Based on your rather extensive back-and-forth with Sens. You posted several "she may think this" "she may think that" posts.Elmocrates wrote:Based on what? I don't think that's true at all.Papa Zito wrote:You (one of you?) has been something of an elf apologist.
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In order to speed things up, since she may not come online until later, I'll provide the link to that game: hereElmocrates wrote:
Where is GNE? Can you please link to the game, or if not then tell me where it was? Or at least give some indication that this game is really out there. Because if you're telling the truth, putting that game in front of us is absolutely your best move at the moment. I mean, it should be really really easy to prove that Sens is lying right now, and getting a guaranteed scum lynch should make you ecstatic, right?xofelf wrote:On GNE there was one game that we played
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*It was a grand total of 10 pages, including sign-ups and confirms
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Because calling someone your scum-buddy in the RVS is a null tell.J-Scope wrote:@SPS: Why did you think the Els wagon was dumb?
You're right: if Sens is making it all up, then obviously town make that comment. I mostly meant that I can't imagine town lying about something like that.Elmocrates wrote:
Assuming Sens is scum & lying, why?Steam-Powered Shovel wrote:Elmocrates, lying would definitely be bad play from xofelfscum, but I really can't imagine town making that comment.
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I find our lack of DGB disturbing.
Elmo:Elmo 487 wrote:Whether she actually does is irrelevant. She might mistakenly believe she does.Elmo 491 wrote:Unless you think xofelf's meta skills are perfect, there is some reasonable chance that she genuinely thought she had a meta tell on you.Elmo 496 wrote:It doesn't tell you which games she's read; she might have read previous games where you were scum.
These kinds of quotes are what I'm talking about. I found it weird that you'd make assumptions about xofelf while slamming Sens for making assumptions about xofelf. Or posting any of these at all and just letting xofelf dig her own grave.Elmo 507 wrote: I just don't see how "not being the type" can be so strong that you immediately think she's lying when she asserts a meta read on you.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Sure you can't, but I'd expect people to want xofelf to be the one to respond to it, not Elmo.Jack wrote:I agree with what Elmo was saying in those quotes. You can't just claim someone is lying if it's reasonable to say that they could just be mistaken.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Sorry I meant to ask "But how is it OMGUS if you never attacked him?"Papa Zito wrote:
He voted me in 310.ooba wrote:316: @Papa Zito: OMGUS? Iecerint never attacked you?
Here are the seven posts in the game you made before thatPost 1 wrote:vote: farside
Wagon gogogo.
Wait, I've already tried this before.
unvote: farside
vote: Sensfan
Policy gogogo.Post 2 wrote:
Sorry, confidential.Kmd4390 wrote:
Elaborate please.Papa Zito wrote:vote: Sensfan
Policy gogogo.Post 3 wrote:unvote: Sensfan
vote: MehPlusRawr
Post.Post 4 wrote:Guys.
Confirmed and 0 posts. I call shenanigans. Lynch plz.MÃriel Therindë wrote:7. MehPlusRawr
Bold means Confirmed.Post 5 wrote:
The Sens vote had nothing to do with reactions. Confidential = private.Kmd4390 wrote:
This isn't a good way to play. "OMG I'm getting all these reactions" isn't a reason not to expand on why Sens would be a good policy lynch.Papa Zito wrote:
Sorry, confidential.Elaborate please.
Also, happy birthday.Post 6 wrote:
Glad you're amused. It's a game, after all.Budja wrote:Zito's lurker hunt amuses me. Your being alittlehypocritical there. So what you think of xvart? Jack? etc. (That kind-of grammatically sucks )
I haven't gotten much of anything out of these pages. Everything's too splintered. I can say I'm fairly confident that xofelf is scum though... lots and lots of talking about playstyles and meta and other crap. Have an iso look.
I'd be voting there if I didn't think MehPlusRawr's lurking (is that a hydra?) was more egregious.
Followed by this post where you claim OMGUSPost 7 wrote:
So I iso'd xvart.Budja wrote:xvart seems to compulsively misrep/generalise. Agree/disagree? Scummy or not?
He's extremely defensive and sarcastic, and I see a bit of backpedaling here and there. Most of his interactions with people are knee-jerk. The major sticking point here seems to be the claiming scumbuddies bit. Apparently his opinion is that claiming scumbuddies, even in jest, is scummy. If that's his opinion, and he's following through, so be it. His iso 10 seems to honestly sums up his activity.
A random cop breadcrumb (if that's even what it was) is null. I would say all the people talking about it are worse than the one who did it.Budja wrote:Jack made a random cop breadcrumb comment and and produces little content. I found that scummy. Do you agree?
Lack of content, however, is true, and I agree that it's scummy. Also his reaction to a sudden wagon on him ("What, you don't find Cyberbob scummy?") was lulz.
It's a private matter, and as good a reason as any for an opening vote. That's really all there is to say about it.Kmd4390 wrote:I don't understand how it can hurt to tell us why Sens should be policy lynched. I don't see how it helps not to tell us. You are making no sense by witholding this.
I think that's everything to me. I'm going to read back and try to get more involved.
Two other things:
1. Now that MehPlusRawr has posted an incredibly lame case on Shovel, can we lynch him?
2. Also, the elmo hydra is pinging me for some reason.
Post 8 wrote:Thanks Iceman. Also OMGUS.
Well, if a player accuses me of OMGUS when there wasn't an attack from him in the first place - I'd take it pretty seriously (at least enough to follow up)Papa Zito wrote:
Well, see above. I don't think anyone takes OMGUS seriously anymore anyway.ooba wrote:I also realized that Papa Zito did not replay to Iecerint's post 318 where he enquires about the OMGUS
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Sorry I meant to ask "But how is it OMGUS if you never attacked him?"Papa Zito wrote:
He voted me in 310.ooba wrote:316: @Papa Zito: OMGUS? Iecerint never attacked you?
Here are the seven posts in the game you made before thatPost 1 wrote:vote: farside
Wagon gogogo.
Wait, I've already tried this before.
unvote: farside
vote: Sensfan
Policy gogogo.Post 2 wrote:
Sorry, confidential.Kmd4390 wrote:
Elaborate please.Papa Zito wrote:vote: Sensfan
Policy gogogo.Post 3 wrote:unvote: Sensfan
vote: MehPlusRawr
Post.Post 4 wrote:Guys.
Confirmed and 0 posts. I call shenanigans. Lynch plz.MÃriel Therindë wrote:7. MehPlusRawr
Bold means Confirmed.Post 5 wrote:
The Sens vote had nothing to do with reactions. Confidential = private.Kmd4390 wrote:
This isn't a good way to play. "OMG I'm getting all these reactions" isn't a reason not to expand on why Sens would be a good policy lynch.Papa Zito wrote:
Sorry, confidential.Elaborate please.
Also, happy birthday.Post 6 wrote:
Glad you're amused. It's a game, after all.Budja wrote:Zito's lurker hunt amuses me. Your being alittlehypocritical there. So what you think of xvart? Jack? etc. (That kind-of grammatically sucks )
I haven't gotten much of anything out of these pages. Everything's too splintered. I can say I'm fairly confident that xofelf is scum though... lots and lots of talking about playstyles and meta and other crap. Have an iso look.
I'd be voting there if I didn't think MehPlusRawr's lurking (is that a hydra?) was more egregious.
Followed by this post where you claim OMGUSPost 7 wrote:
So I iso'd xvart.Budja wrote:xvart seems to compulsively misrep/generalise. Agree/disagree? Scummy or not?
He's extremely defensive and sarcastic, and I see a bit of backpedaling here and there. Most of his interactions with people are knee-jerk. The major sticking point here seems to be the claiming scumbuddies bit. Apparently his opinion is that claiming scumbuddies, even in jest, is scummy. If that's his opinion, and he's following through, so be it. His iso 10 seems to honestly sums up his activity.
A random cop breadcrumb (if that's even what it was) is null. I would say all the people talking about it are worse than the one who did it.Budja wrote:Jack made a random cop breadcrumb comment and and produces little content. I found that scummy. Do you agree?
Lack of content, however, is true, and I agree that it's scummy. Also his reaction to a sudden wagon on him ("What, you don't find Cyberbob scummy?") was lulz.
It's a private matter, and as good a reason as any for an opening vote. That's really all there is to say about it.Kmd4390 wrote:I don't understand how it can hurt to tell us why Sens should be policy lynched. I don't see how it helps not to tell us. You are making no sense by witholding this.
I think that's everything to me. I'm going to read back and try to get more involved.
Two other things:
1. Now that MehPlusRawr has posted an incredibly lame case on Shovel, can we lynch him?
2. Also, the elmo hydra is pinging me for some reason.
Post 8 wrote:Thanks Iceman. Also OMGUS.
Well, if a player accuses me of OMGUS when there wasn't an attack from him in the first place - I'd take it pretty seriously (at least enough to follow up)Papa Zito wrote:
Well, see above. I don't think anyone takes OMGUS seriously anymore anyway.ooba wrote:I also realized that Papa Zito did not replay to Iecerint's post 318 where he enquires about the OMGUS
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I was using OMGUS in the literal sense. As in, I was saying to Iec "Oh My God You Suck" for voting me. I wasn't accusing him of anything.ooba wrote:
Sorry I meant to ask "But how is it OMGUS if you never attacked him?"Papa Zito wrote:
He voted me in 310.ooba wrote:316: @Papa Zito: OMGUS? Iecerint never attacked you?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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I don't see where I've made any assumptions about xofelf or "slammed" Sens. I don't think I've said Sens is suspicious or even incorrect - I dunno where you are getting this from.Papa Zito wrote:I found it weird that you'd make assumptions about xofelf while slamming Sens for making assumptions about xofelf.
I deliberately didn't post some stuff until she responded. I'm not sure why you think I shouldn't have posted the quoted.Papa Zito wrote:Or posting any of these at all and just letting xofelf dig her own grave.
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Tbh I completely forgot about the game- this is my first Theme Park game, so I wasn't coming to this forum. Then one day I was like "Oh, wait, that game probably started ages ago" and I facepalmed and came over here.Jack wrote:MehPlus, how come you confirmed but didn't post?
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If you don't see it I can't help you. I posted examples.Elmo wrote:
I don't see where I've made any assumptions about xofelf or "slammed" Sens. I don't think I've said Sens is suspicious or even incorrect - I dunno where you are getting this from.Papa Zito wrote:I found it weird that you'd make assumptions about xofelf while slamming Sens for making assumptions about xofelf.
Slamming Sens in the post of posting about nothing else, to nobody else, many times. Inb4 "I don't see"
Obviously.Elmo wrote:I'm not sure why you think I shouldn't have posted the quoted.
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Well, if you don't do something like point out what assumptions you're talking about, this isn't really going anywhere. Obviously I assume things like "Jack is human" if you're going to be literal about it, in which case I have no idea.Papa Zito wrote:If you don't see it I can't help you. I posted examples.
How is asking Sens questions = slamming Sens? Or do you have some bizarre definition of slamming?Papa Zito wrote:Slamming Sens in the post of posting about nothing else, to nobody else, many times. Inb4 "I don't see"
So maybe explain why you think that if you want a useful response?Papa Zito wrote:
Obviously.Elmo wrote:I'm not sure why you think I shouldn't have posted the quoted.
This conversation looks pretty retarded from where I'm sitting, yeah.Papa Zito wrote:tl;dr This conversation is retarded though overzealous defense is interesting.
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I didn't evasively do anything; and of course there was motivation behind the original statement. I left it where I did about not making a direct comment because I was trying to get Budja to explain exactly how I was misrepresenting him. I didn't in direct content because I didn't make any literal statements about him. The only thing that could even remotely be misconstrued as misrepresentation would be the assumption of wagon hopping, which I was hoping to get him to respond to. He was very unclear and made no support on how I misrepresented him, and given my poor track record of misrepresenting people so far this game I wanted it to be clear that I wasn't doing it again. I believe he was trying to undercut me by throwing out the buzz word "misrep" and "xvart" in the same sentence since those two words have become synonymous in the early day one game.Jack wrote:You evasively claimed that you "hadn't made a direct comment" about him or said "Budja does this or that". But by your own admission you were accusing him of jumping on wagons scummily and for no reason (don't try and claim that you were just matter of factly pointing it out, this is mafia).
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what do you think of sens (just iso him to check) I did and it appears a large part of what he's been involved in can fall into 2 main things 1) early rvs dicsussion, which was fair enough and 2)xofelf hate.Drippereth wrote:I changed my mind about xofelf, after careful examination and much soul-wrenching. She's town.
sens who else do you think is scum? or if you've actually said that before and I've missed it, sorry, but a post number would be helpful.This is the hydra account for Jahudo and Faraday.-
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missed this due to the quote being odd, but yeah. I've done it before myself so I see it as a reasonable thing to do.farside22 wrote:
so you think that xvart's point against Elscouta comment is correct? You find that him pushing the issue is normal?j-scope
I don't really see anything over the top about it really.
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