Open 215 - Gurgi EC8 - Game Show Mafia, Over

[wolframnhart]

Fair enough

Tonight I will investigate Cirno.

SensFan you go next.

[SensFan]

Targetting farside.

VRK's next.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

I'll investigate wolf tonight. Farside next please.


wolf: Do you view cirno as pro-Town? why?

[wolframnhart]

@VRK

Going mostly off gut at this time. Cirno doesn't scream townie to me, but doesn't ping my scumdar right now.

[Cirno]

I'll be back to posting tomorrow.

[farside22]

Sorry I have been really busy at work lately. I will be investigating Vel tonight.

Next up to claim is Sandman.

[mavsfan41]

I have really limited internet access for the next couple of days, so tomorrow or Thursday I will go through this thread and post something more useful to the game.

[Mr.Sandman]

I'm going to investigate Sensfan

Chronek up next

[SensFan]

[mrow]'Cop'[col]Target[col]Result wolf[col]Cirno[col]TBD Sens[col]Farside[col]TBD VRK[col]wolf[col]TBD Farside[col]VRK[col]TBD Sandman[col]Sens[col]TBD Chronek[col]X[col]TBD X[col]X[col]TBD X[col]X[col]TBD
People left to claim: Cirno, Mavsfan
People left to check: Chronek, Mavsfan, Sandman

[chnorek]

i will investigate Sandman.
Cirno next.

[SensFan]

[mrow]'Cop'[col]Target[col]Result wolf[col]Cirno[col]TBD Sens[col]Farside[col]TBD VRK[col]wolf[col]TBD Farside[col]VRK[col]TBD Sandman[col]Sens[col]TBD Chronek[col]Sandman[col]TBD Cirno[col]Mavsfan[col]TBD Mavsfan[col]Chronek[col]TBD

I went ahead and filled in the last two rows, since Cirno has to investigate Mavsfan or else Mavsfan will be left investigating himself, which is impossible.

[farside22]

Note to all game:
I got swarmed at work. Will be on tempory leave for the next 2 days.

[wolframnhart]

Alright so now we have our popcorn hypo claim investigation list down. Should we proceed with the no lynch plan? Or talk some more and wait for Cirno and Mavsfan to chip in?

[Cirno]

I know I haven't actually been around to do my part, but please don't end the day. Right now everyone's suspicions and reads are based on very little. We shouldn't rely entirely on whatever we find out with this no-lynch you guys have decided on. More information now can help decide whether or not to believe claims later.

[Mr.Sandman]

I think mavsfan is scummy for failing to contribute absolutely anything to the game and my vote would be on him right now

[farside22]

I would vote on Cirno. She hasn't commented much about the game itself. Finds everyone suspicious with no reasoning. I could see with our talks scum wanting to lynch more then town at this point.
Tomorrow once we have some results scum will know (since 2 of them will be targets tonight) who is not a cop(s).
I see no issue with having discussion on our views of people.
Wolf any reason you picked Sens to chose next?
@everyone who is the player(s) you find scummy at this point?

[wolframnhart]

@Farside

he was on at the time.

As far as the scummy part I would have to agree with MrSandman, not really liking mavsfan at this time.

Also why did you pick VRK?

[Cirno]

There a few reasons I don't like a no lynch. There is the obvious reason that it guarantees all scum live to the next day and that there will be scum on day 3, which in turn guarantee at least 2 night kills.

Worse, upon deciding on a no lynch, it becomes impossible to pressure for the rest of the day as no one fears being lynched. Pressuring today is important because there is a good chance of fake claims.

Even a mislynch would be preferable to a no lynch, as at least the wagon and reasoning could be analyzed and we would have something to base our reads on entering day 2.

I will not be doing the "I would vote this person" thing. I will simply vote. If you put someone at L-1 and I believe there is a good chance they are scum, I will hammer.

[farside22]

@wolf: I had a town read on Vel during the discussion.

So Cirno: With the idea that maybe there could be 2 weak cops.
8 players
1 mislynch
night 2 cops investigate scum
scum kills vt player

there is no day 2. That is 4 players alive. This is the worse case obviously but I would rather take a chance at a no lynch in something like that happens then have 3 town 2 scum and some info based on the hypoclaim for a town win.

[Cirno]

And how likely is that to happen? Odds wise, It is more likely that the no lynch will benefit scum. I would rather risk it and have something to go on in the following days than no lynch and go in with nothing but claims that may or may not even be forthcoming and that are destined to be wifomed to death if they do.

[farside22]

And how likely is that to happen? Odds wise, It is more likely that the no lynch will benefit scum. I would rather risk it and have something to go on in the following days than no lynch and go in with nothing but claims that may or may not even be forthcoming and that are destined to be wifomed to death if they do.

*looks in crystal ball*

I see in the future if a Vt is put at L-1 claiming truthful and lynched.
I see more but it's fuzzy and not helpful to the town.

In short the best I see if we chose to lynch today is a mislynch.

[Cirno]

My mother is a psychic and she says that crystal balls are for chumps and swindlers.

But can you clarify that last post? Are you saying that we shouldn't lynch because there is a chance we could mislynch?

[chnorek]

im fine with no-lynch.

however if we go for lynching i think its better to do it without claiming, at least not on D1.
my preferred lynch would be mavsfan, my vote is there anyways.

[farside22]

My mother is a psychic and she says that crystal balls are for chumps and swindlers.

But can you clarify that last post? Are you saying that we shouldn't lynch because there is a chance we could mislynch?

We will more likely mislynch. I'm not helping the scum on my reason's further. I most likely see someone being run up to L-1 claiming VT (just saying) and then being lynched and flipping VT.
I already can predict the chaos of putting a scum member to L-1.

[Cirno]

So you

are

saying that we shouldn't lynch because we might mislynch? I'm saying that lynch

or

mislynch we will have more useful information for dealing with whatever may occur during the night or tomorrow. As it is, we are headed towards day 2 with extremely weak suspicions and very little to hold anyone to.