Newbie 981 ~ Over

[Adrien C]

Come on, guys. We need some more activity!!

[KittyMo]

Vote Count 24

[2] jntp - (mothrax, julienvonwolfe)

[0] Andrius - ()
[0] Adrien C - ()
[0] julienvonwolfe - ()
[0] mothrax - ()

[3]

Not Voting

- (Andrius, jntp, Adrien C)

With

5

alive, it's

3

to lynch!

Deadline is at Thursday, August 19, 2010 at 12:00:00 Noon (Sacramento time)

[Adrien C]

I think I'm the only one alive here, Kitty.

[Andrius]

I'm alive.
Just lurking. Sorry.
I should really get more involved now. :/

I think... I'm in too many games. *GASP*
BUT I DO NOT REPLACE OUT.

[Andrius]

@ jntp: Can I pressure you for a vote?
You're the only one who's not voting, and not confirmed-town.

[julienvonwolfe]

Okay, post time. Uni's picking back up now, sorry guys. I don't really want to replace out either, though, since I think we're close.

@ Adrien - I don't see any logical way for you to be anything other than town. I don't understand your play, though. You don't want to end the day, fair enough, but you're not contributing anything other than 'come on guys!'

@ Andrius - If I accept you're the cop, can you explain why you haven't targeted me despite being outwardly leery of my still being alive even though I'm IC?

@ jntp:

Also, it's pretty funny and suspicious how you (who also has been inactive) would suddenly join mothrax and vote me.....that's quite scummy because (obviously, a scum knows the roles of the players) and may quickly jump in with someone who accused a townie so there will be fewer townies, making it easier for the scum to win!

Essentially, if I understand you, you're calling me scummy for changing my mind about mothrax and for believing Andrius' cop claim, for now? It's simple: if I believe all of those things, then you're the last scum.

IC Mode: However, you can scum-hunt (or pretend to if you're scum). Scum-hunting isn't something that can only be done by a particular role but by all townies, and refers to the process of finding scum through discussion in-thread.

[Andrius]

@ Andrius - If I accept you're the cop, can you explain why you haven't targeted me despite being outwardly leery of my still being alive even though I'm IC?

I wasn't about to waste a Cop investigation on a person I was sure would die overnight.

[Adrien C]

@ Adrien - I don't see any logical way for you to be anything other than town. I don't understand your play, though. You don't want to end the day, fair enough, but you're not contributing anything other than 'come on guys!'

Yeah, sorry about that. I'm in two other games where things got heated so I was hoping some discussion amongst yourselves would help me come to a conclusion on who the last scum is.

I can kinda understand Andy's explanation on why he didn't target you. ICs usually don't live long.

And I'm noting JNTP's refusal to scum hunt and saying his role "doesn't allow him to". He saying he is scum?

[jntp]

@ jntp: Can I pressure you for a vote?
You're the only one who's not voting, and not confirmed-town.

- It's up to you to decide who's the scum...btw, I was actually planning to vote on D2 then too late lol

Essentially, if I understand you, you're calling me scummy for changing my mind about mothrax and for believing Andrius' cop claim, for now? It's simple: if I believe all of those things, then you're the last scum.

IC Mode: However, you can scum-hunt (or pretend to if you're scum). Scum-hunting isn't something that can only be done by a particular role but by all townies, and refers to the process of finding scum through discussion in-thread.

- No, what I meant was that if you were the scum, you would've jumped in with Mothrax he voted for a Townie (jntp) and you know the roles of the players.. so you could get another Townie lynched

And I'm noting JNTP's refusal to scum hunt and saying his role "doesn't allow him to". He saying he is scum?

wait what? I thought scum hunting meant a scum searching to lynch a certain player

[Adrien C]

Ok then, who do you believe is scum and give a legit reason. I don't want to mislynch here.

[KittyMo]

Vote Count 25

[2] jntp - (mothrax, julienvonwolfe)

[0] Andrius - ()
[0] Adrien C - ()
[0] julienvonwolfe - ()
[0] mothrax - ()

[3]

Not Voting

- (Andrius, jntp, Adrien C)

With

5

alive, it's

3

to lynch!

Deadline is at Thursday, August 19, 2010 at 12:00:00 Noon (Sacramento time)

[julienvonwolfe]

jntp, are you assuming Mothrax to be town? Why?

[Adrien C]

V/LA until Monday. Moving back into my dorm room this weekend. I might be able to check things on occasion in that time frame, but not much.

[KittyMo]

Adrien`s VLA is noted. Please note mine as well. Bother Nikanor by AIM or PM if you need something.

[mothrax]

Ok, so here is my take...
Adrien is confirmed town in my book...
1. If I chose to believe Andrius's cop claim, which I do ATM, then andy confirmed him for us...
2. If andy is lying about his claim he is scum... which means Adrien is not... because why would a townie confirm another player as town and fakeclaim a cop?
So that makes the suspects three:
Andy: I still say he played scummy but I also believe his claim for now and see his reasoning behind it...
jntp: scum... the scum here have played very newbscum which leads me to him.
JVW: lurker... though his being alive as an IC worried me...

Honestly, with 5 alive, should we look at lylo possibilities... I want active players in lylo, and while neither jntp or jvw's postcount is great, jvw posts content when he does post, which is better than I can say about jntp.
and @ jntp: I am willing to look past a smaller post count if it is made up for with content, but so far I haven't really seen any of that from you either...

[Andrius]

Ok, so here is my take...
Adrien is confirmed town in my book...
1. If I chose to believe Andrius's cop claim, which I do ATM, then andy confirmed him for us...
2. If andy is lying about his claim he is scum... which means Adrien is not... because why would a townie confirm another player as town and fakeclaim a cop?
So that makes the suspects three:
Andy: I still say he played scummy but I also believe his claim for now and see his reasoning behind it...
jntp: scum... the scum here have played very newbscum which leads me to him.
JVW: lurker... though his being alive as an IC worried me...

Honestly, with 5 alive, should we look at lylo possibilities... I want active players in lylo, and while neither jntp or jvw's postcount is great, jvw posts content when he does post, which is better than I can say about jntp.
and @ jntp: I am willing to look past a smaller post count if it is made up for with content, but so far I haven't really seen any of that from you either...

1. Take a leap of faith with me. I'm an SE who's been purposefully playing somewhat badly (as I told Adrien) so I'd be kept alive this far.
2. Even if I were scum, Adrien is still confirmed town.
3. I played scummily for a reason. You have to play somewhat badly when you're an important role. Otherwise the mafia will kill you. In larger games you can't play too well or risk the mafia killing you, but if you play too badly the Vig will get you, so.

I feel like JVW would have given Dr some pointers in pre-game talk, if they were buddies... I'll think about it for a little.

[jntp]

Ok then, who do you believe is scum and give a legit reason. I don't want to mislynch here.

- I believe that the scum could either be Mothrax or julienvonwolfe. I'll keep my reasons concise
Mothrax: I like how you got all hyped up about how scummy my post is because I said that the mafia might have voted for his own teammate [post 165]....maybe you're the scum who voted for dr!
julienvonwolfe: I am still suspicious about how you would quickly jump in with mothrax and vote for me...are you trying to quick lynch or what?

jntp, are you assuming Mothrax to be town? Why?

- No, I am not assuming Mothrax to be town. Why? Like I said, I'm not assuming Mothrax to be town! I'm not assuming anyone to be a townie (well maybe I am with Adrien and Andrius...lol I just contradicted myself right there)

jntp: scum... the scum here have played very newbscum which leads me to him.

- More like newbtownie. Since now everyone thinks I'm the scum.

[julienvonwolfe]

Okay, I think jntp is desperate wriggling scum. Put yourselves in his shoes: if he believes (or decides not to discredit) the cop claim, then logically only Mothrax and I would be left as viable targets. I think I can predict his strategy: If you lynched either of us today he would say, 'whoops, must have been the other one' in lylo. He's covering his bases and this is the only way he can see to do it. Note how he hasn't given a preferred candidate for lynching.

His case on mothrax is horrible, by the way, and his case on me seemingly consists of accusing me of trying to orchestrate a quicklynch, essentially, I think. To answer his question, I am not trying to quicklynch. (IC MODE: that's not how quicklynching works - you aim for a hammer, not L-1. Trust me, I've done that as scum before and won.) I've stated my logic for thinking him scum several times; it is simple process-of-elimination. I did vote too quickly as I should've considered the cop-claim more carefully, but I stand by my vote now.

Regarding Andrius' cop claim: it seems to stand up to scrutiny, and we have a 95% confirmed townie out of it - the only possible scenarios for Adrien being scum is if Andrius is a townie who has fake-claimed for some bizarre reason, or if he is cop with a guilty investigation playing games. I don't think an SE would do either.

[Andrius]

Regarding Andrius' cop claim: it seems to stand up to scrutiny, and we have a 95% confirmed townie out of it - the only possible scenarios for Adrien being scum is if Andrius is a townie who has fake-claimed for some bizarre reason, or if he is cop with a guilty investigation playing games. I don't think an SE would do either.

Adrien is town.
I'm not THAT stupid. >_>

[KittyMo]

Vote Count 26

[2] jntp - (mothrax, julienvonwolfe)

[0] Andrius - ()
[0] Adrien C - ()
[0] julienvonwolfe - ()
[0] mothrax - ()

[3]

Not Voting

- (Andrius, jntp, Adrien C)

With

5

alive, it's

3

to lynch!

Deadline is at Thursday, August 19, 2010 at 12:00:00 Noon (Sacramento time)

[jntp]

Okay, I think jntp is desperate wriggling scum. Put yourselves in his shoes: if he believes (or decides not to discredit) the cop claim, then logically only Mothrax and I would be left as viable targets. I think I can predict his strategy: If you lynched either of us today he would say, 'whoops, must have been the other one' in lylo. He's covering his bases and this is the only way he can see to do it. Note how he hasn't given a preferred candidate for lynching.

- I am beginning to think of you more as the scum rather than Mothrax [not enough evidence at this moment], so yes, I do have a preferred candidate. In addition, you are certainly not putting yourself in my shoes correctly. My claims from my previous post were in fact honest. My reasons aren't great, because I still can't find firm evidence that either of you two is the scum. That's why I have not placed the

bolded

vote tag on anyone. Like I said before, if you want to lynch me and see for yourself, then go ahead and feel free to vote for me. However, I'm not going to claim scum, simply because I'm not a scum.

His case on mothrax is horrible, by the way, and his case on me seemingly consists of accusing me of trying to orchestrate a quicklynch, essentially, I think. To answer his question, I am not trying to quicklynch. (IC MODE: that's not how quicklynching works - you aim for a hammer, not L-1. Trust me, I've done that as scum before and won.) I've stated my logic for thinking him scum several times; it is simple process-of-elimination. I did vote too quickly as I should've considered the cop-claim more carefully, but I stand by my vote now.

- I apologize for assuming that you want to quicklynch, but it's not like you're making assumptions either.

[jntp]

whoa....no one posted at all for a whole day
that means I'm the new active person here! jk....

[Andrius]

whoa....no one posted at all for a whole day
that means I'm the new active person here! jk....

I don't have anything new to say...

most of my games are in NP or SLOW...
But I do read this thread, when my name doesn't show up next to the most recent post thing. lol

[mothrax]

This game=slow...
adrien and Andrius: who is your number one suspect? Adrien is confirmed town and Andy might as well be so I would like to hear your oppinions... also, you are the only two not voting other than jntp who has never once voted.

[KittyMo]

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