Scummers Mafia: Greatest Bash? (Game Over, Scum wins?)

[manho]

no, you are lynching town.

[xRECKONERx]

no, you are lynching town.

convincing/10

[Starbuck]

Spy and Reck, I want reasons of why you suspect manho.

[SpyreX]

He's doing nothing. While being on the key wagons. And the responses to this my lord.

Add into that still the "Cuttlefish = rolecop" with a flipped rolecop I dont know what to tell you.

ADD TO THAT STILL the fact its been like pulling teeth getting him lynched, well.

[Starbuck]

Idk....Cuttlefish has been quite mum for quite sometime.

[Benmage]

I dont like the double votes. I dislike manho's comments on them even worse, compounded with manho's play is just plain bad.

I don't understand how we have a claimed miller this late in the game alive...goddamn replacing.

I need to reread Stars claim, I forget about it...it was in the earlier 10ish pages...Then review manho, whose probably scum and will probably hang.

[xRECKONERx]

Well, outside of manho, I really have no big hunches. Probably because I haven't read the topic, but... I feel confident that manho is the highest chance of hitting scum today.

[Starbuck]

Starbuck, why would you give me your vote? I mean it's fun getting to be a POWERFUL WIZARD for a day but I'm not sure I get the point.

I'll come clean and claim and maybe it will be understood better.


I am KMD4390, an compulsive avatar gambler but since I couldn't bet my avatar, my role is Vote Gambler.

My ability is since I always lose when I gamble, I had to give someone my vote (or it would have been given out randomly), hence leaving me without one. This is supposed to reset every night.


I looked at the list of players and decided to give it to PZ.



Unfortunately, after I gave PZ my vote, I received a notification that my mind was shattered and that I lost my ability. I am now a Compulsive Vanilla Townie, but I'll still turn up as the Vote Gambler.



So pretty much some asshole just made me a VT and now this game is going to suck for me, because I always draw VT roles of some kind in any big game and it makes it boring as all hell.



If you can't tell, I'm a bit bitter.

[Starbuck]

There ya go.

[manho]

to all who think i'm scum, obvscum, likely scum, etc.:

why would scum-monkey rolecop me? or why would scum-monkey lie about the results?

[manho]

I dont like the double votes. I dislike manho's comments on them even worse, compounded with manho's play is just plain bad.

what are you talking about? and bad-play!=scum...

[SpyreX]

Good lord get this done.

[manho]

reck is the scum here trying to get a quick mis-lynch on me, without giving out a reason, and without looking for other possible scum. benmage is the second one.

@town, stop assuming i am scum. and consider all options first. and don't pile up votes this early.

VOTE: reck

[nhammen]

That kunk drop gives me the itch BUT I can't be too itchy on it considering he RB'd THE MINDKILLER ON D2 AFTER WE KNEW IT WAS HAPPENING.

Is this sarcasm? That RB on Mr. Mindkiller makes me more itchy.

manho's "defense" is horribly lacking. It isn't even trying. I don't know what this means at all.

Well, if this is LYLO, then we know that at least 1 of manho, Spy, and Reck must be scum. And now that manho has voted Reck, if this situation continues and if this is LYLO, we have a 50/50 shot at scum for today.

to all who think i'm scum, obvscum, likely scum, etc.:

why would scum-monkey rolecop me? or why would scum-monkey lie about the results?

He would lie about the results, because if he didn't then all of the players he investigated would be confirmed Town. Or at least confirmed non-Scum. Not a good thing for his faction. The only thing that makes me iffy about that part is that I'm not sure Monkey would have thought of doing this. I need to look up who first suggested this argument. One moment.

[nhammen]

And, of course, with a named mafia faction that means chances are real, real high that while not confirmed town starbuck and manho aren't possessive mafia.

I was about to ask what actions of manho's you thought made him confirmed non-monkey-buddies, but then I realized that you were referring to monkey's claimed targets. What makes you think that he was telling the truth about his targets?

Mostly it makes sense to give the names of NOT your faction so that if they vocally support you and then you rope you haven't just screwed them all.

Spyrex was the first to suggest manho was Town because of Monkey's investigation. Unfortunately, I don't remember what specifically I was looking for in the first mention of this.

[SpyreX]

See, thinking there was two groups back in the olden days helped that process.

Regardless, manho's play means I was wrong. He HAS to be scum. Or I don't even know.

[manho]

manho's "defense" is horribly lacking. It isn't even trying. I don't know what this means at all.

there is not a case presented. so what do you think i can defence?

[Starbuck]

Reck, I honestly don't understand how you think that manho is the best chance of hitting scum when you have no reads whatsoever.

Vote: Reck

[kunkstar7]

Manho is scums for joining wagons even if he believed that they were probably town, example ortolan's wagon:

i start finding ortolan not scum.

but i don't know, i'm still with the lynch.

i was not thinking last day. i don't know why i jump on the pom wagon at all. i was following the lead last day. it is scummy to jump on a wagon blindly, like me, but the one behind the wagon is more scummy. and the most influential one is cuttlefish.

Once again, even more blatantly, except he is trying to shift the blame from himself to his "suspect" of cuttlefish, when his jumping on the wagon is clearly more scummy than Cuttle's beginning it.

The second part is in regards to Monkey's namecop rolecop results. It is likely that at least one of those is his partners, and with tajo flipped town, and Starbuck likely town, that leaves manho.

[manho]

regarding the first quote, i've said that by "start finding ortolan not scum", i mean he went down from sure-scum to scummy-to-netural. i know i have used the wrong word, but i've corrected it in a few post after that one.

and for the second quote, i admitted that i'm scummy for that jump, but you still need to find scum even if you are the one under suspicious.

and for Monkey's namecop results, that is WIFOM, so it is your choice to believe either way. but if i'm scum, i would have claimed the true result and not risk being caught by tracker/watcher/whatever.

[xRECKONERx]

STARBUCK I TOLD YOU IT'S GUT.

thought I like manho's OMGUS. IT'S SO CUTE AND SCUMMY.

Vote: manho

[Starbuck]

Looking at Reck in iso is quite a trip. I'm definitely feeling his scum meta here.

He replaces in and just iso's Pom when asked. He jumps all over her for not contributing anything useful, which is complete hypocrisy on his part now because he has never caught up with the game. So he's just as useless as Pom was.

He also does the same with Zang, just iso's him and says he's scum WITHOUT READING THE REST OF THE GAME.

Hmm - Zang's iso is bad. But it reads almost newbtown instead of newbscum.

But later on he contradicts himself and says...

I said it's hard to tell between newbtown and newbscum.

I honestly don't see you saying that the above in that first quote.

This feels like he is trying to pull some of the heat off of Zang, and it worked because Zang (now Benmage) is really on no one's radar.


The following comment rubs me the wrong way...

We should massclaim at the last possible moment.

Sounds like someone stalling for a fakeclaim.

I'm Percy. VT.

Flavor mentions something about me being sick and tired of cults and just wanting to be a normal person for a change. I don't know muchanything about Percy as a player so I don't get it.

I've played with Percy once or twice. Does anyone know his meta or history?


He then votes kunk after the massclaim because...

His claim was by far the most unbelievable of the VTs.

And his constant excuse through his iso is "I haven't caught up yet". He replaced in on May 31st. It is now June 23rd. 3 weeks and 2 days later. That's ample time to catch up.

STOP BEING SAINTKERRIGAN, RECK!

[xRECKONERx]

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T WANNA CATCH UP FFS

I ONLY DID THIS CUZ I <3 THE MOD AND HE NEEDED A REPLACEMENT

[animorpherv1]

K, so, it's not Starbuck.

PEOPLE WE'RE NOT LYNCHING TODAY:

SpyreX (town vibes)
Starbuck
xRECKONERx (cause I said so)

PEOPLE WE COULD LYNCH TODAY:

nhammen
Benmage
Cuttlefish
animorph

PEOPLE I WOULD WAGON RIGHT NOW:

kunk
manho

This entire list is based almost solely off of gut feeling because I didn't read the topic.

Hey Reck. If you bothered to look, you know I'd be the CLAIMED WATCHER who followed Zazie to ortolan, then got his mind blown.

vote:Reck

[SpyreX]

FFFFFF I dont like this at all.

Although, Reck isn't lynched yet. BUT THAT VOTE MAKES ME UNHAPPY ANI