because I'd rather see it shoved down his throatWhy don't you tell your scumpartner Riley to take my avatar before I shove it down his throat?
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DoItRiley Townie
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DarkLightA Mafia Scum
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vote: DoItRiley
Get an avatar.
As far as I understand, this is the set-up:
Where the lover couples are:
If this is the case, I'm thinking that a couple-claiming being good. Assuming that the claims are legitimate (as there's no reason they shouldn't be), and that scum make NKs, these are the possible statuses of the game when we hit the scum+town pair and
And it will be day, so people can vote at all the status stages.
Also, there's a fair chance that we can pick out the scum pair through pair claims (scum will be against being lynched, you know, while town should cooperate.)
Therefore I think there's about 3/4 or even more likely that one of the two latter outcomes will happen, and I think that's a fair chance to take. After all, in the worst of those two outcomes, with only townies on the town side, the town will have a lynch opportunity D3 and a MYLO on D4.
I hope this makes sense.
Don't claim yet, couples. I'd like to hear what others say about it.
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Yankee Goon
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one quick note: I am fairly sure that the layout is 2 Mafia goons and a third "Treacherous Lover" that is also Mafia. So instead of just 2 goons where one is the treacherous lover like I think you are saying, there is actually 3 mafia. And I dont think a Mass claim would be good, My opinion is that one person from each lover set should claim and we decide between the two of them. The reason I say only one lover claim is because if both claim and we kill the treacherous lover pair day one, then the mafia have 2 targets to kill for a 2 for 1 NK if you get what I am saying.Town: 4-4-0
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DarkLightA Mafia Scum
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Robocopter87 Jack of All Trades
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That makes sense and is pretty smart. But that would make the Mafia know both lovers that are mainly town.
Like, if we have one person from each claim then we know that either one of these is partner to mafia. But if we kill the one with Mafia the Mafia will NK the other two lovers getting a double kill.Although the border between madness and genius is very narrow.
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Yankee Goon
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i think you misunderstand me Robo.
What I am saying is that ONLY one person from each Lover pair claim. That way if we kill the Treacherous lover pair, we know it and only one of the other lovers is claimed so the doctor can protect them from a NK that night.... So we dont risk losing the town lovers in that situation, unless the mafia randomly pick the other lover that night...Town: 4-4-0
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DoItRiley Townie
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DoItRiley Townie
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DarkLightA Mafia Scum
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The thing is that with the mass-claim of all the lovers, you could easily spot the mafia, as they would be the only one hesitating to commit suicide.Yankee wrote:i think you misunderstand me Robo.
What I am saying is that ONLY one person from each Lover pair claim. That way if we kill the Treacherous lover pair, we know it and only one of the other lovers is claimed so the doctor can protect them from a NK that night.... So we dont risk losing the town lovers in that situation, unless the mafia randomly pick the other lover that night...
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Yankee, that actually makes sense! A protection would make it clear!
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DoItRiley wrote:Yeah okay how about we just not mass claim, sound good?Un-random-vote: DoItRiley
Vote: DoItRiley
Die scum.
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Well, I'm saying that I think the most likely outcome, if both pairs claimed, was that we could pick out the scum from these people, as (s)he would be hesitant to be lynched. However, I forgot that scum would NK the other pair.Yankee wrote:Also, DLA, i dont understand what you are saying. Most likely outcome? What do you mean by this?
Actually, scum only have a 50% chance to NK the right part of the pair, given the doctor's protection.
I say we have 1 person from both lover pairs claim, and kill off one. Then we know the other one is town/scum.
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Well, what DoItRiley did is a bunch of what I like to call "lurk work". It looks like no work, time and effort put in, but really it's pretty unhelpful and useless at this stage in the game. It's irrelevant. What that did was tell us absolutely a lot: that he's scum.DoItRiley wrote:Well, what DLA did is a bunch of what I like to call "busy work". It looks like a whole bunch of work, time, and effort put in, it looks like to post, but really it's pretty unhelpful and useless at this stage in the game. It's irrelevant. What that did was tell us absolutely nothing.
Question DoItRiley, have you played mafia before? How much?
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DarkLightA Mafia Scum
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Nikanor Jack of All Trades
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DoItRiley Townie
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Nice OMGUS. Considering your vote has absolutely no logical reasoning behind it that would point to me being scum that's what I'm labeling it as, OMGUS. It's a "bah Riley doesn't agree with me =(" crap vote. Here's the stupidity behind your logic. Lovers claim and we mislynch, scum kills someone at night and we're in the shitter on D2. I don't know about you...but I don't like being in the shitter on D2. Makes no sense to me.
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XScorpion Mafia Scum
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DoItRiley wrote:Nice OMGUS. Considering your vote has absolutely no logical reasoning behind it that would point to me being scum that's what I'm labeling it as, OMGUS.
-----DLA wrote:Scum would be the only ones trying to oppose breaking the setup.
XDXDXDXD That gave me my daily laugh XDXDXScopion wrote:It was REALLY clear to me that there were 3 scum when I signed up. Scumpoints for what looks like him trying to trick people into thinking there were only 2.
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Can you give reasoning? What do you oppose in my plan?XScorpion wrote:Not to mention that I think it's an absolutely horrible idea for massclaim.
-----DoItRiley wrote:And according to your join date I've been on this site for nine months longer than you.
Fail?DoItRiley's profile wrote:Joined: 27 Mar 2010
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Things I'm waiting for until my next post:- Nikanor's comment.
- DoItRiley's answer to the question: how many games have you played.
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XScorpion Mafia Scum
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I don't like how you're essentially gambling on a 50-50 shot of getting ONE scum, and using this "plan" to completely avoid scumhunting.
Let's assume worst case scenario (which, with your plan, has about 50% probability of occurring - VERY HIGH). We lynch two town lovers today. At night, a townie or doctor dies. Next day, we lynch the other lovers. Another townie/doctor dies. We're now down 5 townspeople, and we only hit 1 mafia. I don't know about you, but I think that a 50% chance of losing FIVE townspeople just to hit 1 mafia is pretty horrible.
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DoItRiley Townie
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Nobody's breaking the setup DLA. Pointing out that doing all that dumb "work" you did was useless is not breaking the setup. If anything you're the one attempting to break the setup by having a massclaim instead of actually playing the game. And it's called an alt. I've played probably about twenty to thirty of games on this site and actually one or two with you.-
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Hey, I thought we were lovers.Yankee wrote:Vote: Nikanor
Do I need a reason? Plus he hasnt confirmed yet..... noob
Some people *glances at XScorpion* should read this. It's the last Mini Love game that was run on this site, afaik. The last time someone tried to push for a lovers massclaim they were town, although that person was trying to get lovers to claim for a much different reason. Just a heads up that although I think DLA is scum, it's not for his massclaim idea.
Uhm, no. Sorry, but that's not a scumtell either. I know you're trying, but you should learn what does and what doesn't constitute a scumtell.XScorpion wrote:It was REALLY clear to me that there were 3 scum when I signed up. Scumpoints for what looks like him trying to trick people into thinking there were only 2.
Not true. In the Mini Love game I linked to, two of the three scum opposed the setup, but an equal number of townies also opposed the setup.DLA wrote:Scum would be the only ones trying to oppose breaking the setup.
DLA, how is this a scum tell?Riley wrote:Yeah okay how about we just not mass claim, sound good?
The only lover claim I'll support is Yankee's idea, although I do not support lover lynches today.I am in the bottom 10% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Yankee Goon
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Actually I was in the middle of posting something about your last post Nikanor about how I didnt understand how claiming lovers today and not lynching them made any sense, but then i thought about it for a minute, and that is like a safety net almost. The town lovers probably wouldnt be NK'ed because that would give away the treacherous lover pair, and even if they were, then we can choose to kill the other lover pair the next day, or just keep scum hunting knowing that the treacherous lover is in that lover group (i would vote to lynch personally). The only drawback I see to this is it may complicate things later on in the game when we get close to lylo, it could pose major problems if we dont lynch a lover pair on day one. But a benefit is that the doctor wouldnt be tied down on protecting a lover on Night 1 which is always a plus.Town: 4-4-0
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