch, but I won't vote for it.

[Andrius]

I propose a quick poll. Since this is MYLO- Should we nolynch? Why?

I believe that we should because I'm not as certain as the others about who is scum. Also, we could use our neighbors a bit more, one more night, before we risk lynching.

I like the last line here. I want to talk to all the loving people who neighborized me. <3

[VasudeVa]

I agree with no lynching, but shouldn't we at least claim neighborizes and chat reports? I don't buy the '2 skilled scumhunters being neighbors getting NK'd' BS anymore, we might actually lose this and we need all the information that we got.

Besides, it'll be easier to catch lying scum(about neighborizes) once we have more people who claimed neighborhoods. Getting NK'd kinda silences you, ya know?

[vollkan]

Seeing as it most likely 5:3 right now, NL is the right move. A 10:2 setup is highly unlikely (and even if it was 10:2, thus making it 6:3 right now, NL still would be less harmful than lynching in the altenrative).

Also, time to play a mod-WIFOM minigame!

1. Max
2. PranaDevil

3. VasudeVa
4. NicolBolas
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5. vollkan

6. Sando
7. vezokpiraka

8. Twomz
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9. Tazaro
10. Andrius
11. Parama
12. Xite91

1 scum in each of those groups = good theory IMO. And hey, a vollkan/Andrius/VasudeVa scumteam still works in that scenario! What a coincidence.

The fact you are even running this sort of argument gets you +2. It's not mod-WIFOM, it's just stupid.

[Parama]

Hey look, my top 2 scumspects think my theory is wrong.

You don't have to agree with me, but it's certainly not something you should be attacking me for

[vollkan]

Hey look, my top 2 scumspects think my theory is wrong.

You don't have to agree with me, but it's certainly not something you should be attacking me for

I don't think your theory is wrong. I know your theory is unjustifiable. For the simple reason that your theory rests on the assumption that the mod would abandon a fundmanetal tenet of basic modding practice - namely, that the role allocation is random.

On your above post more specifically, your first sentence raises a fairly blatant insinuation that the fact that Andrius and I think your theory is crap is evidence for us being scum. Pretty much a tinfoil-hat conspiracy argument.

Secondly, your theory is something that you should be attacked for. It has absolutely no rational basis, making you either scum or a fool.

[Tazaro]

Hey look, my top 2 scumspects think my theory is wrong.

You don't have to agree with me, but it's certainly not something you should be attacking me for

Looks like Distancing

Vote: Parama

[Twomz]

Could have sworn I posted last night... anyway, I bet the distribution is random and that there are 3 mafia as well. If there are NO powerroles... there might just be two, but it's safer to plan for three and be pleasantly surprised when the game ends after lynching two.

From his night talking, Max was for no lynch. (I wasn't at the time but I agree that we shouldn't rush a lynch unless we're sure cause we're probably at LyLo >.>)

[Parama]

Hey look, my top 2 scumspects think my theory is wrong.

You don't have to agree with me, but it's certainly not something you should be attacking me for

Looks like Distancing

Vote: Parama

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No, there is absolutely nothing related to distancing in my post. Explain how this is distancing, because there is nothing even remotely similar to it in my post. And nice job jumping on the only player to have a vote during MyLo by using terrible logic. I'd tell you to unvote because scum will quickhammer, but hey look there's already scum on the wagon right here, so no worries about that.
So Tazaro/Andrius/Vollkan then. Mmmmmk.

[VasudeVa]

Relax, it takes 5 to lynch. Anyone voting Parama to L-3 with be quicklynched with extreme prejudice.

Tazaro, you are being extremely anti-Town with those votes and if I was 2 shot dayvig/reviver I would shoot you then revive you then shoot you again for emphasis. If you're not scum, you're a scumbag's wet dream.

Unvote now or face my fury.

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I know I promised a reread on volkan, but I'm being very lazy right now. Anyway, I'd like everyone to tell me where they stand on what I said in my last post. Hell, let's do a vote count.

For neighborhood claims - Vas
Against -

[NicolBolas]

I'm for it, though i have nothing to claim.... iiiiiiq the inactive player never neighborized anybody and nobody neighborized him...

[Parama]

Relax, it takes 5 to lynch. Anyone voting Parama to L-3 with be quicklynched with extreme prejudice.

He totally just did this.

[NicolBolas]

UHM.

Ok.

xite/tazaro, unvote parama right now.

[VasudeVa]

Holy fuck, you're right. I totally missed that.

[Parama]

Yeah see this is why he's scum.
He's voting me because I nailed 2 partners.

[Andrius]

I don't think your theory is wrong. I know your theory is unjustifiable. For the simple reason that your theory rests on the assumption that the mod would abandon a fundmanetal tenet of basic modding practice - namely, that the role allocation is random.

Go read Thrillville.
There were 3 classes of players: Managers, Staff, Guests.
Guess where the 3 scum were put? One in each slot.
That was a horrible move, and I don't think LlamaFluff would do something stupid like that.

[Andrius]

Err, that was meant for Parama, against his theory.

[Xite91]

Hey look, my top 2 scumspects think my theory is wrong.

You don't have to agree with me, but it's certainly not something you should be attacking me for

Looks like Distancing

Vote: Parama

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No, there is absolutely nothing related to distancing in my post. Explain how this is distancing, because there is nothing even remotely similar to it in my post. And nice job jumping on the only player to have a vote during MyLo by using terrible logic. I'd tell you to unvote because scum will quickhammer, but hey look there's already scum on the wagon right here, so no worries about that.
So Tazaro/Andrius/Vollkan then. Mmmmmk.

Actually, Taz's vote isn't scummy, because he claimed he'd do it last night. But in order to keep from a quick hammer, I will

Unvote

So, how will we do this little votecount?