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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:58 am

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Kill: Everyone above me on the draft list

Ok, good game everyone
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Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:02 pm

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Oh, and I forgot,
##Vote: Spyrex

I could have sworn I PMed you to not let this happen.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #2) » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:10 pm

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Socrates wrote:I'll vote for whichever one of these has the most votes:

Fate
Paranadevil
Maybe Hoopla, maybe Sando (Need to think on these some more)

vote:Fate


I'd also strongly consider blindly following Parama and Porkens wherever their suspicions take them.

Don't like posts 3 & 4, not sure how to evaluate them though. I think I'll just ignore it.
You did not like that? Fine, then we shall start at the top of the list and move downwards until we get to me.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #3) » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:11 pm

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Ellibereth wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:Hey, is there a draft order somewhere?
DGB is town.
Along with the rest of the peeps I posted in the signup thread. I'll go dig it up.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #4) » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:22 pm

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People who are saying things like Serial just did do not understand the concept of WIFOM at all.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #5) » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:24 am

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Parama wrote:I don't get why we're wagoning soras.
Oddly enough, manho is scummiest, so I'm voting manho.
Soras wagon feels scum driven.
Or maybe it's an RL wagon and we got lucky, yet you are worried for your scumbuddy :shock:
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Post Post #93 (isolation #6) » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:36 am

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Zang wrote:
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! wrote:What does RL wagon mean?
RL means Real Life (I think)
Wow, if you weren't scum, you'd be funny :lol:
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Post Post #100 (isolation #7) » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:29 am

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to Lynch : 12


Dramonic
- 3 - Budja, mb53, Ellibereth - (L-9)
manho
- 2 - PranaDevil, Parama - (L-10)
Pomegranate
- 1 - Hoopla - (L-11)
PranaDevil
- 3 - Dramonic, Faraday, Socrates - (L-9)
sorasgoof
- 4 - Fate, Super Awesome Mega Pimp!, Porkens, CryMeARiver - (L-8)

Players not voting:12keyblade, DrippingGoofball, manho, Pomegranate, Sando, SerialClergyman, sorasgoof, Zang, Zoiaum


Roles Town Would Take With High Draft Pick

Cop
Doctor
Watcher
Tracker
Universal Backup
Gunsmith
Bomb
Roles Scum Would Take With High Draft Pick

Janitor
Redirector
Role Cop
Even Night Vig
Odd Day Vig
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Post Post #181 (isolation #8) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:23 am

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Parama wrote:Also, Zoiaum and 12keyblade have yet to post in the thread.
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Post Post #187 (isolation #9) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:05 am

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CryMeARiver wrote:
Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 12


Dramonic
- 3 - Budja, mb53, Ellibereth - (L-9)
Manho
- 2 - Parama, PranaDevil - (L-10)
Pomegranate
- 1 - Hoopla - (L-11)
PranaDevil
- 3 - Dramonic, Socrates, Faraday - (L-9)
SerialClergyman
- 1 - Manho - (L-11)
sorasgoof
- 4 - CryMeARiver, Fate, Super Awesome Mega Pimp!, Porkens - (L-8)

Players not voting: 12keyblade, DrippingGoofball, Pomegranate, Sando, SerialClergyman, sorasgoof, Zang, Zoiaum


Roles Town Would Take With High Draft Pick

Cop
Doctor
Watcher
Tracker
Universal Backup
Gunsmith
Bomb
Roles Scum Would Take With High Draft Pick

Janitor
Redirector
Role Cop
Even Night Vig
Odd Day Vig
I'm just saddened that no one reacted to this :(
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Post Post #189 (isolation #10) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:42 am

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PranaDevil wrote:Personally, it doesn't help us that much... it all depends on the position you are.

I'm also pretty sure in the sign up thread someone mentioned they hope someone picked doc this game, thereby stating that no bugger did in the previous game. (I can sorta see why, why be a role where you "might" die through use... you need some way of planning how you will run things).

Thus, it's not necessarily true that pro-town will definitely pick those roles.

In fact, to be honest, it all depends on how the scum team have decided to do things, to what they'll have picked. They know town will expect them to pick Janitor/Redirector/Role Cop... so why pick them? They could just go after decent (though perhaps not as strong) town roles instead. Stuff like Bomb, Backup, Weak Doc etc. will benefit scum still, purely by preventing town having those roles.

I think basing the game around what roles are more likely to be scum/town is a sure fire way of town losing badly.
For some reason, I don't think that's the route scum would take. I think taking roles that would benefit them while at the same time might look protown, might be more favorable then taking roles that are of little use to them, but put town at a disadvantage. Roles like Even/Odd Night Vig and janitor might be able to put a protown spin, therefore I think those would be likely roles for scum.
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Post Post #216 (isolation #11) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:26 pm

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dramonic wrote:Oh please, like you're an exemple of hunting.

Prana is saying particularly dubious thing, so is CMAR. I could surely establish a reason for scum to pick every single role on your "Town-role" list.

I'll reread to see if CMAR has done anything. If not the vote is going in that direction soon.
What have I "dubiously" done? I am just trying to establish content to judge claims for higher draft picks. I clearly don't see any town motive to take a role such as Role Cop, Even Day Vig, Odd Day Vig, or Redirector before a role like Cop, Doctor, Bomb, or Gunsmith.
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Post Post #224 (isolation #12) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:01 pm

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Fate wrote:Vig is a protown role for the last time. Unless you're against extra lynches.

Also I'm willing to switch to dram even more with that last post, but I'm sure they're both scum.
Yes, but I think we'd both agree that cop or doc would be more effective to the town.
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Post Post #233 (isolation #13) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:31 pm

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Sando wrote:Ok, this seems way too obvious not to have been thought of, but after the signup thread, I'm no longer convinced that everyone would be able to tie their own shoe-laces...

How on earth does claiming on D2 compared to D1 change things for vig? How are they less locked in after having had 1 night to kill?

Basically, a D1 massclaim doesn't really seem to gain us anything over a D2, and gives scum an extra night to plan and kill the PRs.
Actually, a vig could be directed still tonight whether we claim or not.

It's the other roles (cop, doc, watcher, tracker) that we don't want to out so early on, because scum just pick them off one at a time with ease.

Also, Socrates fails by classing me as being deserving of a lynch. Pay attention.

and CMAR, Cop/doc is very pro-town, however town didn't just have a choice of "cop/doc" or "vig" we had a choice of everything, and if lucky could land all of those roles... so why are you talking as though we had a choice of one or the other?
I'm just giving examples. Here, I will make a diagram:

If person A has the number 1 pick in the draft and they are town, they would likely select cop, tracker, or possibly even bomb or doctor.
If person B has the number 2 pick in the draft and they are scum, they would likely go for redirector, role cop, either vig, maybe even janitor.

This is the point that I am trying to prove. With a high draft pick, town would select cop/tracker/bomb/doctor before redirector, role cop, either vig, or janitor. Therefore, if a mass claim happens in the upcoming days, I do believe this would be a good guideline to follow.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #14) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:59 pm

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sorasgoof wrote:@CMAR- what if the number one person in the draft picks a role they know the mafia will want just to make sure they don't get it? Point being, each role is basically equal for both sides (if that makes sense) in my eyes. Each side has a reason for picking each role.
In my opinion, as both scum or town, I would choose a role that would benefit my alignment, whether it was scum or town, before I chose a role that would hinder the other alignment any day. Especially as scum since they have a lot less people. Choosing a role to benefit them is a lot more important.
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Post Post #245 (isolation #15) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:05 pm

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Fate wrote:sorasgoof is definitely scum BTW,
role related info.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #16) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:09 pm

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Fate wrote:I'm serious, however I'll vote Dram for now to appease Ellie and so I don't tip my hand.

But if I flip tonight you'll know why Soras is scum.
Ok?
I would hope this was a joke, because if you somehow know that someone is scum and are not helping the town lynch this person, you will be considered scum. Just sayin'
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Post Post #266 (isolation #17) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:45 pm

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mb53 wrote:
DGB wrote:But I had to say it to point out that it's possible that Dram could be just as clueless as I am, and be town.
No, he said that he looked in the thread to see the draft order unlike you.
Ok, screw this:
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for having such a fucking annoying avatar. I seriously almost started having spasms and seziures since I am an epileptic.
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Post Post #268 (isolation #18) » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:57 pm

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Parama wrote:mb, change your goddamn avatar. That's not funny.
It's only mild, but I might have to replace out
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Post Post #313 (isolation #19) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:58 am

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Since some people seem not to have looked at the queue thread, I'd like to emphasize this rule so some of our power roles don't come up empty handed come tomorrow.
Spyrex wrote:6.) This game has an instantaneous nightAll actions must be in as of the lynch. No actions after then will be counted. Resolution is the same.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #20) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:00 am

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manho wrote:
the "massclaiming now?" vote count

aye
(4): manho, Fate, Porkens, dramonic
nay
(1): Hoopla

aye needed to massclaim today: 12
nay needed to massclaim later: 11


i've changed the "nay" color to brown, as i think red is the mod's color.
Regarding this, I personally don't have a problem with it, but I think it would be smart to think over the possible repercussions for town in both. I'd also like some feedback from those in past PYPR games.

What path did they follow?
Did it turn out better or worse for town/scum?
Who ended up winning?
If they had followed a different path via massclaim, would there have been a different result?
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Post Post #425 (isolation #21) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:17 am

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to Lynch : 12


Dramonic
- 2 - Ellibereth, mb53 - (L-10)
Fate
- 1 - Sando - (L-11)
Hoopla
- 2 - DrippingGoofball, Socrates - (L-10)
manho
- 1 - Pomegranate - (L-11)
mb53
- 1 - CryMeARiver - (L-11)
Pomegranate
- 4 - Porkens, Faraday, Hoopla, SerialClergyman - (L-8)
sorasgoof
- 6 - Zang, Fate, Parama, PranaDevil, Dramonic, Super Awesome Mega Pimp! - (L-6)

Players not voting:12keyblade, Budja, manho, sorasgoof, Zoiaum

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Zang wrote:
##Unvote

##Vote: sorasgoof


don't have to talk now
I meant that I didn't have time to talk then.
Sorasgoof wrote:You might want to look up "sarcasm" in the dictionary.


Soras-404 doesn't look like sarcasm to me. It looks like frustrated scum who lost his temper.

And being #1 on the draft doesnt make you scum, but i would think that it is more likely.
That is hilarious :D Someone did not pass their statistics class.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #22) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:18 am

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CryMeARiver wrote:
Zang wrote:
Zang wrote:
##Unvote

##Vote: sorasgoof


don't have to talk now
I meant that I didn't have time to talk then.
Sorasgoof wrote:You might want to look up "sarcasm" in the dictionary.


Soras-404 doesn't look like sarcasm to me. It looks like frustrated scum who lost his temper.

And being #1 on the draft doesnt make you scum, but i would think that it is more likely.
That is hilarious :D Someone did not pass their statistics class.
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Post Post #434 (isolation #23) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:14 am

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Zang wrote:
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Zang wrote:
Zang wrote:
##Unvote

##Vote: sorasgoof


don't have to talk now
I meant that I didn't have time to talk then.
Sorasgoof wrote:You might want to look up "sarcasm" in the dictionary.


Soras-404 doesn't look like sarcasm to me. It looks like frustrated scum who lost his temper.

And being #1 on the draft doesnt make you scum, but i would think that it is more likely.
what?
That is hilarious :D Someone did not pass their statistics class.
Explain how it's "more likely" to be scum just because you have the first pick of the draft.
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Post Post #438 (isolation #24) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:33 am

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Zang wrote:
Porkens wrote:Does it make sense to you if we switch it up a little? --"Scum is more likely to have gotten the number 1 draft pick"
This is what I meant
No it doesn't make more sense. The draft picks were completely random. Is it not more likely for town to have gotten the number 1 draft pick no matter what, or am I missing something?
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Post Post #441 (isolation #25) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:45 am

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Porkens wrote:The picks were not completely random. The scum had more knowledge than the town or masons, so they could ensure (WIFOM aside) that they didn't pick the same numbers as each other.

Of course it isn't 100%, but they certainly had a better chance to pick better numbers.

Thus, a scum had a better chance to get the #1 draft pick than a non-scum individual.
Wow, I have no idea why I didn't think of this before. Thanks for the clear up.
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Post Post #457 (isolation #26) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:05 pm

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Parama wrote:I don't feel like participating in this game right now. All this arguing over massclaiming and statistics is pointless.
I agree, I am bored with it. But I like my vote and I still think you and soras are scumbuddies.
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Post Post #462 (isolation #27) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:13 pm

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CryMeARiver wrote:
Parama wrote:I don't get why we're wagoning soras.
Oddly enough, manho is scummiest, so I'm voting manho.
Soras wagon feels scum driven.
Or maybe it's an RL wagon and we got lucky, yet you are worried for your scumbuddy :shock:
You must be blind then.

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Post Post #470 (isolation #28) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:34 pm

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Parama wrote:
CryMeARiver wrote:
CryMeARiver wrote:
Parama wrote:I don't get why we're wagoning soras.
Oddly enough, manho is scummiest, so I'm voting manho.
Soras wagon feels scum driven.
Or maybe it's an RL wagon and we got lucky, yet you are worried for your scumbuddy :shock:
You must be blind then.
I still lololololololol
Be more scummy please.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #29) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:41 pm

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sorasgoof wrote:@SAMP- I'm not sure how to respond quite yet, but rest assured. It's simmering up there.

@CMAR- Please respond to my last post(s) concerning you.
Oh the irony. Look again scum.
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Post Post #480 (isolation #30) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:44 pm

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Parama wrote:
CryMeARiver wrote: Be more scummy please.
Start paying attention.

DGB, Manho is a main suspect and I'm just going back to the wagon. I started it and all.
I am paying attention to you defending sorasgoof, a scumspect of many.
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Post Post #484 (isolation #31) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:45 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Sorasgoof voters:

sorasgoof
- 5 - Fate, Super Awesome Mega Pimp!, PranaDevil, Zang, Dramonic

Pomegranate is scum off the wagon.

Two players on this wagon are scum.
MY VOTE ISNT ON HIM?!
Vote: sorasgoof

I don't remember ever unvoting.
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Post Post #489 (isolation #32) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:51 pm

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Parama wrote:I don't get why we're wagoning soras.
Oddly enough, manho is scummiest, so I'm voting manho.
Soras wagon feels scum driven.
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Players needed to lynch: 12


Dramonic
- 2 - mb53, Ellibereth - (L-10)
Hoopla
- 1 - Parama - (L-11)
Manho
- 2 - PranaDevil, Pomegranate - (L-10)
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- 3 - Dramonic, Socrates, Faraday - (L-9)
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sorasgoof
- 4 - CryMeARiver, Fate, Super Awesome Mega Pimp!, Porkens - (L-8)

Players not voting: 12keyblade, Budja, DrippingGoofball, Manho, Sando, SerialClergyman, sorasgoof, Zang, Zoiaum


Okay this is stupid. My vote is staying.
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And you keep waffling on soras and mahoe. As if you wanna look town for being on your scumbuddy's wagon, but wanna lead a ML on manhoe @ the same time.
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Post Post #490 (isolation #33) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:52 pm

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CryMeARiver wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:Sorasgoof voters:

sorasgoof
- 5 - Fate, Super Awesome Mega Pimp!, PranaDevil, Zang, Dramonic

Pomegranate is scum off the wagon.

Two players on this wagon are scum.
MY VOTE ISNT ON HIM?!
Vote: sorasgoof

I don't remember ever unvoting.
My bad
##Vote: sorasgoof

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*gasp* I did? Show me great philosopher.
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Post Post #494 (isolation #34) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:56 pm

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UGH

## VOTE: FREAKIN SORASGOOF

HAPPY?!?!?!?!
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Post Post #496 (isolation #35) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:00 pm

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dramonic wrote:no, because I'm not sure the parser can recognize Sorasgoof as freaking sorasgoof.

Repeat after me:

##vote: Sorasgoof
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##vote: Sorasgoof
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Post Post #502 (isolation #36) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:04 pm

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Socrates wrote:
*gasp* I did? Show me great philosopher.
I am paying attention to you defending sorasgoof, a scumspect of many.
This is an appeal to majority (Well kinda, more like an extended appeal to majority. Perhaps it would fit better under Guilt By Association?).

It doesn't really matter though, you made a post that contained a town tell while I was making that post.
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Post Post #506 (isolation #37) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:10 pm

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CryMeARiver wrote:
dramonic wrote:no, because I'm not sure the parser can recognize Sorasgoof as freaking sorasgoof.

Repeat after me:

##vote: Sorasgoof
copy paste
##vote: Sorasgoof
One last time: and anyone who thinks I am doing this on purpose needs to go die
##vote: Sorasgoof
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Post Post #515 (isolation #38) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:16 pm

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CryMeARiver wrote:
CryMeARiver wrote:
Parama wrote:I don't get why we're wagoning soras.
Oddly enough, manho is scummiest, so I'm voting manho.
Soras wagon feels scum driven.
Or maybe it's an RL wagon and we got lucky, yet you are worried for your scumbuddy :shock:
You must be blind then.

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Post Post #532 (isolation #39) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:28 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Pomegranate wrote:
dramonic wrote:
Pomegranate wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:It's not impossible that sorasgoof is town. Not impossible.
Just really, really close to impossible. Gotcha.

# #Unvote
.


# #Vote: sorasgoof
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Vote format fail, didnt get counted.
Just to be sure:

##Unvote
.

##Vote: sorasgoof
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SCUM
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Post Post #540 (isolation #40) » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:48 pm

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Fate wrote:Budja's in this game? The hell?

Too busy modding to give us some love green guy?

Ellie, you ever play with Dram before? Active lurking it to dram as killing people is to Porkens. The whole draft list thread thing is a meh point.

That said I still have role-related info on Sorasscum.
1. I don't see how this is possible
2. If you are refusing to out info that can help the town, that is highly anti-town, borderline scumm
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Post Post #773 (isolation #41) » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:25 pm

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dramonic wrote:and CMAR
Would you like me to confirm that?
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Post Post #775 (isolation #42) » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:31 pm

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to Lynch : 10


Porkens
- 8 - PranaDevil, Super Awesome Mega Pimp!, Ellibereth, Dramonic, Fate, Pomegranate, Socrates, Parama - (L-2)

Players not voting:12keyblade, CryMeARiver, DrippingGoofball, Faraday, Hoopla, manho, mb53, Porkens, Sando, Zang, Zoiaum

dramonic wrote:No, but do get an action in if you have one.
I do believe I'm the one who posted this like 15 pages ago? Believe me, I have
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Post Post #776 (isolation #43) » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:31 pm

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CryMeARiver wrote:
dramonic wrote:No, but do get an action in if you have one.
I do believe I'm the one who posted this like 15 pages ago? Believe me, I have
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Post Post #800 (isolation #44) » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:58 pm

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to Lynch : 10


Porkens
- 8 -
Pomegranate
,
Parama
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Socrates
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Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
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PranaDevil
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Ellibereth
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mb53
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manho
- (L-2)

Players not voting:12keyblade, CryMeARiver, Dramonic, DrippingGoofball, Faraday, Fate, Hoopla, Porkens, Sando, Zang, Zoiaum

Hoopla wrote:Can someone help me complete this list? Am I missing any claims/information here? I think there are a couple of Vanilla claims I'm missing.

2,12 sorasgoof (Even-Night-Vig)

10,1 Pomegranate (Tracker)
11,7 Sando
12,3 Porkens (Odd-Night-Vig)

13,7 Dramonic
1,1 SerialClergyman (Watcher)

1,1 manho
3,6 Socrates
3,6 Zoiaum
5,4 Ellibereth
5,15 Drippinggoofball (Vanilla)
6,1 superawesomemegapimp
6,2 Budja (Vanilla)

7,3 Fate
7,11 Parama (Vanilla Janitor)
4,5 PranaDevil
4,7 CryMeARiver
4,8 12keyblade
9,2 Zang
9,4 Faraday
9,9 Hoopla
9,15 mb53 (Vanilla Backup)


Well, look at scum at the top of the tree here. We now know Pomegranate is highly likely to be town, unless this is some sort of ridiculous gambit (sorry Pom, btw). I'd also suggest Sando is quite likely to be town, especially if he can confirm he isn't a Universal Backup, Redirector or Janitor.

It's also quite likely that the Soras' wagon was very town driven
unless
scum has the Universal Backup, which makes a Day 1 bus of one of their best roles a feasible play, as it hides the vig again.


We know the Universal Backup is in play somewhere, and I think the town should decide who to kill with that shot. My opinion is that we should shoot from this chunk of the list;

1,1 manho
3,6 Socrates
3,6 Zoiaum
5,4 Ellibereth
5,15 Drippinggoofball
6,1 superawesomemegapimp

...with a preference for manho, Zoiaum or SAMP.
The thing is, this is likely and sucks for us. I want to propose the idea of the backup claiming now.
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Post Post #828 (isolation #45) » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:49 am

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Fate wrote:CMAR stop rolefishing nub.

The Super Backup has all but claimed, read the thread more
carefully.
1. I'm not rolefishing. We should guide the vigs kills at night as a town and doc should be on them. If they don't shoot who we tell them to, we lynch them.
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Post Post #830 (isolation #46) » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:57 am

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Pomegranate wrote:
CryMeARiver wrote:
Fate wrote:CMAR stop rolefishing nub.

The Super Backup has all but claimed, read the thread more
carefully.
1. I'm not rolefishing. We should guide the vigs kills at night as a town and doc should be on them. If they don't shoot who we tell them to, we lynch them.
2. Can we massclaim now? And get some cop, gunsmith, other role info?
How about we lynch Porkens soon (maybe wait a little bit more), and massclaim tomorrow, if we're really stuck?
I wouldn't mind that. As I pointed out a few times, I think roles like Vig that are chosen high are scum. Like soras.

Vote: Porkens
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Post Post #840 (isolation #47) » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:57 am

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12Keyblade wrote:So, I take it scum is contained in the list of:

manho
Porkens
dramonic
Elli
DGB
Lurker-Zoiaum
Sando

Anyone I missed? If not, I'll vote soon.
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Post Post #852 (isolation #48) » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:39 pm

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mb53 wrote:Anyone else find it odd that the scummiest people were not on the wagon?
Such as?
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Post Post #853 (isolation #49) » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:40 pm

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2,12 sorasgoof (Even-Night-Vig)
10,1 Pomegranate (Tracker)
11,7 Sando
12,3 Porkens (Odd-Night-Vig)
13,7 Dramonic
1,1 SerialClergyman (Watcher)
1,1 manho (Redirector)
3,6 Socrates
3,6 Zoiaum
5,4 Ellibereth
5,15 Drippinggoofball (Vanilla)
6,1 superawesomemegapimp (Vanilla for????)
6,2 Budja (Vanilla)
7,3 Fate
7,11 Parama (Vanilla Janitor)
4,5 PranaDevil
4,7 CryMeARiver (Vanilla Gunsmith)
4,8 12keyblade
9,2 Zang
9,4 Faraday
9,9 Hoopla
9,15 mb53 (Vanilla Backup)

LETS FILL THIS IN
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Post Post #946 (isolation #50) » Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:02 am

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Parama wrote:
##vote: dramonic

I feel like wagoning today. I don't feel like scumhunting. Bleh.
I feel like massclaiming incase we lose a cop/tracker/gunsmith tonight :p
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Post Post #1004 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:57 am

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Hoopla wrote:
Faraday wrote:2.)Dramonic
8.)mb53
9.)Parama
10.)Zoiaum
12.)Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
21.)12keyblade

taking prana devil out of my scum list got a good feeling about him. 2 scum in here @ a guess. probably wrong about someone as usual.
probably super awesome mega pimp is my guess.
Haha, that would be my guess as well.
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #52) » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:19 am

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Yeah, I have the feeling mafia got both vigs and the Uni Backup.
## Vote: Dramonic
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Post Post #1367 (isolation #53) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:54 am

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Parama wrote:Mr. I'mNotHere is next.
I can confirm receiving this peach.

3,6 Socrates - Janitor
5,15 Drippinggoofball - Vanilla Watcher (SC Watcher)
7,3 Fate - ???
7,11 Parama - Vanilla Janitor (Socrates Janitor)
4,5 PranaDevil - Mason ???
4,7 CryMeARiver - ???
4,8 12keyblade - ???
9,2 Zang - Fruit Vendor
9,4 Faraday - Vanilla Jailkeeper
9,15 mb53 - Vanilla Universal Backup (dramonic UBU)
Vanilla gunsmith, I've said that
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #54) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:57 am

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CryMeARiver wrote:
Parama wrote:Mr. I'mNotHere is next.
I can confirm receiving this peach.

3,6 Socrates - Janitor
5,15 Drippinggoofball - Vanilla Watcher (SC Watcher)
7,3 Fate - ???
7,11 Parama - Vanilla Janitor (Socrates Janitor)
4,5 PranaDevil - Mason ???
4,7 CryMeARiver - ???
4,8 12keyblade - ???
9,2 Zang - Fruit Vendor
9,4 Faraday - Vanilla Jailkeeper
9,15 mb53 - Vanilla Universal Backup (dramonic UBU)
Vanilla gunsmith, I've said that
Oh, whoops, I missed keyblade :p
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #55) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:13 pm

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Draft:
D1- 2,12 sorasgoof -
Even Night Vig

No night actions
N5- 10,1 Pomegranate
Tracker

______, Porkens visited SerialCleregyMan
N4- 11,7 Sando
Gunsmith

_______, ________, Elibereth has a gun
D2- 12,3 Porkens
Odd Night Vig

Killed SerialClergyman
D3- 13,7 Dramonic
Universal Backup (Even Night Vig)

Gained Even Night Vig abilities, Killed manho/Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
N1- 1,1 SerialClergyman
Watcher

No Applicable Night Actions
N2- 1,1 manho
Redirector

_________, __________
+ 3,6 Socrates*
Janitor

No Night Actions
N3- 3,6 Zoiaum
Mason Weak Doctor

__________, ___________, ___________
D5- 5,4 Ellibereth*
Neighborizer

___________, ___________, _____________, ___________
+ 5,15 Drippinggoofball
Vanilla Watcher

No Applicable Night Actions
N2- 6,1 superawesomemegapimp
Vanilla ____

No Night Actions
N1- 6,2 Budja
Vanilla ______

No Night Actions
+ 7,3 Fate
_________

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 7,11 Parama
Vanilla Janitor

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 4,5 PranaDevil
Mason _____

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 4,7 CryMeARiver
Vanilla Gunsmith

No Night Actions
+ 4,8 12keyblade
__________

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 9,2 Zang
Fruit Vendor

Pomegranate to Pomegranate, mango to manho, Dripping Gooseberry to DrippingGoofball, peach to parama, pear to pranadevil
+ 9,4 Faraday*
Vanilla Jailkeeper

No Applicable Night Actions
D4- 9,9 Hoopla*
Vanilla ____

No Night Actions
+ 9,15 mb53*
Vanilla Universal Backup

No Applicable Night Actions
* Asterix denotes dice rollers. Fate, Keyblade and Parama were not counted as dice rollers, as they either changed their roll or left themself the option to change.
+ Plus denotes the player is still alive
- Minus denotes the player is lynched/killed
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #56) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:25 pm

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Draft:

D1- 2,12 sorasgoof -
Even Night Vig

No night actions
N5- 10,1 Pomegranate
Tracker

______, Porkens visited SerialCleregyMan
N4- 11,7 Sando
Gunsmith

_______, ________, Elibereth has a gun
D2- 12,3 Porkens
Odd Night Vig

Killed SerialClergyman
D3- 13,7 Dramonic
Universal Backup (Even Night Vig)

Gained Even Night Vig abilities, Killed manho/Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
N1- 1,1 SerialClergyman
Watcher

No Applicable Night Actions
N2- 1,1 manho
Redirector

_________, __________
+ 3,6 Socrates*
Janitor

No Night Actions
N3- 3,6 Zoiaum
Mason Weak Doctor

__________, ___________, ___________
D5- 5,4 Ellibereth*
Neighborizer

___________, ___________, _____________, ___________
+ 5,15 Drippinggoofball
Vanilla Watcher

No Applicable Night Actions
N2- 6,1 superawesomemegapimp
Vanilla ____

No Night Actions
N1- 6,2 Budja
Vanilla ______

No Night Actions
+ 7,3 Fate
_________

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 7,11 Parama
Vanilla Janitor

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 4,5 PranaDevil
Mason Vanilla Neighborizer

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 4,7 CryMeARiver
Vanilla Gunsmith

No Night Actions
+ 4,8 12keyblade
__________

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 9,2 Zang
Fruit Vendor

Pomegranate to Pomegranate, mango to manho, Dripping Gooseberry to DrippingGoofball, peach to parama, pear to pranadevil
+ 9,4 Faraday*
Vanilla Jailkeeper

No Applicable Night Actions
D4- 9,9 Hoopla*
Vanilla ____

No Night Actions
+ 9,15 mb53*
Vanilla Universal Backup

No Applicable Night Actions
* Asterix denotes dice rollers. Fate, Keyblade and Parama were not counted as dice rollers, as they either changed their roll or left themself the option to change.
+ Plus denotes the player is still alive
- Minus denotes the player is lynched/killed
Red
denotes confirmed mafia
Green
denotes confirmed town
Blue
denotes probable town
Black
denotes unknown allignment
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pee on you" - Chesskid

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Post Post #1382 (isolation #57) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:26 pm

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Draft:

D1- 2,12 sorasgoof -
Even Night Vig

No night actions
N5- 10,1 Pomegranate
Tracker

______, Porkens visited SerialCleregyMan
N4- 11,7 Sando
Gunsmith

_______, ________, Elibereth has a gun
D2- 12,3 Porkens
Odd Night Vig

Killed SerialClergyman
D3- 13,7 Dramonic
Universal Backup (Even Night Vig)

Gained Even Night Vig abilities, Killed manho/Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
N1- 1,1 SerialClergyman
Watcher

No Applicable Night Actions
N2- 1,1 manho
Redirector

_________, __________
+ 3,6 Socrates*
Janitor

No Night Actions
N3- 3,6 Zoiaum
Mason Weak Doctor

__________, ___________, ___________
D5- 5,4 Ellibereth*
Neighborizer

___________, ___________, _____________, ___________
+ 5,15 Drippinggoofball
Vanilla Watcher

No Applicable Night Actions
N2- 6,1 superawesomemegapimp
Vanilla ____

No Night Actions
N1- 6,2 Budja
Vanilla ______

No Night Actions
+ 7,3 Fate
_________

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 7,11 Parama
Vanilla Janitor

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 4,5 PranaDevil
Mason Vanilla Neighborizer

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 4,7 CryMeARiver
Vanilla Gunsmith

No Night Actions
+ 4,8 12keyblade
__________

No Applicable Night Actions
+ 9,2 Zang
Fruit Vendor

Pomegranate to Pomegranate, mango to manho, Dripping Gooseberry to DrippingGoofball, peach to parama, pear to pranadevil, fig to Fate
+ 9,4 Faraday*
Vanilla Jailkeeper

No Applicable Night Actions
D4- 9,9 Hoopla*
Vanilla ____

No Night Actions
+ 9,15 mb53*
Vanilla Universal Backup

No Applicable Night Actions
* Asterix denotes dice rollers. Fate, Keyblade and Parama were not counted as dice rollers, as they either changed their roll or left themself the option to change.
+ Plus denotes the player is still alive
- Minus denotes the player is lynched/killed
Red
denotes confirmed mafia
Green
denotes confirmed town
Blue
denotes probable town
Black
denotes unknown allignment
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You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.


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pee on you" - Chesskid

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Post Post #1385 (isolation #58) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:37 pm

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Parama wrote:CMAR, Prana is totally mason aka confirmed town and he confirms me as town through Zoiaum protects.
1) Was it ever specified that the role of mason is confirmed town?
2) Was he on you each night? Idk how I missed this.
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Post Post #1394 (isolation #59) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:20 pm

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Draft:


D1- 2,12 sorasgoof -
Even Night Vig

No night actions

N5- 10,1 Pomegranate
Tracker

______, Porkens visited SerialCleregyMan

N4- 11,7 Sando
Gunsmith

_______, ________, Elibereth has a gun

D2- 12,3 Porkens
Odd Night Vig

Killed SerialClergyman

D3- 13,7 Dramonic
Universal Backup (Even Night Vig)

Gained Even Night Vig abilities, Killed manho/Super Awesome Mega Pimp!

N1- 1,1 SerialClergyman
Watcher

No Applicable Night Actions

N2- 1,1 manho
Redirector

_________, __________

+ 3,6 Socrates*
Janitor

No Night Actions

N3- 3,6 Zoiaum
Mason Weak Doctor

Protected Parama, ___________, ___________

D5- 5,4 Ellibereth*
Neighborizer

___________, ___________, _____________, ___________

+ 5,15 Drippinggoofball
Vanilla Watcher

No Applicable Night Actions

N2- 6,1 superawesomemegapimp
Vanilla ____

No Night Actions

N1- 6,2 Budja
Vanilla ______

No Night Actions

+ 7,3 Fate
Bomb

No Applicable Night Actions

+ 7,11 Parama
Vanilla Janitor

No Applicable Night Actions

+ 4,5 PranaDevil [color=greenMason Vanilla Neighborizer[/color]
No Applicable Night Actions

+ 4,7 CryMeARiver
Vanilla Gunsmith

No Night Actions

+ 4,8 12keyblade
__________

No Applicable Night Actions

+ 9,2 Zang
Fruit Vendor

Pomegranate to Pomegranate, mango to manho, Dripping Gooseberry to DrippingGoofball, peach to parama, pear to pranadevil, fig to Fate

+ 9,4 Faraday*
Vanilla Jailkeeper

No Applicable Night Actions

D4- 9,9 Hoopla*
Vanilla ____

No Night Actions

+ 9,15 mb53*
Vanilla Universal Backup

No Applicable Night Actions

* Asterix denotes dice rollers. Fate, Keyblade and Parama were not counted as dice rollers, as they either changed their roll or left themself the option to change.
+ Plus denotes the player is still alive
- Minus denotes the player is lynched/killed
Red
denotes confirmed mafia
Green
denotes confirmed town
Blue
denotes probable town
Black
denotes unknown allignment[/quote]
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Post Post #1396 (isolation #60) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:24 pm

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A few notes:
How the hell did no one get cop/role cop?
Who did Zoiaum protect N2 and N3?
What was Pom's N1 tracking result?
What were Sando's N1 and N2 gunsmith results?
Manho never released his redirector targets?
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Post Post #1398 (isolation #61) » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:29 pm

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Parama wrote:Pome's N1 track was Porkens, lol.
Damnit :roll:
N2?
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Post Post #1463 (isolation #62) » Sun May 02, 2010 11:32 am

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Parama wrote:
Fate wrote:
Faraday wrote:god i hate people /quote]

Fix'd.
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #63) » Mon May 03, 2010 12:28 pm

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Super Awesome Mega Pimp! wrote:The series of scum-vig lynches started with Soras. Soras's reaction to my pressure was the catalyst for the wagon on him. Therefore, I give myself 100% of the credit for town's victory. 8-)

I like the PYP setup and would play it again, I don't really care what changes.
PSSHHHHHHHH
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #64) » Mon May 03, 2010 12:52 pm

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Pomegranate wrote:
Zang wrote:The fruit vendor messes up the tracker, watcher, redirector, etc.
Huh?

How?
????????????????????????
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