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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:51 pm

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I'm sending out a massprod.


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Vote Count H:
animorpherv1 (4, L-3) - Nachomamma8, Nicodemus, NavyCherub, Slaxx

Looker (2, L-5) - Stephoscope, kunkstar7
kunkstar7 (2, L-5) - Parama, Nikanor
Parama (2, L-5) - Starbuck, Looker
Slaxx (1, L-6) - animorpherv1

Not Voting (1): CryMeARiver
7 votes are required to lynch, 4 at deadline.
If deadline were to hit right now, animorpherv1 would be lynched.

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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:57 pm

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Unvote. Vote: ani.

I don't mind an ani lynch, and we really need to get the ball rolling.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:10 pm

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Blargh, Friday, really? x_x
I need to reread, if I can find a convincing enough reason to switch to Ani I will, but I won't vote him if I can't; kunk or Starbuck need to die first.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:37 pm

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Okay I need to read more.
This is Nico overreacting in a similar way that kunk did. Can't believe I missed this.

What was the point of Starbuck's random vote in 97? Uneffective distancing technique?

Ani in 111 is annoying buddying and noncommittal play.

Slaxx stop buddying me please. The amount your doing is ridiculous; it won't work. If you flip scum (looking more and more likely each time you post) then I can assure you your bad attempts at buddying me will not get me lynched.
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Okay Slaxx where the hell do these reads come from?

Ani "" "" "' "" "" "" "" ""

I don't want to do it but we might have to resort to Lynch all Lurkers.

Meh, still not sure which way to go on an Ani lynch. A lack of kunk BW by deadline means I'll probably switch for the sake of things but I'd still prefer other lynches first.

Slaxx is shooting up the scumlist.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:44 pm

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Lol I'm not buddying. And even so you only pointed it out after I FoSed you for not voting ani, you're obv buddy.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:13 pm

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OK, just did a reread, updated reads below:

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doesn't look good on a reread. He's given a few opinions, but overall has basically just defended himself and voted lurkers. I'm still not really seeing the paranoia of his first comment that makes him scum, but I always have a hard time picking up on the gut-scummy stuff, so. I think I'm going to put that post down to playstyle, and I can't fault someone for disagreeing on theory. Doing so is a great way to look like you're contributing when you're not, however, so kunk is still scummy.

Nacho
has dropped off significantly since I've begun to read his play better. His posting still seems like it would be a great way for scum to get by without much effort, but I like what he's been saying so far. Leaning town.

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has actually dropped on my scumdar after my reread. I don't know what it is, but I'm getting a gut town read on him. I feel like scum would, I don't know, try to disguise their uselessness a bit more.

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is a complete null. Has done absolutely nothing, needs to step it up.

slaxx
is playing a very townie game, his posting is as clear, concise, and sincere as always.

Navy
is still null, even though he's contributed more than Looker and Nikanor combined. I just haven't gotten a good read on him yet, hopefully that can be rectified soon.

CMAR
is solidifying in my scum reads, due to his continued absence in this thread. His predecessor was lurky, only placed a RV when slaxx called him out on it, and then disappeared. CMAR has been no better. I would support a CMAR wagon if we could get it going.

Nikanor
is also null for me. Minimal input, minimal involvement. I need more from him.

ani
is still scum. Read him in ISO. 75% of his posts have to do with the RQS, which he took way too seriously, like he was trying to get it to pass for scumhunting. The rest contain minimal effort beyond buddying with Starbuck and Navy. His lurking now that he's become the popular wagon is pretty telling.

Parama
is looking quite town in this game, which is actually a first for me in games with him. I guess I'm getting used to his playstyle now, but yeah, he looks good to me.

Confirm vote: ani


Other lynches I would agree to: CMAR, kunk, Looker.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:19 pm

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Parama wrote:Okay I need to read more.
This is Nico overreacting in a similar way that kunk did. Can't believe I missed this.
You're missing the point. Your justification for voting me was that I said my town play was scummy. Yet, Starbuck said the exact same thing. I don't mind random votes when they're truly random, or when the logic behind them is consistent, but when you pick and choose your data to arrive at your desired conclusion it makes me wonder.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:40 pm

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I seriously can't believe Ani and Parama haven't already been lynched. And I trusted this town too.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:58 pm

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I'm happy with my vote, especially because Parama keeps reaching by trying to put words in my mouth.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:02 pm

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Starbuck , we can get his partner today. We'll lynch Parama tomorrow.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:40 pm

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Why are you trying to set up lynches?


For the record, how many of you really have experience with animo?
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:42 pm

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Its fun, and this game is dwindling when it comes to activity. I'm being as controversial as possible to try to spark discussion.

I have played with ani scum before I think. It was a fire and ice mafia game modded by CSL if its the one im thinking of.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:22 pm

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I thought I was replaced. If not, I guess I can step it up...or at least step to it.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:41 am

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Slaxx is contradicting himself by attacking me.
Defends me for 7 pages, pulls a huge 180 and sticks me on his scumlist. No reason given for the switch.
Does not make any sense at all. Heck, not much Slaxx has done makes sense. Am I scum for defending Ani? If so, then if he flips town after you guys lynch him today I'll lolololol.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:42 am

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Note to Slaxx: Mafia NEVER obviously buddy their partners. Or maybe the WIFOM factor from being so obvious means they would do such.
Regardless, point out one time where I have "defended" Ani. Not against his lynch but there are 3 or 4 people who need to die first.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:43 am

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Slaxx never appears on your "scum" lists, btw.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:44 am

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He's not in the top 3. And he's only recently made his way up my scum list.
There goes the entire point of your last post.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:37 am

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You didn't seem to mind his buddying when it benefitted you.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:55 am

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Slaxx wrote:I seriously can't believe Ani and Parama haven't already been lynched. And I trusted this town too.
Slaxx, I'm not seeing the Parama wagon, so far despite a little reaching I think overall he has been leaning town.

Well, I still wish Looker would show up better, he's one of my top choices. Actually, reviewing my choices for lynches, most would be lurkers, because the more active players all seem townish, Parama's buddying points on Slaxx are poor, if anything it seems to me that Parama is trying once again reaching.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:35 am

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Starbuck wrote:You didn't seem to mind his buddying when it benefitted you.
I didn't comment on it because I didn't want to return the buddying and establish a link. Now it's getting ridiculous.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:45 am

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Parama wrote:Slaxx is contradicting himself by attacking me.
Defends me for 7 pages, pulls a huge 180 and sticks me on his scumlist. No reason given for the switch.
Looks to me like he's reacting to you calling him out for the buddying (which he denies but I think is present).

However, it does seem like you're way overreacting to this.
Slaxx wrote:Starbuck , we can get his partner today. We'll lynch Parama tomorrow.
setting up lynches is icky
Slaxx wrote:I'm being as controversial as possible to try to spark discussion.
and you realize that admitting your scumminess doesn't make you any less scummy, correct?

I think there's definitely scum in Slaxx/Parama, at least one of them, probably not both but I wouldn't rule it out.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:22 am

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NavyCherub wrote:
Parama wrote:Slaxx is contradicting himself by attacking me.
Defends me for 7 pages, pulls a huge 180 and sticks me on his scumlist. No reason given for the switch.
Looks to me like he's reacting to you calling him out for the buddying (which he denies but I think is present).

However, it does seem like you're way overreacting to this.
I don't think it's possible to overreact to obvious buddying attempts because they are generally done by scum and thus a great reason for alarm.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:23 am

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Which is exactly why you waited until it didn't benefit you anymore to point it out.
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:24 am

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Parama wrote:
Starbuck wrote:You didn't seem to mind his buddying when it benefitted you.
I didn't comment on it because I didn't want to return the buddying and establish a link. Now it's getting ridiculous.
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:02 am

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@Starbuck: I have experience with Ani town, and I've read games with AniScum. The over-seriousness with the RQS combined with a failure to do anything else with a side of posting everywhere else BUT here suggests AniScum. What's making you disagree? Also, I think everyone's understood your case on Parama, so you can stop presenting it now. More than one scum read is good.

Navy, what makes you think Slaxxx/Parama scum? Who more? Why? Why not together?

Nico, I see reads, but I don't see how you're working to develop them...
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