The scum motivation remains the same - attempt to avoid targeting by pro-town roles while trying to play the move off as pro-town. The question really lies in how much did you think about your potential gambit, and how much you thought about how each player would play into it.Hoopla wrote:Can you explain what the scum motivation would be for me to fake-claim in this instance,knowingthat you have witnessed me do this as a miller before? I'm well aware this will improve my chances of being lynched (even more so with your knowledge of my scum game), but the rewards of this claim certainly isn't worth that risk as scum. For me, the prevention of town PR's deathes takes precedence over my own survival, which was the catalyst for my decision to claim.
First of all, if your memory serves you correctly, I pretty much flaked out of that game. I had gone inactive and the only reason I didn't get replaced out was because I was NKed before it could happen. Overall, I inadvertently flaked on about 8 games simultaneously, that was one. I didn't even know I had been NKed in that game (which occurred in February) until June. I didn't see that game through to the end. I went back and read it about a month ago when I was updating my wiki.
Second, there's the potential WIFOM element that can pollute my thoughts if you do it as scum - "surely he wouldn't try this twice as scum with me in both games" I would think - and that I might not bring this up because of that. If that's the only game with me you've played, then you don't know my meta well enough to determine what kind of player I am. I lurked woefully in that game.
Third, you may not have even connected me with this game and 909 until I brought it up. You have 10 other completed games in 2010 according to your wiki. Sure, if you're keen on your memory, you might remember every player who you played with in each specific game. But most people aren't.
Conversely to your question - had I not brought it up, would you have honestly remembered that I was in the game where you fake-claimed a miller as scum?
If you don't make the connection, the risk/reward is greater - you basically have pro-town PRs off of your back, and you don't worry about this pesky meta bringing you into potential lynch material when you make the claim. You simply set it up to play it off as a pro-town move with the best interests of the town in mind rather than your own best interests. You likely don't expect me to attack the ploy, so you think this can be well played, like the last time.
If you do, and you do realize that I'm generally the type of player who attacks WIFOM-type issues head on rather than skirting around them, you may find the risk/reward a bit less. But what have you got to lose? You may get lynched, but you can maybe find a way to steer clear of leaving any dead tells linking you to anyone. You have also effectively derailed the town's attention on D1.
