Mini 978 - The Wire Mafia - Game Over!

[Deer]

That's not an accurate analogy. Try again?

[SensFan]

You are Guilty.

[Deer]

Look, I don't want to keep going back and forth with you on this. I'm town and I'm not going to hammer Fate. If you guys want to lynch me, so be it.

[camn]

vote : Deer

Deer- if fate were town, do you think his claim was a good play?
If he were scum?

[Deer]

I think his claim probably scared you guys off from hammering him, yeah. That's not why I don't want to hammer him, though.

None of you guys have the balls to drop a hammer on your top suspect?

[MacavityLock]

Vote Count

Deadline: June 16, 9 PM EST

Fate (5) -

ChannelDelibird, Sotty7, Jebus, VP Baltar, animorpherv1

Deer (3) -

raider8169, SensFan, camn

VP Baltar (1) -

Locke Lamora

SensFan (1) -

jasonT1981

raider8169 (1) -

Deer

camn (1) -

Fate

7 votes needed for lynch. 6 votes needed for No Lynch.

[camn]

Not an answer. Try again.

[Deer]

If fate isn't lying about his role, then I think it's a good play. If he's scum I think it's a good play too. If he's doing it simply to avoid the lynch than I'm not a huge fan of it.

[Locke Lamora]

Well, this should make things interesting.

Vote: Deer

Deer: why do you think it's a good play as town? What benefits do you see from him claiming relative to him keeping quiet? Is there anyone else you wouldn't like to hammer Fate?

Right now I'm in favour of a Deer or Raider hammer.

[raider8169]

Well, this should make things interesting.

Vote: Deer

Deer: why do you think it's a good play as town? What benefits do you see from him claiming relative to him keeping quiet? Is there anyone else you wouldn't like to hammer Fate?

Right now I'm in favour of a Deer or Raider hammer.

Just wondering, do you have a one post per day limit or something?

[raider8169]

If fate isn't lying about his role, then I think it's a good play. If he's scum I think it's a good play too. If he's doing it simply to avoid the lynch than I'm not a huge fan of it.

You are thinking of yourself in terms of only you matter instead of the bigger picture. As town it is a good play to get yourself killed to take out scum. Refusing to do so simply makes you scum, do you understand this?

[Locke Lamora]

No, there's no limit. See?

[ChannelDelibird]

Sorry, been travelling.

I don't like ani's 314.

Re: Fate hammer and Deer: eh, I dunno, I can see Deer as stubborn town, but the way he's approached this kind of means we really have to get him to hammer, because it is exactly how scum would want to play this too.

LL - if you want Fate to be hammered, why are you no longer voting for Fate?

[Locke Lamora]

Because I wanted to put more pressure on Deer to emphasise that he should hammer or be lynched. It's all very well saying that we'll all lynch Deer if he doesn't, but votes drive the point home a lot better and make the threat of lynch more realistic. You have made me realise that I need to:

Unvote; Vote: Deer

[VP Baltar]

Deer, yes or no, do you believe Fate's bomb claim?

[camn]

Ps.. What happened to Fate? Think he feels the winds changing, so he is laying low? Or maybe he is just ashamed of himself? I would like his response.

[Fate]

I'm right here bitch at a cafe.

Do you read sigs or do you ignore everything that might explain my actions in a town-manner?

NO ONE HAMMER UNTIL I'M DONE TALKING.

I've decided to try, because hell, there's still hope at L-1. Especially with Raider/Deer having faith in me/being scum and knowing I'm town.

THIS NEXT ONE'S FOR MY HOMEBOYS RAIDER AND DEER:

[MacavityLock]

Mod warning to Fate.

Please keep things civil in my game. Not everyone goes back and checks sigs for V/LA. I know I didn't.

Fate's LA is noted.

[animorpherv1]

unvote, vote Deer

Deer, your L-2

[Fate]

Game Analysis

Sotty Policy Wagon

-Sens, camn, and VP Baltar jump on Sotty at the beginning of the day. Supposedly for vengeance joke reasons, so this is mostly a null-tell. I'll note camn's presence on this wagon though.

-Jebus jumps on after Sotty counter votes. Noted Jebus on first wagon

-Fate comes in and votes camn for said vote as it stuck out to him, jokingly makes a Sotty/Camn scumteam reference.

-Jason comes in and votes Deer and says nothing about the Sotty policy wagon. This begins the Sotty v. Jason meta-debate.

-Locke comes in and RVotes VP for setting up lynches pre-game. No comments on anything else. Null random vote tell

-CDB questions the seriousness of Locke's vote. ++Town

-Sotty votes Jason and begins the "WUT U HAZ NOTHIN TO SAY!" meta-throdown. VP wagons with Sotty

-Camn calls VPB town pretty early -Scum

-Raider comes in, random votes, Null

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Sotty... I didn't react to the wagon, well because I thought VP was joking to get the game going. I didn't realize he was serious until after my first post were he started giving out links to past games.

-Jason's response to Sotty. Doesn't seem genuine. I would ALWAYS comment on a longtime meta-friend's wagon. -Slight Scum

Deer VS. Animorph

Deer posts his joke/dumb content that he would not scumhunt all game. Ani is the first to call him out on this and votes him.
-Camn wagon hops onto Ani, 2nd large wagon camn has been on.
-Ani pushes Deer further and says "vote stays" after Deer explains joke/
-VPB calls camn out for her shameless wagoning. ++Town
-Fate quotes VP's line and votes camn for said shameless wagoning
-camn calls herself obvtown and says that Fate is doing VP's dirty work for him (instead of acknowledging that Fate can have his own opinions, apparently)-Scum
-Deer jumps on for the parentheses that I never posted, so he was the first to point this out++Town
-CDB votes me for post #78, Btw. Later says it was for following VP's vague meta (I was following my own meta of camn, btw)
-Sotty shows the meta-evidence and makes NO COMMENTS on Deer, Camn, Ani, etc. -Scum
-Jason retorts Sotty and makes no comments. -Scum

-VP takes sotty's side
-"I don't know which side to take"-ani-Scum

-CDB calls for my wagon.

-BLAH BLAH ANI PUSHES DEER WAYYYYY TOO HARD BLAH
-Camn switches from voting with ani to voting Ani.-Scum (which I call out in the next post)
-SensFan votes with Camn on ani
-Fate goes from voting Camn to agreeing with her and voting ani for his tunneling
-Deer finally jumps on ani a little bit late. Pretty opportunistic -Scum
-Camn calls ani getting scummier by the post-NOTED CAMN BELIEVES ANI TO BE ACTING LEGITMATELY SCUMMY FOR LATER
-Jason finally comments on all the happenings, but stays off the ani wagon and votes SensFan instead for calling camn obvtown.+town
-Jason is pushed to vote ani by more BS from ani

WAIT FOR MORE POSTIES:

[Fate]

Wait what the hell am I doing?

Did I do something pro-town while LA and somehow avoid L-1?
Let me go re-read the last few pages before I continue analyzing 13 pages when I only have so long on the computer...

[SensFan]

For what its worth, I'm not bothering to read anything ScumFate says.

[Fate]

Tunneling is particularly pro-town Sens, thanks for your contribution. Since I'm commenting on the whole game you'd think you would read my posts to look for any connections.

--Scum Sens

[Fate]

I read the last couple of pages, and all I have to say is: JUST AS PLANNED.

If raider's the only one that can see the pro-town motivations for claiming bomb as town that's fine. I got all the reads I need right now and THEN SOME.

I have a new suspect now as interesting things have happened (sorry camn).

FTR claiming bomb as scum is bad play. It makes you the DEFINITE lynch of the day, with the 2nd scummiest person hammering you, or your partner bussing you with a hammer to look like they weren't afraid of the bomb. (which is also bad if people see through it).

FTR camn says bomb is unlynchable in LyLo, WHAT? It basically gives town TWO lynches at LyLo, either two people blow up, or the fakeclaim scumbomb gets the lynch.

K now going to analyze Deer's fear of hammering me.

[SensFan]

Quite frankly, I don't give a fuck if you think I'm tunelling. You're going to be lynched at some point in this game.
We just need to decide if we lynch Fate or Deer today. Or if Deer wants to co-operate after all, now that Fate looks like he's going to throw him under the bus.