Pick Your Power III: A Brave New World

[Zang]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 12

Dramonic

- 2 - mb53, Ellibereth - (L-10)

Hoopla

- 1 - Zang - (L-11)

Manho

- 3 - PranaDevil, Pomegranate, Parama - (L-9)

PranaDevil

- 3 - Dramonic, Socrates, Faraday - (L-9)

SerialClergyman

- 1 - Hoopla - (L-11)

sorasgoof

- 4 - CryMeARiver, Fate, Super Awesome Mega Pimp!, Porkens - (L-8)

Players not voting: 12keyblade, Budja, DrippingGoofball, Manho, Sando, SerialClergyman, sorasgoof, Zoiaum

I sniffed Zang and I'm not getting that fresh townie smell.

Are you sure there's nothing wrong with your nose?

[Parama]

Are you going to keep posting pointless filler?

[Zang]

Are you going to keep posting pointless filler?

Well, I don't really see anything going on. I see pointless wagons. The only real discussion that has happened is If we should massclaim.

[Ellibereth]

I think Hoopla is town.

Why?

She's making no sense.

Exactly!
And yeah, Cry and Zang are town too.

[Fate]

This soras wagon is slow as he compared to the one on me last game d1. Dgb and others chainsaw defense on Porkens is noted.

Stop postin filler and vote soras who has mysteriously dissappeared. It'll make content appear I swear.

[Ellibereth]

I'll vote Soras if you tell me what you think about Dram.

[Pomegranate]

[quote="Fate"]Dgb and others chainsaw defense on Porkens is noted./quote]

[Pomegranate]

This is what I meant:

Dgb and others chainsaw defense on Porkens is noted.

This is wrong because DGB said that Porkens was scum. Get your facts straight.

[Fate]

Yes. It should read chainsaw defense of soras with porkens as the target.

[Pomegranate]

Ah. All clear.

[Fate]

Fine Ellie I Isod dram. No scumhunting, his votes still on pranatown.

Don't like.

Soras has more votes though

[dramonic]

Oh please, like you're an exemple of hunting.

Prana is saying particularly dubious thing, so is CMAR. I could surely establish a reason for scum to pick every single role on your "Town-role" list.

I'll reread to see if CMAR has done anything. If not the vote is going in that direction soon.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think Hoopla is town.

Why?

She's making no sense.

Exactly!
And yeah, Cry and Zang are town too.

Sorry friend... I would reconsider the Hoopla and Zang reads. Especially the latter.

[Fate]

You've either never played with Zang before, or are scum picking on an easy target.

Or IMO: both.

[Zang]

You've either never played with Zang before, or are scum picking on an easy target.

Or IMO: both.

she's never played a game with me before.

[PranaDevil]

Oh please, like you're an exemple of hunting.

Prana is saying particularly dubious thing, so is CMAR. I could surely establish a reason for scum to pick every single role on your "Town-role" list.

I'll reread to see if CMAR has done anything. If not the vote is going in that direction soon.

It's only dubious if you can't work it out. Thus far in that list we have dram and manho, I'm saying scum for both.

[CryMeARiver]

Oh please, like you're an exemple of hunting.

Prana is saying particularly dubious thing, so is CMAR. I could surely establish a reason for scum to pick every single role on your "Town-role" list.

I'll reread to see if CMAR has done anything. If not the vote is going in that direction soon.

What have I "dubiously" done? I am just trying to establish content to judge claims for higher draft picks. I clearly don't see any town motive to take a role such as Role Cop, Even Day Vig, Odd Day Vig, or Redirector before a role like Cop, Doctor, Bomb, or Gunsmith.

[Fate]

Vig is a protown role for the last time. Unless you're against extra lynches.

Also I'm willing to switch to dram even more with that last post, but I'm sure they're both scum.

[Sando]

Ok, this seems way too obvious not to have been thought of, but after the signup thread, I'm no longer convinced that everyone would be able to tie their own shoe-laces...

How on earth does claiming on D2 compared to D1 change things for vig? How are they less locked in after having had 1 night to kill?

Basically, a D1 massclaim doesn't really seem to gain us anything over a D2, and gives scum an extra night to plan and kill the PRs.

[Zang]

Ok, this seems way too obvious not to have been thought of, but after the signup thread, I'm no longer convinced that everyone would be able to tie their own shoe-laces...

How on earth does claiming on D2 compared to D1 change things for vig? How are they less locked in after having had 1 night to kill?

Basically, a D1 massclaim doesn't really seem to gain us anything over a D2, and gives scum an extra night to plan and kill the PRs.

I agree, I think it would be best for us to claim day 1 or as soon as possible.

[Sando]

Ok, this seems way too obvious not to have been thought of, but after the signup thread, I'm no longer convinced that everyone would be able to tie their own shoe-laces...

How on earth does claiming on D2 compared to D1 change things for vig? How are they less locked in after having had 1 night to kill?

Basically, a D1 massclaim doesn't really seem to gain us anything over a D2, and gives scum an extra night to plan and kill the PRs.

I agree, I think it would be best for us to claim day 1 or as soon as possible.

...I'm advocating the opposite of that

[Parama]

Zang obviously isn't reading the thread.

[Zang]

Ok, this seems way too obvious not to have been thought of, but after the signup thread, I'm no longer convinced that everyone would be able to tie their own shoe-laces...

How on earth does claiming on D2 compared to D1 change things for vig? How are they less locked in after having had 1 night to kill?

Basically, a D1 massclaim doesn't really seem to gain us anything over a D2, and gives scum an extra night to plan and kill the PRs.

I agree, I think it would be best for us to claim day 1 or as soon as possible.

...I'm advocating the opposite of that

I missread I thought you said that not claiming gives scum more time to plan.

[Socrates]

Massclaim was my idea and I was saying day 2 from the very beginning, so ya.

Serial: If the scum team truthfully claims their role, then fuck ya mission successful. They lose all control over how they use their roles and the town can direct them at our leisure. (Side note, I have a low opinion of people who have a problem with directing power roles.) At the very least, they have to justify their use and can't get away with using it in an anti-town fashion.

In my opinion, PYPII was primarily won through the scum effectively using their power roles and fakeclaiming successfully, and I don't want the scum to have another game like that one.

To be honest, since the idea of massclaim has been sitting around in some form even before the draft, the scum have definitely at least spent a portion of their time preparing for it and I expect the potential upside of a massclaim to be minimized. I am open to being talked out of it.

Hoopla has been officially upgraded to tier 1 scummyness. I will now vote whichever one of Prana, Fate, or Hoopla has the most votes. Need to check the vote count.

I don't have much faith in the Manho wagon.

[CryMeARiver]

Vig is a protown role for the last time. Unless you're against extra lynches.

Also I'm willing to switch to dram even more with that last post, but I'm sure they're both scum.

Yes, but I think we'd both agree that cop or doc would be more effective to the town.