Why did you post this?Steam-Powered Shovel wrote:Lack of asking for a claim is a dead giveaway, nice try though, Jack.
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If you're playing in a way you would not describe as pro-town, you're doing something wrong.
I'm not saying I'm more likely to be town here, if that's what you're thinking. I'm taking a stance on what's good early-game play. Obviously my early-game play is based on my beliefs regarding what's good early-game play.
Iecerint, was I not allowed to react to Jack's fake daykill?The great advantage of the tiger in unarmed combat is that he eats not only the raspberry-laden foe but also the raspberries.-
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These posts really don't help.Cyberbob wrote:Our "duel" wouldn't have been anywhere near as enduring if he a) could write and b) could read
Cobalt, if I said you were avoiding commenting on most of the game by intentionally tunnelling on Bob, what would you say?
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That is a bit of a false dilemma.Steam-Powered Shovel wrote:If you're playing in a way you would not describe as pro-town, you're doing something wrong.
Every action a person takes could be described as pro-town, if the end result is helping them catching scum.
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SocioPath, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Don't you agree that people in a way that they feel benefits the town?
Iecerint, if we're not supposed to react to it, then why would scum need to alert their buddies? And I wouldn't have posted that if CB hadn't reacted first since I am aware that his reaction is most important.The great advantage of the tiger in unarmed combat is that he eats not only the raspberry-laden foe but also the raspberries.-
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Is it true that it is poor play for scum to react to a fake daykill? Yep. Does that mean that it is not scummy to react to a fake daykill prematurely (since scum "shouldn't" react)? No, it is still scummy. That is the same logical error I think 'crates was making when he wrote off Jack's behavior prematurely.
Your outburst is anti-town at best, but you appear aware of the value of evaluating reactions that result from a fake daykill, so the likelihood of that explanation is less than the general case IMO.-
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You were bandwagoning more than in the early stage.Steam-Powered Shovel wrote:Lack of asking for a claim is a dead giveaway, nice try though, Jack.
Early-game bandwagonning is pro-town, certainly in big games. But you are right that I haven't done enough scumhunting; I just don't have a feel for this game. There's too much discussion about inconsequential tidbits.MehPlusRawr wrote:Wagoning may not be a scumtell, but pushing a pointless wagon is anti-town, and wagoning instead of scumhunting is anti-town. :X-
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I've seen Sens participating somewhat in the game. I've seen elf do exactly 0. To me there's a fairly substantial difference between the two.farside22 wrote:
I'm thinking those calling out elf and neglecting sens are using bs reasoning.Papa Zito wrote:
So you're looking at elf and thinking "yeah, that's a townie" right?farside22 wrote:I'd like to lynch SPS, Sens or papa zito. Those calling out elf over sens who is pretty much doing the same thing all get myFOS.
Hey something happened. Where's Plum?Jack wrote:Kill:CyberBob
Hate to waste it this early; but it's for the good of the game.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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I wanted to wait for confirmation from Plum before I posted this. It's a little outdated, but it may address some of SX's concerns:
My understanding of Jack is not meta-derived. At worst, Jack posted it so I would think he was town, but that is WIFOM and not the default interpretation of his behavior IMO. His rhetoric just after posting it ("WHY WOULD SCUM DO THAT") is still slightly scummy, maybe, but I'm inclined to think it was a failed attempt to defuse the situation, and other rhetorical avenues really would not have been as feasible or profitable AFAIK.
Basically, I now know why he posted the very first bit, and said reason was not scummy. Slightly pro-town if anything. Cannot elaborate further.
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Ok so spyreX, besides me and SPS, who do you find suspicious?
I think xvart has been very scummy.
I agree with this. And that's one reason why it's acceptable to policy lynch people for being rude btw.SocioPath wrote:All I know is if either of them actually replace out of the game, those that pushed them based on reasons they specifically said not to, I will go on a warpath towards those that caused such.
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That's ridiculous. Xofelf has done absolutely nothing in this game except bring up the fact we 'dated' 6 months ago and claim some bullshit meta-tell on me, that I know she doesn't have.farside22 wrote:
Thats the point Star. I saw papa call out elf on this but said nothing about sens doing the same. Why are some people ignoring one over the other?Starbuck wrote:Farside, they are both bringing their personal issues into the game.
I really don't understand how people can be all over one of them, but not the other.
I started the game off by playing normally, and have asked people specifically to stop talking about the out-of-game drama xofelf is bringing in.
Xofelf has used Appeal to Emotion (I've been waiting for this game for so long; If it weren't for my current relationship I'd say something to get myself banned; etc) and done basically nothing else except focus on me from her first post, and lie about her ability to read me when trying to cover up the blatant tunelling.-
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I'm not sure. Maybe they are focusing on the one that started making a bigger deal out of it first?farside22 wrote:
Thats the point Star. I saw papa call out elf on this but said nothing about sens doing the same. Why are some people ignoring one over the other?Starbuck wrote:Farside, they are both bringing their personal issues into the game.
I really don't understand how people can be all over one of them, but not the other.
I just want it to stop or I want them both to replace out, so that they don't ruin the enjoyability of the game.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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Well, see, two is a good starting point at this juncture for me. I'm not gonna try and hunt down all the jerks at the mo'.Ok so spyreX, besides me and SPS, who do you find suspicious?
However, 17 pages in? I'm really not satisfied with the number of sheer lurkers we have (using the basic test of "did I remember offhand they were in the game):
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Yea, this list I would be shocked, awed and sad if it was all town.
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