My vote would definitely still have been made even if SocioPath had not posted that link.Jack wrote:Isn't the Iec case based on the meta Socio brought up?
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SP's metatell is not a very reliable one IMO. Analogizing my treatment of xvart's play with an old RVS vote (granted, one that I stuck with for awhile and become a Game Event, if only because a) SP took forever to respond to it and b) it was all self-conscious early-game distancing, anyway) is sort of a stretch. Also, I don't think I knew SP was V/LA at the time I made the RVS "case" on him, so that's another reason why the analogy is kinda tenuous.
I liked SPS as scum until yesterday; his response to that situation mirrored mine, at least. It's harder to interpret that well until we know FFFF's alignment, though. I could support an SPS lynch if no one likes xvart.-
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This, this is what makes it aaaaall bullshit.Iecerint wrote:Also, I don't think I knew SP was V/LA at the time I made the RVS "case" on him, so that's another reason why the analogy is kinda tenuous.
And why I pushed your case in that game to begin with.
This gem is what makes it all worth while.
That was a different game we were both in.
The only difference is, both games are completed now.
I couldn't cite the bullshit "RVS" case with specific sources at the time, as the other game was still on going.
Fact is, you made a bullshit "RVS" case, and stuck with it, all while continually harping in that I am an inactive player.
You KNEW I was gone, and yet pushed on such.
And you were scum.
You are doing the exact same thing here, ergo, you are scum.Aut Tace Aut Meliora Loquere Silentio.-
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That "gem" post is just a prod request on you. In fact, I specifically indicated that your absence was not scummy in that game ("have noticed the same thing elsewhere on the site"). I did attack you earlier that day in that game, but it was (legitimately IMO) based on your bad case on Vaya. Also, you were SKscum in that game, anyway, so that's a bad example of scumIec being mean to poor, busy townies, anyway.
If you want an "anatomy of a scumplay" from Fables, I voted scumfriendSP on bogus grounds to distance while actively discrediting townKpaca with more serious arguments.
Apart from superficial similarities (like "activity was a tell"), the analogy is inappropriate. I think xvart's play, including the circumstances bookending his V/LA, has been anti-town to scummy, so I'm voting him.-
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Going thru my read now by iso:
Anon - post 145 catch up post with no reasoning. post 283 actually this is a lot better thought process.
post 623 would love to hear more about why the vote and suspicion here
Would like to hear more from Anon but upon my reread I like his views and thoughts when he shared them.
Mod: Please prod Anon
Budja - Budja typically comes off scummy to me in any game I'm ever in with him. post 50 lack of reasoning here
post 75 fence sitting
post 136 filler post
post 168 a bit hypocritical to call out someone else post me thinks.
post 208 more pot and kettle comment. J-scope said he was not worth a vote why say he is voting?
post 608 interigued. Something i will ponder about later down the road.
post 636 what happened between 608 and 636?
post 871 What! When did you think Drip was scum and why?
post 879 buddy momment post 993 buddy moment.
ORLY?budja wrote:But I also don't think the FFFF-wagon is as scum-laden as Drip.
Seriously every time I feel budja is scum. We have the Dripp was scum to town view, the buddying, following and hypocrosy all in one player.budja wrote:I thought Drip was town. She/He was fairly chaotic but was quite intimidating too.
Cobalt - Day 1 I felt true, true cobalt town agression. Day 2 he had one vote and disappeared
Mod: Please prod Cobalt
Day 1 read town. Day 2 read bleh. neutral for now.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Farside, the first comment about budja refers to Drip thinking the FFFF-wagon was scum-laden. Have you read all of Day 2 yet?
SP's "metatell" carries no weight in my books, although SP seems genuine in his support of it.The great advantage of the tiger in unarmed combat is that he eats not only the raspberry-laden foe but also the raspberries.-
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^ that. I didn't think Drip was scummy, I disagree with her thinking the players on the FFFF wagon were scummy.
Don't see the fence-sitting. Filler post was mainly for my own catch-up IIRC.
Buddying was unintended. I try to agree with people if I agree rather than restate them as my own. I think its my playstyle you are reacting to.
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I'll say again that I think FFFF was a third party lyncher. It's the only explanation for his behavior other than some self sacrificing town power role outting gambit.
I think Budja definitely needs some more scrutiny. I'll also say that I played poorly at the beginning of Day One and I think I set myself up to be an easy mislynch, one of which I think that Budja was trying to capatilize on by redirecting me by saying I was misrepping him again, which when questioned about the misrep accusation there was no response.
I think Drippereth may have nailed it on the head (and her coffin so to speak) with this post, saying Budja was scum voting a townie (although I don't think FFFF was scum but the scum reaction would still be the same to a third party since it would eliminate two non-mafia members). This would also explain the Dripperth revive comment; especially considering J-Scope is already confirmed to be revived at days end.
It makes me even more suspicious now that Budja has a town read (for unknown reasons) on me and I believe he picked up the reason for my question to him.
Vote: Budja
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revote xvart. Just realized I had a bad reason for unvoting.
Budja, if you felt Drip was town, why were they intimidating?
Zito is town because he PM'd Plum to complain about his reads. He wouldn't do it as scum and I doubt he'd lie about it expecting someone to see it as a towntell. So Zito is confirmed town.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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SPS: I read day 2 while I was in limbo and joked with the mod about the number of people saying they targeted me. I certainly felt popular. I just don't understand how Ooba says he didn't see anyone target me yet I was dead. Just doesn't make sense to me.
I'm going back and reading most in isolation.
@budja: I don't like budding. I typically see it from scum towards a player they know to be town. Just my POV. I can see were I was confused by the drip comments.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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that's a bit rich coming from you... however...Cobalt wrote:hi
is anyone else not feeling the usual minty-fresh obvtown aura spyrex usually exudes?
It would be nice if he could post with a bit more depth, yeah.
In other news I like xvart's case on Budja but Iecerint's attempts at defending himself have been completely awful so I'll stick with him for the moment. I don't want to let that godawful attack of his slide into obscurity.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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I'm town, but I definitely feel the taste of not being able to BITE this game hard.
Real hard.
Remember waaaaay back when when I said that cyber was my only real gut town read?
Yea.
Still that way. A few are starting to crawl out of the morass AND the fact we don't have the flips right away is hurting but. Baby steps.-
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Oh goddammit.Cobalt wrote:hi
is anyone else not feeling the usual minty-fresh obvtown aura spyrex usually exudes?
Dear SpyreX,
Cobalt is using the same BS that Budja did. Alliance time Y/y? I may have another candidate, please hold.
Love,
PZ
No, and this is why the editing thing sucks.curiouskarmadog wrote:is there an easier way to review passed vote counts that dont involve scanning page by page?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Meh, he's not obvtown, but he's not scummy. I hate neutral reads, but I really don't see anything one way or the other on Spy...Cobalt wrote:hi
is anyone else not feeling the usual minty-fresh obvtown aura spyrex usually exudes?
Would be nice...curiouskarmadog wrote:is there an easier way to review passed vote counts that dont involve scanning page by page?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I personally like top-of-page Vote Counts, but I think I'm in the minority.
It's not like you're busy voting someone else. Vote for SPS if you think he's the scummiest.MehPlusRawr wrote:THIS GAME IS SO CONFUSING. What happened to the SPS wagon? I liked that wagon...
Uhm, what's the case on Iece again?
Since you're the second to ask and no one really responded (I think SP's response was mostly a response to my point that his metatell was bogus), the case on me is that my case on xvart is not very good, because it is variously a) against the spirit of the game and/or b) too presumptuous. I think the former is a silly reason to vote someone and the latter is based more on the poor word choice in my first few posts than the argument itself.-
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