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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:31 am

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Hello Mr. ANI IS SCUMZORZ!!!!
Are you really one to be saying that?
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:41 am

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Yeah. And I was the first one to move off the damn kunk wagon too. But I did think Ani was more scummy than kunk. Of course now it's obvious I don't.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:28 am

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My God. I can't believe I actually wrote that last night.
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Unvote. Vote: kunkstar.

I've forgotten why I thought he was not scum. Even doing a quick read-through of his posts in iso doesn't give me any clues to why I thought he was not scum.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:32 am

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I'm staying on Starbuck until I get a response. And tbh kunk started looking townier at the end of yesterday but he's still on my list in case you were wondering.
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:04 am

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Okay quick Nvay ISO because I've been forgetting to do it.
ISO 5 - the only one of my suspicions here that Nvay agrees with is kunkstar. Nvay votes kunk.

ISO6 - Concern that Nik is already committed to an Ani lynch.

ISO 7 - Nvay tells me I'm rushing things.

ISO 10 - Happy with kunk vote, vote stays.

ISO 14 - One of Slaxx/Me is probably scum. I'm overreacting, Slaxx is setting up lynches.

ISO 15 - Town reads on me and Nico

ISO 16 - Says he would to lynch me if Ani wasn't being scummy :(

Conclusions: Usually it benefits scum to leave people who have town reads on them alive. Nvay had a town read on Nico - maybe the only player to have such - so it's unlikely Nico would want Nvay dead.
Nvay had a scum read on kunk early on but abandoned the wagon in favor of an Ani vote. It would make sense that Nvay is a good target for kunk-scum to kill.
There were also brief mentions of Slaxx and Nik though Nvay was leaning town on Nik for most of the day. Slaxx-scum killing Nvay would probably make sense as well.
I'm not going to weigh in on Nvay's comments about me - you guys can do that yourself.
From the kill the most likely scum is either kunk or Slaxx. HOWEVER NK analysis should not be playing a major part in today's lynch. I'm only putting this up for reference and to hear your guys' thoughts on the matter.
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:01 am

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Mod: Starbuck, Kunkstar, CMAR, and Nico all need prods. Make it happen.


RE: Navy ISO: Out of everyone, I think it incriminates you and Slaxx the most; in fact, you even bringing it up makes me feel a bit more suspicious of you. Why? Well, mafia is ALWAYS hesitant to kill people who have them as their number one suspect. Rarely, however, are they nervous about killing someone who just happens to be their second suspect, especially if they are suspect someone else far more.

If kunkscum wanted to kill someone who suspected him, then it'd be a far better idea to kill Slaxx, no?
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:08 am

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
Mod: Starbuck, Kunkstar, CMAR, and Nico all need prods. Make it happen.


RE: Navy ISO: Out of everyone, I think it incriminates you and Slaxx the most; in fact, you even bringing it up makes me feel a bit more suspicious of you. Why? Well, mafia is ALWAYS hesitant to kill people who have them as their number one suspect. Rarely, however, are they nervous about killing someone who just happens to be their second suspect, especially if they are suspect someone else far more.

If kunkscum wanted to kill someone who suspected him, then it'd be a far better idea to kill Slaxx, no?
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:10 am

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Nvay was someone who suspected kunk early on and then moved away from the suspicions in favor of lynching Ani. But it means Nvay would probably be willing to lynch kunk further down the road. AKA, a good target to take out.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:15 am

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So? In ISO 16, Navy practically comes outright and says that he was going to lynch you today...
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:18 am

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Nvay said that yesterday before any flips. Does it mean it would hold true after 3 people died?
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:19 am

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OR the scum just noticed that nobody was going after Navy, and so killed him. This conversation isn't going to get us anywhere unless one of you can tell us that that wasn't the case.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:22 am

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Actually, now that I think about it, Nico is very likely to be scum. I don't see how else he's been allowed to lurk for this long.
Unvote. Vote: Nicodemus.


I'm thinking Nico+Starbuck+kunkstar. Don't ask me why. Nico is a much better lynch than the other two, though.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:28 am

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That is just Nico's town meta. I would prefer not to policy lynch on day 2.
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:29 am

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STOP SAYING THE WORD META
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:30 am

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Not a policy lynch. PoE lynch. Big difference.
Also, lurking is not anyone's town meta.
We can always just vig him, I suppose.
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:31 am

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Parama....i don't see how three flips have anything to do with anything.
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:32 am

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Assuming there is a vig. Tracker could have visited town killing role...etc. WIFOM. Not getting into it.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:40 am

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If anyone wants to know why I think that is the scumteam, it is because I drunkenly wrote that in my notes last night, but I can't remember why.
I trust my drunken reasoning, though.
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:04 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
Mod: Starbuck, Kunkstar, CMAR, and Nico all need prods. Make it happen.
kunkstar7 is V/LA, and CryMeARiver has avoided prodding by virtue of me being a slacker. Starbuck and Nicodemus, however, are prod-eligible and have been prodded; this is the second prod for both - the next time I catch them being prod-eligible, I'll begin a replacement search.


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Vote Count M:
Nicodemus (2, L-3) - Nachomamma8, Nikanor
kunkstar7 (1, L-4) - Slaxx
Nikanor (1, L-4) - CryMeARiver
Parama (1, L-4) - Starbuck
CryMeARiver (1, L-4) - Stephoscope
Starbuck (1, L-4) - Parama

Not Voting (2): kunkstar7, Nicodemus
5 votes are required to lynch, 3 at deadline.

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Monday, May 5, 2010, ~9:00 PM CDT (GMT-6+1)
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:13 pm

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Speaking of V/LAs, I'll have one of those until Wednesday...


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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:39 pm

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Prod received.

I am not giving this game the attention I need to, and I'm going to fix this tonight. expect a mega post soon-ish.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:10 pm

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Nicodemus wrote:Prod received.

I am not giving this game the attention I need to, and I'm going to fix this tonight. expect a mega post soon-ish.
Well I suck.

If I don't get something up in the next 24 hours, replace me please.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:26 pm

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Nicodemus wrote:If I don't get something up in the next 24 hours, replace me please.
If you're scum, just say so and then we probably won't need a replacement.
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:30 pm

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Nikanor wrote: Gotcha. Too bad there is no scumhunting in this post, or I would be completely satisfied.
Unvote. Vote: Parama.


Speaking of scumhunting, why is it that I'm the only one doing any right now?

I don't like your apparently judging posts as to whether or not they're "scumhunting". I am scumhunting every second that I am in a game as town. Every interaction provides something else to analyze. "Anti-town" moves can often win games for town.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:45 pm

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It's the weekend and I was checking in periodically, but at the time there were only like 2 or 3 posts under my last one, and I really had nothing to respond to.

Now, all of a sudden the thread exploded over night. Catching up later today.
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