Mini 978 - The Wire Mafia - Game Over!

[Fate]

Yo

[Fate]

I don't know the theme either but I inned because someone told me to.

Or maybe I know it all too well and my fakeclaim will be glorious.

I HAVE SOME MORE WIFOM CAKE IN THE FRIDGE WHO WANTS SOME?


Also I'll probably sheep Sotty this game because of how scarily dead on she is about

things

.

[Fate]

Vote: camn

Femme Fatales scumteam ftw?

[Fate]

Dissonance to between me sheeping you, jumping on a popular wagon, and voting VP.

I got confused and scared so I went off on a random tangent and called the scum team.

[Fate]

You know, camn, I expect this kind of thing from ani, but you? You just went up on my list.

Yo, CDB, say something interesting so I don't have to kill you.

Unvote:
Vote: Camn

[Fate]

@mod:Animorph was NOT the first vote on Deer's wagon

Hey, you're right. Vote count corrected.

[Fate]

Unvote, Vote: Fate for post 78, by the way.

I suppose you're voting me for not explaining my vote, in which case you did the same.

Hypocritical Chainsaw Defense, my new favorite kind of scumtell!

Two scum, page 4.

Let's wrap this up and put a bow on it.

[Fate]

Did Camn just go from voting with Ani to voting Ani?


Durrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I side with Sotty, but I could care less in light of #107.

[Fate]

Please, VP. I am as town as the day is long.
The fact that you can't see it yet is your problem.

^This is not a towntell

[Fate]

Too obvscum to be scum?

Nah that never works.

Do you see animorph's persistence as townie?

Nope.

Unvote:
Vote: Ani

[Fate]

You were already voting ani.

Huh.

[Fate]

I looked at the VC in the OP, not page 4, that's right he did move to you first.

[Fate]

Oh lord ani needs death.

A-Claim immediately upon saying you won't scumhunt?WUT?
B-PL are anti-town
C-not much opinions should be expected on EVERYONE in the RVS
D-I can see it now "

Deer this is your warning. Continuing to refuse to scumhunt will result in a modkill. You MUST scumhunt to play in my game

E-Are you a jester or some shit?

[Fate]

Hmmm Sens is avoiding commenting on major things.

Hell maybe they're both scum. It's not like it hasn't happened before.

[Fate]

Fate.. I am agreeing with everything you have said recently...
However, your play here is wildly different than your play in our short, recently abandoned game.. where you were town?

Why is it different? Could it be that your alignment is different? Is it the lack of Sociopath? Please explain.

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

[Fate]

We saw that post already.

NOW FUCKING EXPLAIN IT BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE LETTER YOU"VE LISTED IS BULLSHIT AND ANTI-TOWN AND DESERVES A LYNCH TO THE FACE.

But you're only explaining it for Jason. I think you're already 6 feet under with that hole you dug.

[Fate]

.............

[Fate]

PS.. where is everyone else? I begin to tire of you three.

^This is not an apology for failing to notice my sig and acting to the contrary.

Lame lynch or not, he has to go.

WE WIN WHEN ALL DA BAD GUYZ ARE GONE.

Ani you're probably at L-1 and there isn't a sensible townie/scum left alive that won't hammer you, so claim.

[Fate]

I had you pegged as a PR but fuckin hell learn to not be so god damned scummy.

Unvote:
Vote: Sensfan

[Fate]

Yeah let's just say I wouldn't be too surprised if a counter-claim were to appear, but I'll take him off L-1 for now.

[Fate]

Hmmm I never watched The Wire

Did we really just catch scum with a fakeclaim on Page 6?

Really?

Paraphrase flavor, Ani.

[Fate]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Th ... characters

No Al Capone.

Now I could WIFOM this to hell and back about "WHY WOULD SCUM MAKE A FAKECLAIM SO BAD AND OBV?"

And my Jester-O-Meter has risen through the roof because I have VERY RECENT meta that ani is not this terrible at scum.

But....Jester speculation lets scum do whatever the fuck they want, so

Unvote:
Vote: Ani

THE DOCTOR DOES NOT NEED TO CLAIM THANK YOU.

[Fate]

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

WHAT

WHAT?

REALCLAIM NOW???

UH

WHAT?

[Fate]

Flavor.

[Fate]

I had you pegged as a PR but fuckin hell learn to not be so god damned scummy.

Unvote:
Vote: Sensfan

Deja Vu.

[Fate]

Ani how does your role PM state that you are a cop?

[Fate]

Investigator and Snitch - At least 2 players on the Major Case Squad team have the following ability:
Investigator Role PM wrote:
Investigate – Each night, you may PM the mod the name of a player you’d like to investigate. If that player is the Snitch, that player will give up the name of any members of the Barksdale Crew that he knows of. You may only target each player in this manner once.
One player has the following ability:

Is this what you are?

A mod confirmed role to be in the game, and you go and out yourself D1. Heh.

[Fate]

You aswered this earlier by saying "vvvvvvvvvv"
I dont understand that answer, and I would like a real one..

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV (Hint: They are arrows)

[Fate]

Very interesting.. Sotty made some excellent points against him and I would love to see how he defends himself about

A)voting someone he supected a PR all along by the seems of things

B) voting someone he talked about being Jester... knowing a Jesters win condition is to be lynched

A: I could've been wrong, and you can't let someone that was acting like Ani slide no matter WHAT your read on him. He needed votes/

B: The same. If anyone EVER backs down from lynching someone based on Jester speculation they are going to let scum do whatever the fuck they want on this site. Is this even a point against me?



This awesome wagon has provided many reactions though.

[Fate]

Sotty's voting me for the right reasons. My interactions with ani were undoubtedly weird and I was waiting for someone to call me out on them. The fact is that I shouldn't be held accountable with how

WEIRD

ani was acting, so I wasn't really sure how to deal with him. I asked him to clarify his ability because (like the rest of you) I am a PR and needed to see if the structure of his PM matched mine.

Fate wagon is where it's at. Saying you thought someone was a powerrole, fished them out, then when they claimed the wrong thing fished some more? Time to dieeeeeeeeee. Unvote, Vote: Fate (L-2)

The fact that VP doesn't see this makes me

FoS: VP

that and his scummy position on my wagon.

Jebus did nothing but shameless wagon hop, but that's null for now as I have no meta on him and I'm prone to do shameless things myself.

CAMN votes me for.... meta? And her not understanding her question earlier? This coupled with her "IM TOWN IM TOWN" nonsense so far warrants a

FoS: Camn[/]

[Fate]

I don't know what the hell's going on with Sens' meta, but more people than could be his scumbuddies have vouched for him so I'll have to go with a

Unvote:
Vote: VP Baltar

The last few pages have been crazy, but unbelievably informative. Ani, camn, sensfan, cdb and sotty are all town.

I understand a few of these, but CDB? Sensfan? Explain.

[Fate]

I understand a few of these, but CDB? Sensfan? Explain.

Explain to insta-OMGUSing scum who is now claiming 'lulz just playing with ani for reactions and claim check'? Ah, no.

Ah, yes.

This pretty much confirms VP scum to me. He dismissed my vote as OMGUS.

VP, explain why you think analyzing my own wagon, knowing there is likely scum on it, and picking out the scummiest vote as my suspect to vote is scummy?

Because all I see you is throwing buzwords like "OMGUS" and misrepresenting me. When did i say I was just playing with ani? Yes I did claim check ani because he was acting bizarre as hell and I wanted to make sure I wasn't just buying a fakeclaim.

[Fate]

You aswered this earlier by saying "vvvvvvvvvv"
I dont understand that answer, and I would like a real one..

vvvvvvvvvvvvvv (Hint: they are arrows)

ah.
Well, that is a lie. There is a rhyme and a reason to everyone's play. You aren't special. That is just a cop out to avoid explaining yourself. Like a self imposed post restriction (which is jebus btw)

I am not a strict lynch-all-liars type... But I certainly support lynching people who are obstructionist.
If you are going to continue to refuse to answer straight questions, then You are of little help to the town. Thus I am ok with your lynch as of now.

If you are town, How can I convince you to play better?

Also +1 to VP in not explaining townreads. There is really no need.

I am special. You can try and read some of my past games and compare my town play in one to my town play in the other, and you'll find yourself saying "is this really the same player?"

I'm not sure how you keep pushing this "I refuse to answer questions" theory when I haven't done anything of the like. I explained why my "meta was different" from this game and Mixology, because, you know, my meta is ALWAYS different and changing.

[Fate]

VP Baltar is there scum on my wagon?

If so, who?

If ani was clearly town acting dumb what do you think of the

other

votes on Ani? Jason, Deer, etc.

And my analysis is fine. You just piggy backed on Sotty's reasoning to vote me, so don't act like you came up with your own BULLETPROOF SOLID CASE on me.

[Fate]

We can dance all day, please respond to

If ani was clearly town acting dumb what do you think of the other votes on Ani? Jason, Deer, etc.

Unless "Scummy" means they are all scummy, for which you can explain how all three of us scum jumped on that wagon.

Also "no scum on my wagon" is a nice cop out to not analyze it.

[Fate]

Yes, more is clear to me now.
Now we need rest of the players to chime in. Much has happened.

Especially that Delbird guy you think is so awesomely town, I need to distance with him some more in the even of my flip.

[Fate]

Im fine with Fate being lynched. He has completely over reacted and drawing conclusions from little to no information to base it off from. I do not think I am ready for the day to end seeing as we still have time before the deadline and I would like to give enough time for everyone else to say there piece.

Point out my over reactions.
Point out the falsely drawn conclusions.

Where's your vote? Do you think someone will quickhammer me?
Or are you hoping someone else will put me at L-1 so you can stay off this mislynch?

Unvote:
Vote: Raider

[Fate]

Hey Locke thanks for echoing everything everyone else said in this thread.

A+ CONTENT FROM THIS ONE GUYS

Hey VP, it's unlike you not to be on my case all the time, particularly if I haven't posted for a few days. What gives?

"HEY WHY YOU SUSPECTIN ME N SHIT VP WHAT GIVES!? LEAVE ME ALONE!"

FoS: Locke Lamora

(I've almost suspected everyone in this game, I'll get around to Deer somehow, and then that just leaves my scumbuddies.)

CHANNELWUTBIRD? NO U SCUMBAG!

^^ I agree.
He did say he was semi-VLA until tuesday... so I'll give him a day or two, though.

"But I won't unvote Fate after someone scummily pushes his wagon to avoid someone putting Fatetown at L-1 and outing another claim, I'll just "wait and see what happens""
NOTED CAMN.

THE ABOVE WORDS MAY ALSO BE PUT IN LOCKE'S MOUTH.

[Fate]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 24#2296724

However, your play here is wildly different than your play in our short, recently abandoned game.. where you were town?

Why is it different? Could it be that your alignment is different? Is it the lack of Sociopath? Please explain.

Does Fate seem desperate to anyone else?

Ok, so.... camn orginally votes me because I'm not acting as my "town meta" However when I start acting erratic and strange like in the link I have above that camn is using to judge me....camn says "Ok now Fate's acting desperate."
SHE WANTS TO MAKE CAKE AND EAT SAID CAKE.

Actually if Fate does flip scum I think camn is a more likely buddy with how she voted Jebus before jumping on the Fate wagon. Considering she already had aired some doubts about Fate I find that a strange progress.

ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

You could sober up and see how Camn's interaction with my wagon is scummy without her being my partner, and we lynch her today instead.

Unvote:
Vote: camn

And if she's scum raider is probably town for the way she said "I'll give him a day or two and we'll see what happens"<-keeping a raider mislynch open for today in case my rockin' claim gets people off me.

BIRDIE U MAH BUDDY NOT RAIDER DUN PLAY DUM

[Fate]

Sotty being unreasonable is a scum Sotty.

WAS I RITE ABOUT THE GIRL ON GIRL ACTION SCUMTEAM?

WOOOOOOO

A) You were still acting scummy. I wasn't going to vouch for you off of that. And anyway I just realized everyone's a PR so that point is moot anyway >_>

B) My cases are cases. Camn has cognitive dissonance with her, "hey Fate you're acting different, I'll vote you because of meta." "(oh shit Fate's acting the like townFate now) Uhhh Fate's acting desperate!"<-BTW this is the new version of "first one to say someone is flailing is scum" scumtell.


L-1 huh?
I'm not fullclaiming because I'm fine with being the lynch today. In fact I have to be.

The last person to vote me dies. I want camn to hammer me.

[Fate]

I think I need to play in more games with Fate Laughing

I hope this is because you <3 me and not because you think I'm easy to figure out as scum.

LOLONGOINGGAME

Because I'm gonna flip town.

Nameclaim? Where'd I put that damn thing.... Oh wait I'm not claiming because I already said I'm the lynch.

I'm pretty sure with this being a theme game there will be fake claims. His refusal to full claim is more reason to lynch him.

More dissonance. "I'm pretty sure this theme will have fakeclaims ready for scum." "He refuses to fakeclaim he must be scum" WUT.

Sotty or Camn can hammer me, the rest of town can decide who.

[Fate]

No, camn.

[Fate]

Hey Ani you just admitted you believed my bomb claim.

INTERESTING

[Fate]

K fair enough Sotty, I'll full claim after camn agrees/disagrees to hammer me.

Deal?

[Fate]

Its Bomb on IRC, anyway that's not my role name.

It is just one of my abilities.

VP just in case you ego allows you the 5% chance to be wrong, who do you want to hammer?

And no, you can't say raider.

[Fate]

Am I the only one who thinks Fate is probably town? Sheesh.

What the? Have you ever seen me fli-- Oh yeah. Ok you're town then.

Fate - does it only work for lynches?

Wouldn't you like to know.

[Fate]

Between whether scum chooses gets town points for derailing my wagon and then killing me at night, or letting me die here and now because then they'll never get rid of me?

Yeah no thanks.

[Fate]

You're right VP, sorry I have tunnelvision way up here on this L-1 mountain.

Never been lynched as town outside of MyLo/LyLo before. But meh, streaks never last.

But to have my streak broken by ANIMORPH's shenanigans of all people.

Jeez, talk about a blow to my pride.

[Fate]

Ha ha, fate. It was more like this:

camn- Hey fate.. you are acting different. Why is that?
fate- I dont answer questions like that.. cuz I always act different. VV^^--^^VV!
/fate changes his play to conform to his town meta
/camn fails to be impressed
fate - WHOA CAMN! what now?! My meta iz all town!! omg! whyz no unvotz??!

+Funny points
--Town points

Ps. I can't hammer you, I am already voting you.

DODGE

Are you willing to hammer me?

Also, I told you guys Raider was town. Look how reasonable he's being.

[Fate]

I'm right here bitch at a cafe.

Do you read sigs or do you ignore everything that might explain my actions in a town-manner?

NO ONE HAMMER UNTIL I'M DONE TALKING.

I've decided to try, because hell, there's still hope at L-1. Especially with Raider/Deer having faith in me/being scum and knowing I'm town.

THIS NEXT ONE'S FOR MY HOMEBOYS RAIDER AND DEER:

[Fate]

Game Analysis

Sotty Policy Wagon

-Sens, camn, and VP Baltar jump on Sotty at the beginning of the day. Supposedly for vengeance joke reasons, so this is mostly a null-tell. I'll note camn's presence on this wagon though.

-Jebus jumps on after Sotty counter votes. Noted Jebus on first wagon

-Fate comes in and votes camn for said vote as it stuck out to him, jokingly makes a Sotty/Camn scumteam reference.

-Jason comes in and votes Deer and says nothing about the Sotty policy wagon. This begins the Sotty v. Jason meta-debate.

-Locke comes in and RVotes VP for setting up lynches pre-game. No comments on anything else. Null random vote tell

-CDB questions the seriousness of Locke's vote. ++Town

-Sotty votes Jason and begins the "WUT U HAZ NOTHIN TO SAY!" meta-throdown. VP wagons with Sotty

-Camn calls VPB town pretty early -Scum

-Raider comes in, random votes, Null

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Sotty... I didn't react to the wagon, well because I thought VP was joking to get the game going. I didn't realize he was serious until after my first post were he started giving out links to past games.

-Jason's response to Sotty. Doesn't seem genuine. I would ALWAYS comment on a longtime meta-friend's wagon. -Slight Scum

Deer VS. Animorph

Deer posts his joke/dumb content that he would not scumhunt all game. Ani is the first to call him out on this and votes him.
-Camn wagon hops onto Ani, 2nd large wagon camn has been on.
-Ani pushes Deer further and says "vote stays" after Deer explains joke/
-VPB calls camn out for her shameless wagoning. ++Town
-Fate quotes VP's line and votes camn for said shameless wagoning
-camn calls herself obvtown and says that Fate is doing VP's dirty work for him (instead of acknowledging that Fate can have his own opinions, apparently)-Scum
-Deer jumps on for the parentheses that I never posted, so he was the first to point this out++Town
-CDB votes me for post #78, Btw. Later says it was for following VP's vague meta (I was following my own meta of camn, btw)
-Sotty shows the meta-evidence and makes NO COMMENTS on Deer, Camn, Ani, etc. -Scum
-Jason retorts Sotty and makes no comments. -Scum

-VP takes sotty's side
-"I don't know which side to take"-ani-Scum

-CDB calls for my wagon.

-BLAH BLAH ANI PUSHES DEER WAYYYYY TOO HARD BLAH
-Camn switches from voting with ani to voting Ani.-Scum (which I call out in the next post)
-SensFan votes with Camn on ani
-Fate goes from voting Camn to agreeing with her and voting ani for his tunneling
-Deer finally jumps on ani a little bit late. Pretty opportunistic -Scum
-Camn calls ani getting scummier by the post-NOTED CAMN BELIEVES ANI TO BE ACTING LEGITMATELY SCUMMY FOR LATER
-Jason finally comments on all the happenings, but stays off the ani wagon and votes SensFan instead for calling camn obvtown.+town
-Jason is pushed to vote ani by more BS from ani

WAIT FOR MORE POSTIES:

[Fate]

Wait what the hell am I doing?

Did I do something pro-town while LA and somehow avoid L-1?
Let me go re-read the last few pages before I continue analyzing 13 pages when I only have so long on the computer...

[Fate]

Tunneling is particularly pro-town Sens, thanks for your contribution. Since I'm commenting on the whole game you'd think you would read my posts to look for any connections.

--Scum Sens

[Fate]

I read the last couple of pages, and all I have to say is: JUST AS PLANNED.

If raider's the only one that can see the pro-town motivations for claiming bomb as town that's fine. I got all the reads I need right now and THEN SOME.

I have a new suspect now as interesting things have happened (sorry camn).

FTR claiming bomb as scum is bad play. It makes you the DEFINITE lynch of the day, with the 2nd scummiest person hammering you, or your partner bussing you with a hammer to look like they weren't afraid of the bomb. (which is also bad if people see through it).

FTR camn says bomb is unlynchable in LyLo, WHAT? It basically gives town TWO lynches at LyLo, either two people blow up, or the fakeclaim scumbomb gets the lynch.

K now going to analyze Deer's fear of hammering me.

[Fate]

Fate Wagon

-Camn switches off the main wagon post-claim and votes a lurker
-Sotty *starts* the Fate wagon (CDB was the first vote but Sotty gave reasoning for people to latch on to. None of Sotty's reasons for voting me are particularly strong scumtells, and also pretty misrepresented.

For, shameless wagoning, having someone “pegged” as a PR but not unvoting and instead asking for a claim, fishing for a counterclaim, revoting while talking about Jesters to give himself an out when ani flips town. (sorry guys I thought he was a jester!

1. Other people shamlessly wagonned, but voting ani for what town consensus was was tunneling scummily is NOT shamelessly wagoning. I thought ani was being too scummy to be scum and was a PR, but "too scummy to be scum" is NOT a valid reason to unvote someone. Ani's claim was weird as fuck cause if you need a refresher he claimed AL CAPONE DOCTOR, then changed it, so you I wanted clarification. (Shoulda seprated the points but got carried away).

-Deer unvtoes Ani, but doesn't revote anyone
-CDB calls Deer out for this +Town
-

Leaving my vote on ani since there's nowhere better to put it right now.
Deer, grow a pair and vote someone.

DISSONANCE. He agrees with Deer there's nowhere else to put it, yet leaves it on a wagon that's already led to a claim and won't be the likely lynch. --HUGESCUMTELL
-Jason votes SensFan for his camntown nonsense and NOT the dissonance above. Meh
-Deer calls Jason's vote rolefishing, (which I think is subtle rolefishing from the person itself) --Scum
-Raider unvotes ani and doesn't move it anywhere. Sens does NOT call him out on this.
-CAMN votes Fate for refusing to answer her meta question, and not because of agreeing with Sotty or anything else? LAME WAGON HOP (wagon counter: #4) -Scum
-VP puts me at L-2, parroting Sotty's reasoning. -Nullwagoning
-Raider at FIRST says he's fine with my lynch for all my BS, but doesn't vote. Noted for later
-Deer votes Raider with me for the same reasons -nullwagon
-Locke Lamora comes in, pushes my wagon as well without voting. --SCUM
-Locke says Raider's wagon endorsement without a vote is as horrible as it gets, yes does the same EXACT THING--- DISSONANCE+DISTANCING HUGESCUMTELL
-ani puts me at L-1 for same reasoning as Sotty -nullWagon

NOW TO THE GOOD STUFF POST-BOMB CLAIM:

[Fate]

Fate Wagon

-Camn switches off the main wagon post-claim and votes a lurker
-Sotty *starts* the Fate wagon (CDB was the first vote but Sotty gave reasoning for people to latch on to. None of Sotty's reasons for voting me are particularly strong scumtells, and also pretty misrepresented.

For, shameless wagoning, having someone “pegged” as a PR but not unvoting and instead asking for a claim, fishing for a counterclaim, revoting while talking about Jesters to give himself an out when ani flips town. (sorry guys I thought he was a jester!

1. Other people shamlessly wagonned, but voting ani for what town consensus was was tunneling scummily is NOT shamelessly wagoning. I thought ani was being too scummy to be scum and was a PR, but "too scummy to be scum" is NOT a valid reason to unvote someone. Ani's claim was weird as fuck cause if you need a refresher he claimed AL CAPONE DOCTOR, then changed it, so you I wanted clarification. (Shoulda seprated the points but got carried away).

-Deer unvtoes Ani, but doesn't revote anyone
-CDB calls Deer out for this +Town
-

Leaving my vote on ani since there's nowhere better to put it right now.
Deer, grow a pair and vote someone.

DISSONANCE. He agrees with Deer there's nowhere else to put it, yet leaves it on a wagon that's already led to a claim and won't be the likely lynch. --HUGESCUMTELL
-Jason votes SensFan for his camntown nonsense and NOT the dissonance above. Meh
-Deer calls Jason's vote rolefishing, (which I think is subtle rolefishing from the person itself) --Scum
-Raider unvotes ani and doesn't move it anywhere. Sens does NOT call him out on this.
-CAMN votes Fate for refusing to answer her meta question, and not because of agreeing with Sotty or anything else? LAME WAGON HOP (wagon counter: #4) -Scum
-VP puts me at L-2, parroting Sotty's reasoning. -Nullwagoning
-Raider at FIRST says he's fine with my lynch for all my BS, but doesn't vote. Noted for later
-Deer votes Raider with me for the same reasons -nullwagon
-Locke Lamora comes in, pushes my wagon as well without voting. --SCUM
-Locke says Raider's wagon endorsement without a vote is as horrible as it gets, yes does the same EXACT THING--- DISSONANCE+DISTANCING HUGESCUMTELL
-ani puts me at L-1 for same reasoning as Sotty -nullWagon

NOW TO THE GOOD STUFF POST-BOMB CLAIM:

[Fate]

OD FUCKING DAMN IT MS THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE SLOW AS HELL>

I HAVE 15 MINS LEFT ON MY LAPTOP BECAUSE THIS BOOKSTORE IS TOO FUCKING CHEAP THEY DONT HAVE OUTLETS ANYMORE I CANT CHARGE IT.

I CAN POST ON MY PHONE BUT I CANT POST WALLS.

AAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHH.

Ftr I was only able to catch up in this game because of this bullshit. You guys better feel special.

I WILL be back once my lap top is charged.

Final notes:
In my next wall I was going to talk about how Deer's "I think he's town I don't want to hammer him" "MAKE RAIDER HAMMER HIM PLEZ!" "WHY CANT YOU GUYS LYNCH WHO YOU THINK IS SCUMMY THIS IS TERRIBLE!" <- This is scum trying to avoid hammering the bomb. He gives the excuse he thinks Im town to avoid hammering me, but doesn't actively try to defuse my lynch, he instead just rages that someone else should be made to hammer me.

Unvote:
Vote: Deer

I'm Detective something Freamon (all I remember) and I am not a day-bomb.

[Fate]

God damn, fucking book stores.

At a different one but since it took me so long to figure out the Wifi I have 10mins before work.

Deer is supposedly unlynchable but he was scared to hammer a bomb?

Meh, I'm not reading this as the "fakeBS get reactions" line of thinking I did.

Wait for Jason and friends before hammering please.

[Fate]

Sotty hasn't commented on the Deer wagon at all, and is in her own words "content with a Fate lynch."

Why is that Sotty?
Do you think Deer's reluctance comes from a townie frame of mind, if so how?

I'm still reasonably suspicious of jason and hopes he gets his connection back soon so I can get more of a read on him. Ani is likely town, I wish CDB was around little more but I have felt towniess from him. Fate is right in that Deer has been calling him town with little reasoning and yet isn't arguing strongly against his lynch. I had to look to see who he was voting because he isn't pushing much of a case on anything. Almost like he is content with a Fate lynch.

Hmmm actually she did say this. Last minute distancing FTW.

No townpoints awarded to Sotty if she hammers her buddy.

[Fate]

Also

Mod: my LA is not vacation but I will have Limited Access for the next two weeks. As you can see this you won't need to replace my super-awesome active playslot. The LA is more of a note to my fellow players that if I'm gone for a day or two which is uncharacteristic of me they know why.

Also I apologize to camn and the mod. I like to be abrasive but I feel I went a bit too far with that one, I'll tone it down. RL Stress isn't helping

[Fate]

We know fate lied about his claim, so why not lynch him?

What's the scum motivation for claiming bomb again? ....and then later admitting he lied? VP your tunneling makes no sense from town given you recent posts of "letting Deer look more and more scummy before Fate admits he lied." Doesn't that imply we're not scum together?

Sotty is also content with my lynch due to meta.... (a FALSE meta at that, since the game she is referring to I was lynched in abstenia, and the OTHER game I was with her in I made crazy posts as TOWN). Her "if he was my buddy I'd bus him" claim is just pure WIFOM.

The fact that neither of them want to hear my realclaim and just lynch me quickstyle just makes me *Facepalm* because I'm pretty sure they BOTH aren't scum. Oh and CDB is no better either.


Ok a few things can happen today anyway:
1. Deer is unlynchable (Deer I'd like a full claim please. This is a mafia based on a TV SHOW WITH DETECTIVES, who the hell makes sense as unlynchable?) We lynch him and he is basically confirmed town. (And must be killed be scum at one point.)
2. We lynch Deer and he flips scum. WE get one scum and I'm basically confirmed (since Deer believed my bomb claim, and if he was buddy he would've just hammered me). ++Goodness
3. We lynch me, a vig shoots Deer (who MIGHT just be confirmable town) and we lose awesome-Fate and his sweet sweet abilities.

Yeah camn said me to it so I'm just expounding a bit on those 3 to show everyone else how much sense it makes.

[Fate]

You go VLA for a fucking week and my "dissappering when the heat is on" is SUSPECT? We were both LA, so don't pull that card on me.


Also claiming BOMB is not to make people afraid to hammer. Since Sotty and the like thought I was obvscum why didn't they just hammer it knowing that I was probably lying? They were afraid because of the very high chance I was town.

And thanks to my fakeclaim we outed Deer who was afraid to hammer me.

Also "not buying my claim" are you reading? I haven't claimed yet.

If you can't see the difference between mine and Deer's claim at L-1 then you are not thinking with a pro-town mindset.

Jason, respond to THESE POINTS AND WHY THEY DON'T WORK:

Ok a few things can happen today anyway:
1. Deer is unlynchable (Deer I'd like a full claim please. This is a mafia based on a TV SHOW WITH DETECTIVES, who the hell makes sense as unlynchable?) We lynch him and he is basically confirmed town. (And must be killed be scum at one point.)
2. We lynch Deer and he flips scum. WE get one scum and I'm basically confirmed (since Deer believed my bomb claim, and if he was buddy he would've just hammered me). ++Goodness
3. We lynch me, a vig shoots Deer (who MIGHT just be confirmable town) and we lose awesome-Fate and his sweet sweet abilities.

Keeping your options open with "I could lynch either today, but I rather Fate" makes me think Deer is actually town and unlynchable, so lynching him to confirm him is the RIGHT play today.

Everyone wanting to lynch me today instead of Deer, because "zomglol Fate is so obvscum" are so arrogant they are ignoring the CORRECT PLAY, and D2 everyone will go "WALP Fate wuz town! oopz. NOW lets lynch Deer." Scum are going to win this game with this mindset.

[Fate]

But this could be because he didnt want to hammer his scum partner and exposed you both as scum

Lol? Read his posts. Does he not want to hammer me because he's my buddy or because he's scared of the hammer? He was FINE with my lynch (i.e. if he was my buddy he would have just hammered me) he just wasn't FINE with being the hammer.

As for the AtE, no, I have abilities (like everyone else), I just like to think mine are a bit more "Sane" with its results (i.e. not unreliable).

I beg to differ, bomb is a fear to hammer... it will make people fearful of hammering you for the reason they will be taken out too... yes, I do believe it exposed scum deer

Why would Sotty and friends be afraid to hammer me since they are so "sure" I'm scum? (aka not a bomb?). If Sotty wanted my lynch THAT badly (back then) she could've said "Fuck this I'll hammer there's no way Fate is town" BUuuuuutttt they went with the easy out, "in case he's town we'll just get someone else to hammer me." All this implies that I'm not as "obvscum lynch of the day" material as people think I am.

1) Then you should be for lynching Deer over me. Don't you see how confirming town is more valuable than taking a shot in the dark (D1 lynch) on me?
2) LOL. So now you believe I am the scum bomb and Deer didn't want to blow himself up on me? Then what do you make of me claiming not really day bomb?
3) See above.

Jason's line of thinking is about as convoluted as Deer's when it comes to my claim. I swear I keep seeing scum with every post I guess that's just me though.

[Fate]

To clarify #2) Your theory that both Deer and I are scum requires me to STILL be a bomb, and that I lied recently about NOT being one, thoughts?

Also if both Deer and I are scum, how do you not see that lynching Deer is the preferred play today due to his unlynchable claim over my "Night action info role" that I claimed?

[Fate]

Jason refuses to take a hard stance on this issue like Deer.

"No I don't believe you are the bomb"
"But were you lying? Are you the bomb? IF yes, Then Deer is your scumbuddy/"

No, I dont beleive you are the bomb... But I can see it being used as an excuse not to hammer. Especially by scum.. And this does make me see Deer as scum

So, if I'm reading you right, Deerbuddy is using my bomb fakeclaim as an excuse not to hammer me?

Then why was he fine with someone else hammering me? (Raider I believe it was?)

But I guess you're gone now *sigh* Anyone else want to come try and convince me why Deer shouldn't be lynched today for that claim?

[Fate]

Why is me being town unfortunate VP? Am I really that terrible?

I thought my bomb claim was reaction fishing gold, but hey I guess I'm just biased.

SEE YA TMORRAH

[Fate]

I'm waiting for you to say bah go scum myself.

If you're somehow town want to explain why you tipped your hand and claimed 1shkt unlynchable? Now someone useful is going to die tonight

[Fate]

Sotty, what do you think of Jason after his catchup post?

Less night talk speculation please.

[Fate]

K that was posting from my phone.

THIS IS ME POSTING IN FULL SWING BABY:

COME OUT AND PLAYYYYYYY SOTYYYYYY!!!!
AHHAHAHAHAHA

[Fate]

Also I KNEW VP was off with how badly he wanted me dead in spite of me being obvtown.

He didn't care who died, the bastard!

*spits on his grave*

[Fate]

Not scummy enough for a vote though Sotty?

I mean hell, we're no in LyLo or anything.

[Fate]

Well you're here and you're likely Jason's buddy.

I mean, fuck, I usually draw this out for awhile and make scum play hopscotch with me, but with LA I can't really afford to so I'll go ahead and:


AHAHAHHGHAHHWHAHAHA VP YOU DID KNOW WHO SCUM WERE DIDN'T YOU!?!? I KNOW EXACTLY WHICH ONE TOO.

[Fate]

I'm glad to see Jason posting more now and that makes me feel better about him at the moment.

TRIED TO BUDDY UP TO HIM A LITTLE TOO LATE IN THE DAY! YOUR EARLIER SUSPICION OF HIM GOT YOU WTFKILLED.

SCUM YOU'LL REGRET KILLING OFF YOUR OWN SURVIVOR AND NOT DEER WHO'S BASICALLY CONFIRMED NOW>


AHAHWHAHHAHAAAAAAAAA.

SOTTY YOUR LIL DISTANCING SPAT WITH JASON EARLIER WON'T FOOL MEEEEEE

[Fate]

OOPS I LEFT THE BEST PART OUT OF MY LAST POST:

Vote: Jason

GUILTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

CLAIM IN YOUR NEXT POST PLEASE, I WANNA SEE WHAT KINDA FAKECLAIMS SCUM HAVE.

[Fate]

Locke your post is missing a: "Hey that's cool that Jason is scum."

Good thing you're town and all.

[Fate]

Anyway I think that quote got VP killed because he was suspicious of Jason, even though he later tried to backtrack and say "I FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOU JASON DON'T KILL ME!"

But what the fuck does it matter really?

Town-near confirmed
Fate
Deer
Ani

Town
Locke
Camn
Sens

Everyone Else
Jebus
Raider
Sotty

LOOKS LIKE AN UPHILL BATTLE FOR SCUM.

(I like how Sotty checked out of the thread)

[Fate]

Oh nvm there she is.

And she's still toying with the idea of Fatescum after I claimed a guilty on Jason?

Mehhhh, I have to re-read the first post to see if there are mod-confirmed only two investigators.

[Fate]

Jason, come on now.

I'll give you hope:

There's ONE particular thing you can claim to have done last night that would make my guilty null.

Cross your fingers and claim?

And if you're SOMEHOW MIRACULOUSLY town, claim so this wagon can turn around.

[Fate]

I think that is something you would want to share right away

You've never played with me before, that's ok.

Man if I wasn't LA right now I woulda drawn you out for a WEEK at least before I came down with the hammer that you were guilty.

Long days help town. Early guilties make days shorter.

DO THE MATH SCUM.

[Fate]

HEY CAMN IF YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION THIS IS DGB'S TRADEMARK "STALLING FOR THE CLAIM" SCUMTELL!

AHAHHAHAHAHAH

[Fate]

K my read on Sotty is complete.

She's town. (Yeah I read Gonzo mafia, what's your point?)

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Updated (Cause I forgot that one scum CDB:)

WE KNOW THAT JASON WAS SCUM OFF THE FATE WAGON AND THAT VP IS DEAD AND THAT SOTTY AND ANI WERE TOWN. THAT DOESN'T LEAVE MANY PEOPLE:::

Town
Ani
Sotty
Fate
Deer

Townish
Locke
Camn
Sensfan

Scummmz
TacoDelScum (on Fate wagon) <----VERY HIGH % OF BEING SCUM. LOOK AT TOMORROW.
Jebus (on Fate wagon)
Raider (off Fate wagon)

[Fate]

Fate from yesterdays play... and given the fact Deer was telling the Truth makes things even more bad for Fate in my eyes.

+

I HAVE A GUILTY ON JASON

+
[Lack of Vote]

LOL IS THIS THE KIND OF FUNNY YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT?

We have this game wrapped up. Locke quit being a dumbass, I AM GOING INTO A 1v1 WITH JASON IF HE FLIPS TOWN I'LL SELF-VOTE TOMORROW.

[Fate]

Jason I am fucking LA and my battery is dying.

If you are town your realclaim will CLEAR YOU.

CLAIM NOW OR DIE WHILE I'M LA

[Fate]

I have thirty mins left on my on my LA.

There is literally only 1% Jason is town ESPECIALLY with [REDACTED] floating around, there's no way he's going to get lucky and fakeclaim correctly to align with the info I have.

Also I rather be able to lynch him without fullclaiming the specifics of my guitly so I can catch MOAR SCUMZ tomorrow (you numbskulls are going to protect me, right? I am 1000 times more valuable than Deer confirmed town)

[Fate]

WE GET IT SENS JESUS CHRIST.

WHY DIDN'T YOU PLAY LIKE THIS IN PYPIII WHAT THE HELL MAN?

[Fate]

Uhhhhhhhhhh

I just mixed up Sando and SensFan
<_<
>_>

Ok now Sens makes sense. (WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE WHO SCUM-JASON THINKS IS SCUM ANYWAY?)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANd that's TIME!

I won't be back until Thursday at the soonest. Lynch Jason regardless of claim, there's really no way he's town.

[Fate]

I'm not sure what the fuck Jason just claimed, so I'll go ahead and say, yeah he's going to flip scum.

[Fate]

Thank god only ani died.

[Fate]

Where's my list?

Vote: ChannelDelbird

I'm down with this.

[Fate]

I'll do whatever camn says. I voted CDB because we had NTOHING from his slot on a day we lynched scum, oh joy.

But sens and her claiming because Jason suspecting them is pretty sad....

Unvote:
Vote: Jebus

[Fate]

CDB I want your apology immediately if you no longer think I'm scum or even consider it.
Is getting a guilty and then living the night not suspicious?

yeah I still like CDB as scum.

[Fate]

Why hasn't Jebus been lynched yet?

NOW'S THE TIME TO BUS PEOPLE.

[Fate]

Don't make me start tunneling you again Sotty, IF I HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE ILL DO IT WHEN I PLEASE.

[Fate]

CLAIM TIME BABY THIS GAME NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD

[Fate]

Hope he goes away?

[Fate]

We can lynch Deer while we wait because he already claimed?

But didn't the Lt. Daniels guy show up in the mod scene at the end of D1 and basically confirm Deer?

The hell do I know about flavor?

I got stop signing up for these things.

Oh, or we could lynch CDB who's excuse is LOL WORLD CUP. MSUTILS INCOMING

[Fate]

My fucking god.

CDB has posted EXTENSIVELY in a PRE-GAME CONFIRMATION NEWBIE THREAD.

I demand this lynch be turned the fuck around

Unvote:
Vote: ChannelDeliBird

[Fate]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 11&t=14276

There ya go. Use MSUtils. It shows him posting in there with his "sorry guys I'm reading up" post SANDWICHED inbetween his newbie thread posts.

[Fate]

Are you seriously reading the same game I linked?

He's SCUMHUNTING in that game.

He's doing NOTHING here.

[Fate]

Sens are you confirmed Masons?

[Fate]

Channel just wants to sit on the popular wagon after TWO DAYS of not contribution. He has no other suspects or thoughts on the game.

I'm slighting your character, deal with it. You have time for the newbies BUT you don't even seem to have time to pop in here and say "yeah Jebus is a fine lynch sure" which is all you can contribute?

[Fate]

I have a case on CDB, he's done nothing pro-town.

D1 he tunneled me, D2 he was absent while we were lynching scum, D3 he is lurking with no contributions other than to say he likes the Jebus wagon (without voting Jebus).

So what reeks town to you?

Jebus ON THE OTHER HAND, actually freakin hammered Deer and ended that godawful day when he could've sat on the Fate wagon at the time (mislynching me would have been SWEET for scum since then I wouldn't have outed Jason)

[Fate]

PLAN SUCESSFUL.

UNVOTE

I GET TO HAMMARRRRRR

[Fate]

Claim, not catch up.

[Fate]

I mean you haven't lived until you've seen Fate with a hammer.

I'M VERY IMPATIENT.

[Fate]

Oh I actually read your post.

This week-end?

LOL YOU WISH.

[Fate]

I think he's gone camn.

If I hammer without a claim will you have my back tomorrow?

I really really want to.

[Fate]

I'm leaving in 30mins or so don't worry I'll get to it.

[Fate]

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Jebus that is not a claim.

Thanks for playing

vote: Jebus

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Blame the phone I'm on for weird tags

[Fate]

Fuck

Vote: jebus

[Fate]

One of camn or sens better flip tonight.

That's all I'm sayin.

6 scum huh? So we got three, and we got four PR claims+me as town.' Which means CDB is DEFINITELY scum, Locke is scum, and one of Sotty and Raider are lying about investigator. Oh well there's Deer too

CROSS FINGERS FOR THE CROSS KILL BABY

YAY MY FIRST SCUM HAMMER! USUALLY I START THOSE WAGONS

[Fate]

Well let's just say optimal or typical mason play isnt HAY GUYZ LOOK AT US WERE CONFIRMED TOWN.

But meh, I didn;t throw you on my scum list so you better take me off your idiot list.

[Fate]

Nah, you're town. I'm just trying to shed doubt so maybe you won't be Nightkilled.


JEEZ READ BETWEEN THE LINES MAN

[Fate]

oh I figured the secret info was just a clever way of saying WHEN I DIE SENS WILL BE CONFIRMED AS TOWN KEKEKEK.

But yeah that sounds like a pretty powahful role.

[Fate]

It looks like the rules allow it so I'll go ahead and say.

FUCKIN'
BAHHHHHH
HUMBUG.

Go Survivors.

[Fate]

OWNED SCUM OWNED

[Fate]

And yeah I got an innocent on CDB N2 and STILL wanted his ass lynched.

Hey no worries about killing me, there was no way you were going to get me lynched anyway.

[Fate]

The set-up was good. I figured scum was in one of the investigator claims until CDB came along with that vig claim >_>

*slap Sens* BAD SENS.

I still have no idea what show is about or even what channel it is on so I can't comment on that
<_<

The masons might've been a bit too much. NEIGHBORS maybe, which would've stopped them from claiming in thread AND opened up the possibility that I would get a "guilty" on them by wiretapping them, (I was pretty suspicious of camn back in the day).

What don't you comprehend about my play? The bomb claim? >_> I think it all worked out in the end.

Also reading the QT was funny. Thought I'd be insta-lynched D2 did ya? *grin*

[Fate]

*puts it on his to do list*

Will do.

(its #14 btw, I got lots of stuff to do) >_>

<_<

So how about that Ghana team?

>_>