Of Gods And Men (GAME OVER!)

[Elscouta]

vote: DTMaster

Bandwagon gogogo.

[Elscouta]

What are you saying? I don't see any vote weirdness...

[Elscouta]

Geez....

Okay, then because i'm lazy, i'm now suspecting Faraday.

gogogo Faraday wagon.

[Elscouta]

I must say I'm tempted to vote for Elscouta. The contradiction between his location and his signature is glaring at me.

I don't see what you are meaning by that.

>.>

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[Elscouta]

About gods :

I agree that setup speculation might lead to rolefishing.

But,

I don't think this game was designed so that we would worship random gods, meaning that there is probably a way for the town to choose the right gods. And i feel that enabling the worship abilities of the correct persons will be quite important.

So, I'd be up for a first round of worship claiming :

If you had to worship one group, now, which one would it be? (don't explain why, just give one)

I feel that it would be hard for scum to narrow power roles thanks to this, but it should give us some information, at least for later (especially when scums start to flip). Nobody should answer the question until some consensus have been made on this proposal, though.

[Elscouta]

Hmm. Lots of posting this night.

Various things of note :

ABR:

I'm fine with him directing worship votes for the early game. However, it comes without saying that he will need to provide more information later on.

Icerint:

His attack on mina feels forced. I don't really see much weight in his accusations.

Mighty Orbits

: 155 is horrible. A random vote at this stage? Complaining about noise in the last 6 page, and adding more instead of contributing? Fence-sitting on ABR? Nah,

Unvote, Vote: Fate

(Mighty Orbits)

Chronopie:

I'm wary of him. He is voting MO, which is a good point, but i feel he is a bit following the town in this game. 179 looked to me especially like going for the easy target.

Parama:

Actually I am 100% serious. Fate is definitely 3rd-party.

This needs explanation. Not necessary a claim, but if you have reliable information (and not gut) that he is 3rd-party, we will have to look at this seriously.

[Elscouta]

TOWN STOP: ELSCOUTA ARE YOU A VOTE STEALER YOU SCUMMY SCUMMY SCUMM ???

The names that are listed on the votecount are those before the shift, while the numbers give the number of vote after the shift, hence the discrepancy.

[Elscouta]

@Mod :

Unless i messed up, my vote is on Fate.

Nope, my fault, didn't see the vote. Try to keep votes in the left margin as when I scroll pages generally I look for red in the left margin. The rest of the VC looks good though.

[Elscouta]

For dramonic, DTMaster, and others that didn't bother to read the previous pages :

THE NAMES THAT ARE DISPLAYED ARE THE VOTES THAT HAVE BEEN CAST BY PLAYERS (BEFORE THE SHIFT). THE NUMBERS ARE THOSE AFTER THE SHIFT.

[Elscouta]

Uh, you mean the one where she asks about O and DTM's roles, then criticized cautioned someone else for making a plan that might lead to rolefishing?

Yes. Although, rereading your iso and my notes, it seems I had confused Mina with Fate in the last pages, which is why I thought you were tunelling on mina too much.

I guess the fact that I read the thread a bit fast is now spoiled :/

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I still really like my vote on Mighty Orbots, and I'd like a bit more votes in this direction.

Finally, succintness is pro-town. Quote walls are depressing.

[Elscouta]

What do you find scummy in Ortolan?

Btw, MO wagon is a good one. I have heard they will give cookies to everyone on it.

[Elscouta]

Thank you Parama for this great contribution. If you ever stop to post one-liners, maybe you could explain yourself.

[Elscouta]

I already pointed out his worst post, i'll recap his iso for you.

iso 1-3 : nothing, rvs.
iso 4 : a big post full of nothing. weak wagon pushing, some setup speculations. a lot of words to take space.
iso 5 : his worst post. we are already really out of rvs, real accusations have been made, and he rvs Tar, casts some weak suspicion on ABR and complains about how the previous pages are noise.
iso 6 could be summed up as "can we all be friends?"
iso 7 is okay.
iso 8-12 are just posting for the sake of posting.
iso 13 has a little content : MO calls mina town.
iso 14-15 are again filler.

To sum up : MO has posted a lot, most of it being filler. He weakly pushes against DTM because of his crazy posting, and at least one of his post is awful.

This is enough for a bandwagon, in my book.

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@Fate :

I have seen ortolan post. I just want to know why you consider it suspicious.

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Els, you're scum. I already said why.

K. Wake me up when you mount a real case than "being cautious".

[Elscouta]

@SpyreX:

Can you sum up your case on Mina. Reading your iso, I don't see anything else than "not receiving good vibes"

@Mighty Orbots:

Did you read my post 331? Why did you ignore it?

[Elscouta]

On Elscouta

I'm fine with him directing worship votes for the early game. However, it comes without saying that he will need to provide more information later on.

I'm a bit concerned about your quick trust of ABR. Why are you comfortable with this?

I already said I believe it is in the town interest to have the worship votes in the good place. As I am currently in the dark regarding this area, anything that helps the town worshipping the correct gods is something I like.

Also, I liked how ABR formulated his plan, as giving a set of acceptable worships instead of a single group. As I feel likely that scums are either all in one group, or shared among all groups, this plan didn't look like one that scum would have proposed.

Finally, the plan will probably lead to a full claim by ABR in the reasonable future, and he will have to provide a good reason for having pushed his plan. Until that time, i'm ready to let him partially direct worship votes.

I'm also concerned by Elscouta's vote not being affected.

As far as I know, my vote is being affected by Delirium.

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Now, regarding your latest post, I still dislike the reasons for the Mina bandwagon. I don't see how "asking how someone joined the game" would be something that scum is more likely to do than town. The whole case looks more like a "lynch everyone asking questions" policy than an analysis of motivations behind the question.

[Elscouta]

V/LA Notice : Serious real life issues have been impairing my access and will probably continue to impair it until Thursday. I apologize to everyone.

Noted.

[Elscouta]

I worshipped The Old Gods.

I'm also quite pissed at Snow_Bunny for shooting the most townie player.

Vote : Snow_Bunny

I would also like ortolan's replacement to explain why yesterday lynch didn't occur. Tar's auto-replacing SKs are coming to my mind.