Mini 978 - The Wire Mafia - Game Over!

[Fate]

Jason refuses to take a hard stance on this issue like Deer.

"No I don't believe you are the bomb"
"But were you lying? Are you the bomb? IF yes, Then Deer is your scumbuddy/"

No, I dont beleive you are the bomb... But I can see it being used as an excuse not to hammer. Especially by scum.. And this does make me see Deer as scum

So, if I'm reading you right, Deerbuddy is using my bomb fakeclaim as an excuse not to hammer me?

Then why was he fine with someone else hammering me? (Raider I believe it was?)

But I guess you're gone now *sigh* Anyone else want to come try and convince me why Deer shouldn't be lynched today for that claim?

[VP Baltar]

What's the scum motivation for claiming bomb again?

To scare people away from hammering you....which is what happened actually. I'm pretty sure I've already said this. I've seen it before as well, so you're not even original if your'e scum.

The fact that neither of them want to hear my realclaim and just lynch me quickstyle just makes me *Facepalm*

Actually you were asked for your real claim and you refused, saying only that you weren't the bomb and such. But I guess it doesn't much matter since I didn't really believe your claim in the first place.

Camn speculating on self imposed role restrictions.... not sure on this, I actually am thinking Jebus may have been gagged.

What do you mean by gagged?

Page 16 of bickering made my head hurt. I'm glad to see Jason posting more now and that makes me feel better about him at the moment. Fate's insistence seems townish as well unfortunately. Let's just lynch deer and if it fails we'll deal with the consequences tomorrow (and I'll say I told you so if he is indeed town and we waste a lynch).

I'm ready to hammer unless anyone wants to hear anything else.

[SensFan]

HAMMERHAMMERHAMMER

[Deer]

I'm lynchable, it's just a one-shot lynch prevention. That I'm using as of right now. I'm Lt. Daniels, by the way. If you want to test it, it's cool, but you're wasting a lynch.

[VP Baltar]

now it's a one-shot...if you guys are town I really hope you learn from this game that lying about your role looks REALLY bad.

[SensFan]

Why the fuck have all 3 people that have claimed today later admitted that they lied about their claim?

On the subject of Deer specifically:
*Why in the world would you bother telling us you only have 1-shot prevention, at this point? The only reason I can come up with is that you want us to think "Oh, lets not waste it if you only have 1-shot!"
*What happens when you hit a majority number of votes?
*Why in the name of God would a Town role actually be 1-shot lynch immune?

[animorpherv1]

I didn't lie, I just read something wrong, and corrected it a little later.

[SensFan]

Says you.

[jasonT1981]

Urgh, cant sleep.

but to answer your question, VP...I'm not sure of the role, but I believe there is a role were someone can choose someone to restrict what they can do... in essence gagging them.. looking back over Jebus's postings in ISO the only time he has actually posted any words is to vote... and that fits in with the role I am thinking about... however, I have never heard of it done on day 1.

Actually, looking it up its called Mafia silancer and this is the discription

* Mafia Team Variant Roles—"Silencer", "Yakuza", etc.

The "Silencer" can 'silence' anyone each day (except whoever was silenced yesterday). The silenced individual wakes in the morning and is immediately instructed not to talk until the end of the day (They may vote and be executed though). The Silencer does not participate in the mafia killing, and the mafia do not know who their silencer is, but he is typically aligned with them and knows their identities. The Yakuza is a regular mafia player with an extra power: they may sacrifice themselves from the second night (during the night) and choose an innocent to join the mafia team.[41]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_%28party_game%29

This fits perfectly as to what is going on with Jebus, hence I believe he may have been gagged.

[animorpherv1]

I've seen the Yakuza on EM, but without the silencing.

[jasonT1981]

What's the scum motivation for claiming bomb again?

To scare people away from hammering you....which is what happened actually. I'm pretty sure I've already said this. I've seen it before as well, so you're not even original if your'e scum.

THIS is exactly what I meant by fear claim from Fate.

[jasonT1981]

I've seen the Yakuza on EM, but without the silencing.

They are two seperate roles. Wiki just listed them together as Variant Roles, if you look at the link... it lists all same types of roles together.

[raider8169]

I dont buy that scum would have even a one shot unlynchable. Its day one and we have 3 claims already. Sorry for the short post, Im a little tired.

[Sotty7]

Sotty is also content with my lynch due to meta.... (a FALSE meta at that, since the game she is referring to I was lynched in abstenia, and the OTHER game I was with her in I made crazy posts as TOWN). Her "if he was my buddy I'd bus him" claim is just pure WIFOM.

No try again please. I am “content” with your lynch due to super scummy pushing for a claim on someone you “believed” was a power role. The meta of you posting crazy and coming with theories outta your ass links with it. But I wouldn't be voting you just on meta. I've learned that lesson thank you.

Is the other game you are talking about the one were you replaced in when I was scum with Thesp? I don't remember your posts as “crazy” but I did coast a lot of that game. I will look back.

The fact that neither of them want to hear my realclaim and just lynch me quickstyle just makes me *Facepalm* because I'm pretty sure they BOTH aren't scum. Oh and CDB is no better either. 

Prettttttty sure I have asked you for your real claim and you did claim your name and stated you weren't a bomb. To me that's a claim. If you have more, then spill.

Also claiming BOMB is not to make people afraid to hammer. Since Sotty and the like thought I was obvscum why didn't they just hammer it knowing that I was probably lying? They were afraid because of the very high chance I was town.

Bullshit. Please show me any post where I am afraid to hammer you or a post where I even believe your bomb claim.

Everyone wanting to lynch me today instead of Deer, because "zomglol Fate is so obvscum" are so arrogant they are ignoring the CORRECT PLAY, and D2 everyone will go "WALP Fate wuz town! oopz. NOW lets lynch Deer." Scum are going to win this game with this mindset.

Arrogant? There is no clear correct play that I see. Out of you and Deer I think you are much more likely to flip scum.

Also a scum fake bomb claim is perfect in a game where no one is VT. Everyone thinks their role is super awesome and will help the town. A hyposcum claiming bomb at the peak of his lynch-1 wagon has NOTHING to lose and EVERYTHING to gain. Just look at how quickly your wagon fizzled out. You rolled the dice and gambled that there would be someone out there that wouldn't want to hammer and lose their role. I can certainly see a scum motivation for a fake bomb claim for sure. This is why I wasn't sure about Deer's reaction earlier. But I do agree he doesn't look good by saying “Fate is town” while not pushing else where. That has nothing to do with your fake claim.

Okay damn, VP says this again in post 401 but I prefer my explanation.

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hmmm Jebus post restricted? I am beginning to think this however his post 198 actually makes me think he has been gagged and can only post votes given his mouth taped up picture.

Gagged suggests an action and we haven't had a night. I suppose it could be a day power, but I'm not really buying it at this point.

Also most of this post is just telling us what happened and not your opinion of what happened. An example of that would be “

VP 203 is giving me more town vibes from him

” You need to actually explain why.

Can I also get your opinion on Raider and CDB because you failed to talk about any of their posts in there.

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Page 16 of bickering made my head hurt. I'm glad to see Jason posting more now and that makes me feel better about him at the moment. Fate's insistence seems townish as well unfortunately. Let's just lynch deer and if it fails we'll deal with the consequences tomorrow (and I'll say I told you so if he is indeed town and we waste a lynch).

Ehh, it's going to take more than posting on one night to make me feel better about jason. At least he is around anyway.

[jasonT1981]

I dont buy that scum would have even a one shot unlynchable. Its day one and we have 3 claims already. Sorry for the short post, Im a little tired.

A scum unlynchable, even a one shot completly of defeats the purpose of mafiascum games though, were the town goal is to lynch scum... which is why I am not buying Deers claim.

[Sotty7]

I dont buy that scum would have even a one shot unlynchable.

Why not?

Its day one and we have 3 claims already.

And?

Sorry for the short post, Im a little tired.

I'm looking forward to some actual contribution from you. It has been very sparse.

[camn]

Dear everyone:

Please

start playing your roles better.
Please.

Deer: If you are telling the truth (which I doubt).. why did you bother telling us you were 1-shot? Now we have to lynch you twice.
If you would have kept your mouth shut, you could have commanded a scum nightkill... which should be the true goal of every vanilla townie.
Hopefully, if you ARE town, you are actually double-lying, and are actually truly unlynchable. Then if scum try to mislynch you in Lylo, they will fail.
Actually, nevermind. You are scum. Your play re: fate exposed it. Your claim isn't credible. and we have nothing to lose by hanging you.

Fate.. if you WERE a bomb, you misplayed it. But you aren't.. and I actually am NOT a lynch-all-liars fan. I believe you lied, and I think it was a clever pay as town. (or scum). as long as you don't get too scummy, you have a townread from me.

Someone hammer Deer, please. This day exhausts me.

[Jebus]

I'm lynchable, it's just a one-shot lynch prevention. That I'm using as of right now. I'm Lt. Daniels, by the way. If you want to test it, it's cool, but you're wasting a lynch.

Unvote: Fate

Vote: Deer

[camn]

Calling the bluff!

[MacavityLock]

Day 1 Final Vote Count

Deer (7) -

raider8169, SensFan, camn, Locke Lamora, animorpherv1, Fate, Jebus

Fate (3) -

ChannelDelibird, Sotty7, VP Baltar

SensFan (1) -

jasonT1981

raider8169 (1) -

Deer

7 votes needed for lynch. 6 votes needed for No Lynch.

The Episode has ended. As per the rules, Twilight should last for 6 hours, but due to me wanting to get some sleep, today will end approximately 3.5 hours from this post. Mod guarantee that this has no effect on gameplay. During Twilight, everyone may post as normal.

[Fate]

Why is me being town unfortunate VP? Am I really that terrible?

I thought my bomb claim was reaction fishing gold, but hey I guess I'm just biased.

SEE YA TMORRAH

[Deer]

Hey you guyz ready for a NL?!?! It's comin'!

[Fate]

I'm waiting for you to say bah go scum myself.

If you're somehow town want to explain why you tipped your hand and claimed 1shkt unlynchable? Now someone useful is going to die tonight

[MacavityLock]

Episode 1 - Scene 2

Assistant State's Attorney Rhonda Pearlman stormed down the stairs and into the dank basement that the Major Case Squad had been set up in. "Lieutenant Daniels!" she shouted.

Daniels came out of his office. He waved the squad over. "Detectives, meet Attorney Rhonda Pearlman. She's heading up the prosectution for our Barksdale cases."

"Not with shit warrants like this, Cedric. Your officers seem to be entirely unable to type. Or spell. Or be coherent in any way."

"You're really having a problem with the warrants?"

"Yes, Cedric, I am. We're trying to make warrants that judges will actually sign off on. If I bring these things in, I'll get laughed out of chambers."

Herc whispered over to Carver. "So, we actually have to

write up

the warrants now? Alls I want to do is bust some heads."

"Shut up, Herc," Carver replied

"We're just getting set up, Rhonda," Daniels pleaded. "I mean, just look at where they put us up. We'll have good warrants for you soon."

"How soon are we talking?"

"Give us 24 hours. Even if I have to get these fuck-ups to stay with it all night."

"Fuck!" Prez complained. The other detectives mumbled angrily to each other.

"Well, the sooner we get these warrants in, the sooner we can start pulling these guys in." Rhonda picked up her briefcase and walked out. McNulty caught her eye as she was leaving, a wide smile on his face.

Daniels turned back to his crew. "Well, you heard the lady. Let's get working."

---

Episode 1 has ended with

No Lynch

. All players with night abilities have 72 hours to get their choices into me. (Actually, due to me-getting-sleep issues, let's make it 71 hours from this post please.)

[MacavityLock]

Important Role PM clarification. The Investigate ability now reads as follows

Investigate - Each night, you may PM the mod the name of a player you'd like to investigate. If that player is the Snitch, that player will give up the name of any members of the Barksdale Crew that he knows of. If for any reason you fail to target the Snitch, you will receive "No Result". You may only target each player in this manner once.