Mini 954 ~ Mafia at the 11th Hour (Game Over!)

[semioldguy]

In theory it could take as little as a real life day or two, but in practice I doubt something like that would ever happen. Not only do players have to all agree on who is most likely town, but they also have to agree with the plan in general and then all get online in the same day or two, which is never a certainty. It would take more time than you suggest it might get done in.

[Porkens]

I believe that long day ones are detrimental to the town.

Two week days = long? LOL

I was speaking in generalities, as the question was posed to me:

Why would you ever be willing to lynch anybody on day one?

[Gammagooey]

VP-it's just that and our ongoing one.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

I don't get why Tony thinks that DDD is scum and vice-versa. DDD, could you summarize the reasons for why Tony is scum?

I'm glad you asked this question in such a timely fashion you know when Tony was no longer in the game.

I'm about as likely to vote for myself as to vote VPB today. Maybe he's abusing my trust but I don't see it.

[Vi]

Vote Count XIII:

- The Only Thing We Have To Fear Is a Giant Bolded Hammer

Nikanor (L-1) ~ dramonic, d3x, Jahudo, Pomegranate, Porkens, Gammagooey

Porkens (L-4) ~ Seraphim, Percy, semioldguy (TonyMontana)
TonyMontana (L-5) ~ Debonair Danny DiPietro, VP Baltar
Seraphim (L-6) ~ Nikanor

Gammagooey (L-7) ~

Gammagooey

Minimum (L-7)

Not Voting:

semioldguy (TonyMontana), Gammagooey

-Seraphim is being prodded again.

-Nikanor is at L-1!

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[Seraphim]

Sorry, I thought I could get in before prod, post forthcoming.

[semioldguy]

How forthcoming is it?

[Jahudo]

@Jahudo
What are your thoughts of Porkens as a potential competing wagon?

Porkens is playing like he did in Mafia Reverberation, and he was town there. So I don't think his "willingness to get a lynch quickly on just about anybody day 1" is something he'd only do as scum. And that seems to be the basis of his wagon today.

I just started reading The Fountainhead. I'll see if there's anything to pull from that game's scumteam of Porkens-DDD-d3x.

[Vi]

Seraphim has requested replacement. Please hold...

[Gammagooey]

Apparently not particularly forthcoming.

[dramonic]

Laasme

And now you know what the sound of a sheep sneezing is like. ~Vi

[Vi]

Cobalt replaces Seraphim. Welcome him!

[dramonic]

Oh lord we're all doomed

I guess that's kind of like welcoming him. ~Vi

[Pomegranate]

Welcome...

[Porkens]

Watch this:

unvote

Vote: Seraphim

10: Ignore
20: Feign ignorance
30: Promise a read
40: Replace out
50: Go to lynch.

[Porkens]

oh, sorry.

unvote

Vote: Cobalt

Welcome!

[Cobalt]

Wow, I rule, as usual.
Who we killin'?

[Gammagooey]

So no explanation for replacing out and only doing it after being prodded twice makes me >:[

Hey Cobalt, why aren't you scum for Sera's actions, who's scum?

[Cobalt]

what were sera's actions? I didn't bother reading
also, scum is pom, pretty sure guys

[Gammagooey]

Basically saying "LURKERS ARE BAD GUYZ" then becoming a lurker and promising words that never came.

[d3x]

Warning- You might want to skip to the tl;dr post script.

a) Calling someone out for posting in another game is valid if that person is lurking in the one you're playing. We were on p26. That's ridiculous. The fact that you Voted him is one thing, the fact that you backed it up and held to your nonRandom Vote is another. What exactly would you expect him to post? RVS nonsense? What is the Scum motivation behind VP's actions here? b)Did you check on the other players to see if they were posting anywhere else? If it's a valid ScumHunting option for page 2 and you didn't, why not?

I believe I've explained this already.

If you can point out where you explained this to the satisfaction of the Town, I'll be eternally grateful.

And seriously, not everyone is as hard a worker as you, d3x. It's a weak scumtell. I'm not going to go out and do research on something unless I think I'm really onto something.

Umm... I didn't say I was a hard worker? You called someone out for this reason and backed it up as legit. If it's a legit Tell, why haven't you done this at all with our other Lurkers? If you're admitting that it's a weak Tell, does it make it more or less so in the RVS, specifically in p26 with an active player? If it's an extremely weak example of a weak Tell, why even bother to defend it?

The problem is, you do this as Town, as I pointed out. I don't know what your angle was in saying you 'don't remember doing this' and then saying you try to forget the examples I posted {in the same post}, but it's not working on me.

I don't understand. I didn't ignore anything, nor do I think I missed anything.

This response makes no sense. I didn't say you ignored or missed anything. I said you're playing dumb with the whole 'I don't ever remember Lurking as Town' and then immediately saying 'I try to forget when I Lurk as Town'. Allow me to pull the exact quotes for you...

And I don't ever recall doing this

{saying "i'll catch up" and then dissappearing until a prod is sent}

as town.

Ehh, that game. I tried to forget about that

{saying "i'll catch up" and then dissappearing until a prod is sent}

.

-> {saying "i'll catch up" and then dissappearing until a prod is sent}

added by me for clarification of pronouns.

I can tell you all about my awesome weekend if you'd like.

Good to hear! <-not sarcastic

Seraphim is a chronic lurker, and still probably scum.

I don't get why Tony thinks that DDD is scum and vice-versa. DDD, could you summarize the reasons for why Tony is scum?

dramonic is actively lurking, as always. Not really an alignment tell.

What made Seraphim different from Tony differnet from dramonic?

Withholding judgement on Percy for now.

Why? You weren't giving reads on all players, so why mention a player that you're not going to provide a read on?

semioldguy replaces TonyMontana. Welcome him!

Howdy sog!

looks like you're trying to get attention off you by pointing out other players that are attacking you.

I actually think this is funny. Considering how Nik usually tunnels on me and always believes I'm Scum, I find it very interesting that he hasn't thrown any more than an RVS Vote my way. Especially when I'm championing the cause. In fact, I think the only game we played together where he

didn't

tunnel me was the one where he replaced out as Scum after Lurking his way through 6 pages. Hell, it'd be the easiest thing in the world to say I've been tunnelling on him the whole game. I'd even agree!

I'm really not feeling the Nikanor wagon.

Care to share why? I don't think Tony mentioned him once. The only interaction I could find was indirect at best. Tony Voted me when I started in on Nik. Interesting. In fact, I can't really find the ultimate Lurker hunter {nik} coming after Tony at all here either. I found a few times where Nik goes at DDD for going at Tony, but nothing in the other direction.

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Don't tease me VP. Lol.

Cobalt replaces Seraphim. Welcome him!

Howdy Cobalt! Long time, bro! Are you Scum? If no, join AwesomeWagon. It'll be just like old times.

also, scum is pom, pretty sure guys

Late RVS or legit thoughts?

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@Voting people up to give them powers plan- I find this kind of ridiculous. We're talking of Voting people up so that they can what, exactly? The posted example of a power given is to leave the Game for the rest of the Day. How exactly is this going to help us? If you're not keen on me using this example, allow me to quote the rules.

2. One Last Shot. Each player has an ability related to a desperate attempt to change their fortune.

Aside from us gaining 10% on the battery, I'm not sure what proTown awesomeness we're planning on getting. If someone can explain this to me, I'm down. Right now, I'm very doubtful.

@the swiftly decreasing deadline- We have ~2 1/2 RL Days. If this goes to No Lynch, d3x will be very nonplussed.

@Mod

- How's about that bonus battery charger for the ridiculous amount of last minute replacements?

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tl;dr? Vote AwesomeWagon, now fortified with Vitamin Win.

Bonus points for anyone who's realized that Nik's been sitting at L-1 for a while multiple times and any Scum who wanted to end him {were he Town} have had excellent covers to do so.

[VP Baltar]

Hi, Cobalt. Welcome. Don't have RAGING STUPIDITY with me this game.

Porkens' vote on Seraphim when Nik is at L-1 is LOL. Also, my hammer finger is getting itchy so if people actually have something worthwhile to say now is the time to say it. I may be semi-V/LA this weekend, so I'd prefer if I sent this game to night no later than Friday morning (sorry, I don't trust anyone else to come through). Cobalt, do you actually plan to read the game before deadline is up today?

[Porkens]

Niks at L-2 now.

[dramonic]

and that is not acceptable. We must end the scum.

[VP Baltar]

Blerg, you're right. My apologies then.

Unvote, Vote: Nikanor

That's better. I think we can both win this way.