@Debonair Danny DiPietro, the main purpose of the plan is to demonstrate to the town that Fishythefish shouldn't be trusted to to act in the town's best interest. If we're not lynching him today then without something like that I don't see any reason to think that we'll be doing it later either and I don't think that we want to have someone who we know isn't town and hasn't been completely upfront with us around indefinitely.
@Fishythefish, it would surprise me a fair amount if scum roleblocked you over investigative roles; the mislynch you're talking about is too easy to find other places but being investigated in some way is something that scum certainly want to avoid. On the other hand, I do believe that you'd be worried about your competing factions roleblocking you if you thought there was any reason to think they might have that ability. You don't think that do you?
I've also got another theory as to why might prefer to be lynched and waste the town's action for a day. If you were surprised to learn that your action last night targeted RedCoyote it seems pretty safe to assume that you don't know who it targeted yourself. You also don't seem to want to target Gammagooey with anything tonight (or else you could target him with some other ability while your partner(s) took care of the transmission.) I'm wondering if you don't have one shot weak track that you don't learn anything about and then a one shot transmit to be used later to try to get that to someone else.
@LlamaFluff, at this point I'm pretty convinced that Chronopie isn't likely to be on the same faction as Fishythefish. I don't think that he'd focus in the way that he did; I'm not at all convinced that an other faction like the one it looks like we're working with can afford to bus like that if there are other options (which there should be.) I also don't think that he was just taking a guess that Fishythefish was other as the claim he's made since would be too dangerous to try to keep faking on his own. He could be getting the information from someone else in a quick topic which would explain the delay but that seems overly complicated to be worth doing and the window is pretty small for that to have happened given the timing of the posts at the start of the day. At this point I do believe that he's probably telling the truth about the town/not-town cop ability.
I'm not convinced that it particularly means that he needs to be town though. I'm not at all sure that scum wouldn't want to reveal that information at the time he did (again, there weren't a lot of kills night one so scum would probably have reason to show that they're helping the town by sharing when he did as they shouldn't be overly concerned about it leading to a night kill from an other group and would be more interested in having their day game get the cred.) I can also think of some other win conditions where it might be helpful though there is a bit more danger there.
He certainly could be town; it's the most likely way for this to play out as of now I think. On the other hand, I don't feel at all bad about having asked about the details of his claim. I'm not just going to blindly accept what people say; this is a game of mafia after all.
@Ellibereth, I recall being unhappy with how your hammered because of claim related issues and I recall being unhappy with how SFG told everyone exactly what she was expecting them to do when she made her claim in LyLo but I don't recall us particularly disagreeing.
@Jack, DrippingGoofball might expect me to talk my way out of a lynch today. Why would you expect that of me? I did get a chance to look at d3x; he strikes me as unhelpful more than anything else and a good part of that is probably just his overall style (of which I've seen a bit previously.) He'd be a decent lynch but I'd prefer Nicodeum or popsofctown less and would say that Shotty to the Body is at about the same level.
@StrangerCoug, out of curiosity, what was it about the posts that DrippingGoofball linked that convinced you that I'm a hostile other and that I'm a better lynch than, say Nicodemus today? It seems that you agree with her that I'm not mafia. Was it the part where she accused me of ignoring her analysis just after I'd made a post saying I'd be giving a defense shortly? Was it the part where she tried to use my not denying that I'm a Serial Killer as a point against me right after I'd explained why it was I picked town for my alignment? Is it that you agree with her that I've been coasting and fake scum hunting all game?
@DrippingGoofball, I'm still trying to figure out why it is that you're kitchen sinking me here. I've seen you after me before (in
Tofu Mafia but there you were doing more to try to figure things out; you wavered at times. Here your latching onto anything that might be used to attack me. The idea that I think there are too many power roles is an example (I was pretty clearly saying that we've got a lot of investigative role claims out already and that we probably shouldn't assume that they're all town) as well as all the things that I asked StrangerCoug about. Your choice of terms clearly shows that you do keep in mind the conversations that we've had in the past (curmudgeonly, drunk on the cider, etc.) but you're sticking hard to a read of my play that isn't likely, doesn't really fit the pattern of kills we've had and which simply isn't true in this case. I find it puzzling.
@Gammagooey, just to confirm here, the main source of your gut hate of me just now is that I helped get a wagon started on Phate and then was dissapointed when it faded away sooner than I thought that it should but that I didn't follow up on the voters who left it? I sort of think that your experience with me in
Mafia Reverberation might be leaving you with an inherently distrustful take on me that could be coloring your opinion. Do you think that's at all likely to be the case?
@everyone, if we're not interested in lynching Fishythefish today then I could probably get behind lynching Nicodemus. The timing and strength of the reaction to Chronopie's "Fishythefish isn't town" does look pretty bad and in general he hasn't been doing anything that makes me think he's trying to help the town. I sort of think that people should be complaining at least as much about Shotty to the Body as they are about farside22 at this point. His stance seems pretty similar, he's just been less around. Actually less around is a great description of him in general. I'm also pretty much of the opinion that in addition to the rest of the complaints I've leveled against him till now I'm ready to add coasting and fake scum-hunting to what I dislike about popsofctown. It's something that DrippingGoofball says that I've been doing but I think that popsofctown is a much better example of it.
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