Mini 981: Descent into Chaos (Game Over)

[UncertainKitten]

1. The town. I've said, several times, that we should be VOTING ON WHO SLEEPS AND WHO DOESN'T.
2. Once again, you miss the point. Scum CANNOT SLEEP AT NIGHT if they are not permitted to sleep during the day.
Further, this plan is only catching scum as an AUXILLARY. It's more PREVENTING TOWN FROM DERPING THE FUCK UP. Well, let me rephrase that. Argument D from earlier has a chance of catching scum that's different from the rest of the arguments I'm making. I just don't want to reveal it yet.
3. ok
4. Well, you see, I don't trust any of you fuckers. Have no reason to. Well, that's a lie, I trust farside atm because she looks town. I sorta trust ABR but am not as sure since he's harder to read. I don't trust the rest of you.

As for your silly Star Wars quote, you have, once again, FAILED to demonstrably wreck my plan.

So, RC, what PRECISELY do you propose that would be better, and actually give us ANY advantage and NOT lead to a D3 trainwreck?

[Albert B. Rampage]

With regards to your plan: As Obi-Wan Kenobi would say: "Who is more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?"

Haha nice. I like you.

[ReaperCharlie]

what PRECISELY do you propose that would be better, and actually give us ANY advantage and NOT lead to a D3 trainwreck?

I propose that since the scum can talk where we can't see, but can still see everything we say, that we mix things up a bit and sleep whenever the f*** we want. That way, scum can't plan anything with nearly as much precision or accuracy because they don't

already know

when everyone will be sleeping.

It's beyond me why you keep trying to powergame this whole sleeping situation, even to the point of pushing a solution with holes, just because you want to be right.


@ ABR: Great. Let's be friends. After this game though.

[UncertainKitten]

@RC: Um...no, your solution SUCKS. It COMPLETELY opens us to Power role fail, vote fail, and worst of all SCUM CONTROLLED MISLYNCHES. There's no ORDER to who's staying up when, and without that order, it will trainwreck.

Further, it doesn't cover Argument D, which is actually a really cool argument that you CLEARLY aren't considering. Think for two seconds LESS about how vehemently against any plan you are (likely fear of an organized town), and MORE about how a plan can be useful. Since you clearly aren't.


Actually, I hope you fail to see argument D since you would probably tell your scumbuddies.

Yes, I'm calling you scum at this point. Your arguments, much like my other suspects, do not make any logical pro town sense, and feel like bucking any organization because you are afraid of it, NOT because you fear it hurting the town.

If you did, you'd have LOGICAL REASONS why organized sleep hurts town.

[UncertainKitten]

Actually, let me be more specific.

What, precisely, about disorganized sleep hurts the scum, WHATSOEVER? What precisely do they need "precision" or "planning" on that involves sleep cycles?

[UncertainKitten]

nah, you know what? I'm getting stupid myself. I can't accept that the scum are CONVENIENTLY those that detract from my plan.

At least one, if not two of you have to be town. I AM convinced there is at least one scum detractor.

I'm also convinced there is at least one scum supporter, but I'm less sure about who it is.

In fact, RC, I'd say you are probably the least likely to be the scum detractor, which makes it all the more frustrating to have to argue with you because you have it so wrong!

[Chronopie]

A disorganised sleep cycle has potential to harm the town, as PR's can end up missing their PR target. Votes may/will be missing their intended targets, and if the affected all decide

independently

to sleep on the same phase, we could end up with a scum controlled lynch majority.

tl;dr organised sleep > lack of organisation. geddit?

[ReaperCharlie]

Ok well... UK: Let's just agree to disagree, mmk?

Mmk.

[UncertainKitten]

The problem is, we can't afford to do that. Unless by agree to disagree means you'll comply with the town's wishes and just be really sour about it?

A valid argument against organization that I'm surprised no one brought up is people going against the town's organization by way or paranoia or other such things and therefore making themselves falsely read as scum.

Not sure how to get around that one at this time ^-^;.

Oh, hey, one hour left, why is easjo not dead yet?

[easjo682]

just before I die, do you guys want me to claim?

Also something you guys may or may not find interesting but Albert B Rampage contacted me through his ability thing.
he had some interesting phrases that he chose to say including; how he found it interesting that townspeople had turned on me; he thought chrono was scum and didnt think much of Viqles; he said he didnt find me suspicious and thats why he chose to speak to me; he said he didn't like UK's sleep plans and the way she was behaving but thought it came off as townish; he wanted me to claim to him privately before I had to publicly which I did, also sharing with him my ability both of which I will post for you guys should you want me to.

[UncertainKitten]

That's nice. ABR would have to confirm it but yeah.

Viqles is the guy who was conveniently V/LA for the rest of D1, right? Can't say I'm happy about that really, to be honest.

Chrono isn't giving me any bad vibes. Someone else is that I haven't disclosed yet since I really would like to do one of those dreaded ISO's of them.

Either way, you should probably claim.

Also, designate someone to pick up your item. If you are town, it'd bear looking into, and if you are scum we can duly ignore you.

[UncertainKitten]

Wait. Belay that.

[UncertainKitten]

I somehow simultaniously remembered and forgot the item mechanic. I actually would have to say that claiming your item might NOT be a good idea. If you flip scum, someone can pick it up and tell us what it did. If you flip town, it might be best to keep the power secret so it's still useful.

[easjo682]

I'd rather have everything laid out in public, so everyone has a chance to know

I'm a Guild Sorcerer and my Alignment is Town.
My inventory item is
Fetish-Crafting Kit , it allows me to craft a fetish of a person, so that whatever happens to me that phase will happen to them.

[UncertainKitten]

...that doesn't apply to lynches, does it?

Cause that could be really important...

In other news, why did you ask if town wanted you to claim and then after one opinion occurred you decided to claim after all?

[Nikanor]

Yeah, you shouldn't have claimed that. I think you should give the item to someone you think is town so that they can use it tonight. Just don't announce the person who you are giving it to.
easjo looks more town with that item claim, but we have a little over an hour to get a lynch through today.

[SaintKerrigan]

Less than one hour to the deadline.

[Me=Weird]

Someone vote easjo now!! All I have time to say.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It probably does apply to lynches. If esajo dies UK dies as well.

[UncertainKitten]

Well, that was incredibly fucking retarded. Easjo, you better be scum. Cause if I die due to your lynch, I am not forgiving you for such terminal stupidity and anti townness. We might disagree, but there are FAR better targets to use your power to double lynch, and you and I BOTH DAMN WELL KNOW THIS.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's up to me to make a difficult decision again.

Unvote, vote esajo

Sorry girls.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: We might disagree on the sleep thing, but both of us know (suspects, etc.)

Anyway, this bolloxes up everything since we can only afford to have THREE people sleep if I or anyone else indeed dies due to easjo's lynch.

And we have negative 16 minutes to decide who.

Meaning...I have no idea how we'll make this work.

...wait, we just no lynched didn't we . You all suck >=[!

[UncertainKitten]

...hmm? Oh, nevermind. my time settings are off. Ok, we have 43 minutes.

And if both easjo and I die, then we need to figure out who of our volunteers is NOT sleeping tomorrow.

[UncertainKitten]

Also, farside needs to pick up my item if I die. Anyone else picking it up is probz scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You need to tell me what your item is or else my greedy hands might accidentally stumble upon it.