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Míriel Therindë Townie
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Budja Mafia Scum
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Well, there were less lurkers, so it was more unique in that sense. But largely, it was the best wagon and I didn't much like the players pushing the xofelf wagon IIRC.xvart wrote:
Was his lynch more unique when you were voting for him on D1?Budja wrote:SPS is a fair lynch but... not uniquely. I can name many players (e.g. Sens, Anon, KMD) who also suck on the content front.
The biggest case on him is his lack of attack.-
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MehPlusRawr Mafia Scum
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Basically not doing anything remarkably protown, being on my scummy spectrum since day 1, rethoric.questions.for.the.lose,
and trying to get the best lynch before tomorrow's deadline. Not my preferred lynch but still likely to hit.Anon wrote:ohhaiguise
Finally I have some stability in my internetzz and yeah I know I owe all of you a fat post with catchup, answers and questions and stuff like that but I decided Id take the more direct way of pure scumhuntng with one of the patented if I were a x-shot vig, Id kill... with x=4.
So yeah
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Just isolated you once again and wtf, dude. In one paragraph and before your "official V/LA", who do you think is scum, why, and what is your opinion of SPS?Stats: W/L/D
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Iecerint Survivor
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xvart Mafia Scum
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What I was getting at is the fact that you had already cast suspicion on SPS (in a FoS and saying his posts are scummy for a different, as of then, un-described reason) and then you sayIecerint wrote:I don't understand your next question. IIRC, I thought the scummiest/most opportunistic Jack voters were CKD and SPS. (I think I thought CKD was particularly bad because he joined Jackwagon while supporting sketchyCB once people were saying they found CB town. SPS was due to relatively poor reasoning for the switch + lackluster play elsewhere.)IFjack wagon scum exist it is either SPS or CKB. It appears to me that you you already suspect someone of being scum AND your secret towntell on Jack why the IF statement? Leaving a little wiggle room?
When did the CB wagon become sketchy?Iecerint wrote:(I think I thought CKD was particularly bad because he joined Jackwagon while supporting sketchyCB once people were saying they found CB town.
Leaning. Slightly. Scum. I find some of the people on his wagon much more scummy.SpyreX wrote:Xvart:
SPS: Scum, Town.
I want one simple word.
xvart.I only read quote walls.
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Iecerint Survivor
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Reason for the "if" statement is in like the very next sentence from the same paragraph you quoted from. I thought Jack had done something deserving a vote, so I wasn't going to bend over backwards attacking players who voted him for it.
CBwagon was never sketchy. CBplayer was sketchy. CKD was like "Vote: Jack. CB is town." just after some other people had done something similar.-
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Cyberbob Mafia Scum
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Can we stop with the witty little contractions? "The Cyberbob wagon" and "Cyberbob as a player" will do fine, thanks.
I'm really disappointed that so many people are buying into the SPS "case", I would lay money on there being a good chunk of scum in that wagon. Nobody bar a few players have questioned it at all (let alone looking at the circumstances in which a lot of the votes on it were made); it's quite simply as easy a wagon as it gets.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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Actually, at least from me early on it wasn't because you were "bandwagoning". It was because you were actively calling for the Sens wagon for ??? and calling the els wagon "dumb".I was getting wagonned because I was bandwagonning, which is my standard play. The paragon comment was meant to explain that I wasn't thinking "Why are people wagonning me? I haven't done anything wrong." since I was well aware that I hadn't contributed enough content. Did you bother to read your own quote here and the sentences preceding this one in my answer? The only way the accusation you're making here makes any sort of sense is if you just grabbed that one sentence out of context.
Succintness is pro-town.You're being ridiculous. The less words you use, the less information you can convey.
Especially in regards to someone who really seems to be playing doublespeak in regards to this wagon.-
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xvart Mafia Scum
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Is it so hard to imagine that ScumA is trying to string up ScumB in this situation? That's what I'm trying to figure out. The wagon is weak, but not completely unfounded. I'd rather put the fire under some of the people that have been advocating it asSpyreX wrote:Especially in regards to someone who really seems to be playing doublespeak in regards to this wagon.thewagon now since it very well could be scum on scum wagon.
xvart.I only read quote walls.
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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If you think its scumA stringing up scumB then help them along.
The only situation sniping a wagon -really- makes sense is if you think the player being wagoned is town.-
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Steam-Powered Shovel Goon
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The elswagon was dumb and yes, the Senswagon wasn't really based on nothing.SpyreX wrote:Actually, at least from me early on it wasn't because you were "bandwagoning". It was because you were actively calling for the Sens wagon for ??? and calling the els wagon "dumb".
To some extent, sure. Forcing him to use one word when it was already clear from his post that his position wouldn't fit neatly into either box is just being ridiculous though.SpyreX wrote:Succintness is pro-town.
I thought his stance was pretty clear.SpyreX wrote:Especially in regards to someone who really seems to be playing doublespeak in regards to this wagon.
Claim:I am Mandos of the race of Valar. I'm a Governor whose power is limited to the Revive/Destroy votes.The great advantage of the tiger in unarmed combat is that he eats not only the raspberry-laden foe but also the raspberries.-
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ooba Jack of All Trades
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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farside22 Mafia Mum
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How so?Steam-Powered Shovel wrote: In terms of having an ability that's too powerful for scum (hello no-reveal game!), no.mod wrote:1. Every character is assigned a race. When an Elf dies, he/she does not flip role or alignment but is moved to the Halls of Mandos, which functions as a pool of resurrectable players who cannot post, vote, use abilities, or participate in the game while they are there. On any Day when at least one players is in the Halls of Mandos the live players may vote to Revive a player there (bring them back into the game, allowing them to post, vote, and use abilities again) and may additionally vote to Destroy a player there, which will permanently remove that player from the game and cause them to flip role and alignment. Up to one player may be Revived and one Destroyed each game Day. Voting is the same as Lynch voting. Once a majority to do either is reached, that choice is locked in until the lynch. After the lynch, no votes for either Revive or Destroy will have any effect. Characters of any other races will move Beyond the Circles of the World (and for you flavor nitpickers, the Void isn't within the Circles of the World, now, is it?), and flip role, race, and alignment. There may or may not be exceptions to these conventions.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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Steam-Powered Shovel Goon
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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Steam-Powered Shovel Goon
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If I want to prevent a Revive or Destroy from taking place, I have to send a PM to Miriel prior to the Day ending.
You could ask the same question about a regular governor. It's just an ability mods hand out.ckd wrote:how is that a protown ability?The great advantage of the tiger in unarmed combat is that he eats not only the raspberry-laden foe but also the raspberries.-
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ooba Jack of All Trades
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Your ability is unlimited? i.e you can do it for revive and destroy every day? Do you have to separately choose for each? Or do both revives and destroys get canceled?wiki wrote:Grieving for Beren, Lúthien died too and came to the halls of Mandos. There she sang of her ill fate, that she would never again see Beren, who as a mortal Man had passed out of the world. Thereby Mandos was moved to pity. He restored Beren and Lúthien to life and granted mortality to the Elf.-
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Steam-Powered Shovel Goon
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I can't prevent both, but I can do it each day.
And I assume that if Beren returning to life is in the game, it'll be part of Beren's role, not mine. (Possibly Beren's Silmaril ability.)The great advantage of the tiger in unarmed combat is that he eats not only the raspberry-laden foe but also the raspberries.-
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ooba Jack of All Trades
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Your ability seems too powerful. I think most governors are one-shot or limited; not very sure though. Anyone had previous experience with governors in their games?
Anon wrote:Will likely post a xvartscum case in 1-2 hours so I can get a viable wagon in case SPS gives a verifiable claim. Somehow I doubt it though.
Just noticed this - Anon says you might come up with a "verifiable" claim - and thats what you do. (Proof of ability!=Proof of alignment).
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