Mini #1004 - Popularity Mafia (Over)

[Tazaro]

I guess his bolding of VV confused me. I still want Andrius to be finally lynched.

[Xite91]

All post #s are ISO numbers.

Xite

:
1: Reasoning on mass pop claim is very weak, and worse that he couples it with an accusation of role-fishing. Newbish; whether it is scummy depends on how this carries forward.
2: Reiterates the weak reasoning about scum convincing town that they (the scum) are town in QTs
3: Says he is eager to join Tasky's wagon (despite not joining it earlier:

Tasky/Xite scumteam evidence

)
4: Joins the wagon. Adds at the end "I'll help push him". Newb bussing tactic of declaring your eagerness:

Tasky/Xite scumteam evidence

5: On being asked to claim, he does - despite his strong opposition earlier. +1
7: Floats the idea of quicklynches, but in ISO8 says it was a joke...
14: Really bad attack on Friend, who rightly said that a mass pop claim wouldn't help scumhunting but would help neighbourising, in saying: "So you just want to because it could help neighborizing? but not scum hunting... hmm". Not only is the logic to this weak, but Xite presents it like something really intriguing (ie "Hmm"). +1
20: Rehashes the same weak argument, but in even strnoger language with: "And the reason it was scummy that you would push a claim was that you even said yourself that it wouldn't be beneficial to scum-hunting". +1
26: Really simplistic attack on Friend for allegedly simply dismissing what Xite said, but Friend's posts are much clearer and it isn't mere dismissal. +2

Nothing useful from Shify and CSL

50: Really bad attack on Parama, purely on the basis that Sando flipped town, which also serves to make Parama-scum seem dangerous. +2

Score: 59

VV

:

1,2) It seemed like a good opinion to me, this is more based on opinion.
3) That was based on someone's question to me about him self-voting. I hate self-voters.
4) Wrong, I was helping push him because he was being scummy and I thought he was at L-2, which he wasn't, so I was helping get him there, because pressure can be a good thing to get a scumtell.
5) People were already claiming, I wasn't going to stop it, therefore I had to claim otherwise it would have been discussed, clogged the thread, and I would have either claimed or been lynched for not doing so, I figured it would be better for everyone if I just sucked it up and claimed, besides how is claiming scummy? How is not wanting a mass claim scummy?
7)

Ooh, ooh pick me!

Looks like we're going to lynch Tasky anyways

By the way, would quick lynches be good in this game? Considering the nifty neighborizing idea?

hehe three way quicktopic

No, quicklynches would be bad.

Xite, why does it look like we're going to lynch Tasky? We're only 4 pages in.

ok, just wondering

that was a joke

Nice misrep though.
But I guess I'll excuse it since you probably did check to see what I was responding to.
Oh wait, no I won't because a lot of this looks familiar

By the way, would quick lynches be good in this game? Considering the nifty neighborizing idea?

+2. Noob scum throwing out a fishing line to see if there is support for an utterly insane idea.

ok, just wondering

that was a joke

How was that a joke? It could have been a joke if you'd said: "Wow, neighbouring sounds awesome; let's quicklynch to get to it", but you didn't. You asked a question to everybody, and then claimed it as a joke when the idea was swiftly kicked.

I am too,

but I figured this might be a special circumstance

+2 Great. Thankyou for admitting you just lied.

Unvote, Vote: Xite

Uhm, can I just say something real quick?
Youre a dumb

I was saying the we're alsmost surely going to lynch tasky today was a joke
I was saying that it might be better if we each kind of interrogated each one people on our own one at a time, not that it was for sure it'd be good, but a possibility

It was an idea to end day 1 early so that scumhunting might be easier. I wasn't even saying every day, I was saying day 1

I NEVER claimed that the quicklynch thing was a joke
I don't joke about those things

20, 26) All posts numbers are ISOs
Me 14 making a pretty decent case
Friend 27 disputing some parts, the rest "yup, i don't see it
Me 16 adding more reasoning to my case
Friend 28 same as 27
If you read through my and friend's iso together, you'll see that this goes on until I had to replace out
speaking of which

LOL.
Why do people leave and come back?

Gave reason for leaving, offered to come back when it was resolved, turned out I was needed again because CSL + CSL hydra's are just ridiculously inactive
Last) Not purely because of that, mostly. There's a difference. I gave a bit more of a case on that, go ahead and actually read it.

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

Andrius (3) - NicolBolas, Xite91, tazaro
veokpiraka (3) - Twomz, Max, VasudeVa
vollkan (1) - vezopiraka
Parama (1) - Andrius

Not Voting (2) - vollkan, Parama

[NicolBolas]

unvote

I'm still reading. I'll see where my vote ends up on at the end of my read. Also- this game is a horror to reread. too many replacements...

[Twomz]

Just start at the start of Day 2, it's what I shoulda done.

[Andrius]

I forgot Twomz is in this game too!

[Parama]

Who is Twomz?

[Twomz]

Who is Twomz?

I am?

[Parama]

You am.

[Xite91]

Lulz, so guys, where'd the game go?

[NicolBolas]

I gave up on rereading the game. instead, i read people in ISO. I'm not done yet, but i felt that ReaperCharlie was posting very oddly. It was quite scummy. Vezok's posts does nothing to help the scummy feeling here, so i'll

vote Vezok

VV- Your defense of andrius is all right, but why are you so focused on "saving" andrius?

Vollkan- are you planning to put every player through the 0-100 scale you have?

Parama/Tasky is quite aggressive, i dont like his tone, but since he wasnt lynched on D1, i would think he's probably town

Andrius feels like a frustated player. Who do you think is the scum here?

Max- you seem to be a quiet player. more opinions please.

more coming later

[Xite91]

Parama/Tasky is quite aggressive, i dont like his tone, but since he wasnt lynched on D1, i would think he's probably town

How exactly does this reasoning work?

[LlamaFluff]

Max has been prodded

[Andrius]

Andrius feels like a frustated player. Who do you think is the scum here?

Xite91

ShiftyWhip CSL Xite91

Null read. CSL didn't do anything for me, more like lame town. Xite's semi scummy again.

VasudeVa

Scott Brosius

Vas is town. Unless I'm horribly mistaken.

Max

Town?

Tazaro

ConfidAnon TheLonging

VI My choice for a Vig kill

NicolBolas

iiiiiiq bv310 NicolBolas

Null. All players in this slot haven't left a mark on me, IIRC.

Andrius

Town. D'oh.

vollkan

Null. Possibly scum?

vezokpiraka

ReaperCharlie Seraphim

RC made the slot town. Vezok isn't doing a great job.

Twomz

RayFrost Friend

Besides for the part that this is Twomz, I think the slot is scum. Sorry buddy.

Parama

Tasky

I think either Parama/ the slot above him is scum.

[Andrius]

Popularity List:
1. Max
3. VasudeVa
4. NicolBolas
5. vollkan
7. vezok
8. Twomz
9. Tazaro
10. Andrius
11. Parama
12. Xite

Reposting.

Based off this...

[vezokpiraka]

Andrius you are so scum that you can't even get reads right.

unvote
Vote Andrius

You have only one scum in your reads. The others are either town or neutral.

[Andrius]

Null reads are bad. What part of that do you not understand? They're supposed to be posting more, being more active, townish. Besides, if RF/Friend/Twomz flips we'll just be hunting his scumbuddies, not individual scum like we are now.

Still not voting him b/c no chance of a wagon ATM, so.

[NicolBolas]

Tasky was hovering around l-1/-2 if i'm correct. I'm thinking that scum would have found a way to hammer him, but it didn't happen.

Andrius, why do you think that rc wa town? I found him to be scummy.

[Andrius]

RC was town because he was pushing for my lynch. Hard, IIRC.
Now, obviously I'd flip town. And when I flip town he'd look REALLY scummy.
So he'd be lynched next.
Now, why would scum sacrifice a scumbuddy to get me lynched?
There's no logical sense behind it.
So that's my read on RC. Take it or leave it.

[Andrius]

And you do realize you are voting me, right Nicol?

[NicolBolas]

Ok. I read rf and twomz.

@andrius- is your suspicion of that slot because of rayfrost' attacks on you?

[NicolBolas]

I unvoted and voted vezok if you didn't notice.

[NicolBolas]

Ok. Xite seemed scummy to me in the beginning, but I'm leaning townish on xite now. Just one question- why are you still going after Tasky? Is there anybody else that seems espically scummy to you now?

[vollkan]

Max

In the interests of time, I'll simply say that Max gets a

50

. I haven't seen any scumtells from him. (as in, I am not going to do a complete reread on somebody who I already have a solid read on)

Tazaro

1: Vote for Andrius makes no sense "trying to manipulate from the beginning" - that's a conclusion not an argument. +1
10: Expresses willingness to swap to Sando, on the basis that he doubts RF and RF is pushing Andrius. This doesn't make sense, since at the very least it would imply that his suspicion of RF is very serious, and yet he shows no willingness either to boost support for an Andrius lynch or push attentino onto RF as an alternative. +1
60: Noting here that he has many extremely short posts, making him very active but also very hard to get a read on. There is no sense of his thought process.
Taz gets a

52

overall, but I think that number may be soft, in that his posting style is one that I have personal difficulties with. It would I think be more accurate if he had a mid-50s ranking, at least an indication of how I feel about him.

NicolBolas

2: Reasoning is bad, but looks more null-newb than scummy.
...which is the impression I keep getting.

50

[NicolBolas]

Vollkan- do you think my reasoning seems bad, still?