Mini 927: Alabama Correctional Facility - OVER

[Cobalt]

Leg work on the last point?

was this at me?

[farside22]

Okay so looking at SAMP in isolation there were a things I found that scream scum to me.
1)

Cobalt, I will not tolerate you brushing me off. You WILL answer 120 and 124 in your next post. If you do not, I will relentlessly push for your lynch for the rest of the game with no regard for any alternative lynch whatsoever, except in the case of a guilty investigation or other concrete proof of guilt on another player.

However when he see's it's not going he says he's going to his number 2 suspection which is min.
You know what the probablem is with him saying it's his number 2.
It's his numbers

Shove:
UncertainKitten 5

Minineko 1

Ellibereth 7
Jahudo 10
SpyreX 6
Max 11
farside22 9
HackerHuck 3
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 8
Cobalt 12
pwnman 2
Grimmy 4

Shove:
UncertainKitten 6

Minineko 2

Ellibereth 10
Jahudo 7
SpyreX 5
Max 9
farside22 8
HackerHuck 1
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 3
Cobalt 11
Grimmy 4

Shove:
UncertainKitten 6

Minineko 1

Ellibereth 8
Jahudo 5
SpyreX 10
Max 9
farside22 7
HackerHuck 2
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 3
Cobalt 11
Grimmy 4

Not really a fan of either a Hacker or Neko lynch today but since Cobalt slithered out of the top spot I guess I don't have any choice but to give up on him today I think Neko's more likely to be one of his buddies, so

Shove:
UncertainKitten 5

Minineko 11

Ellibereth 7
Jahudo 4
SpyreX 9
Max 8
farside22 6
HackerHuck 1
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 2
Cobalt 10
Grimmy 3

For more then half the day Mini was at 1 or 2 in the shove order with either Max, spyrex or Eli towards the bottom. This looks like a complete BS comment at the end.

[SpyreX]

@Cobalt: Yes.

@Farside: Hmmmm, interesting.

[farside22]

The only reason I can see SAMP stating this comment that looks more likely scum is looking at the last standing before the lynch

4.8 Ellibereth
5.1 farside22
5.4 Jahudo
5.5 Max
5.6 Slicey
5.7 SpyreX
6.5 Grimmy
6.9 Minineko
6.9 Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
6.9 Cobalt
7.5 HackerHuck

Cobalt was moving up so I could see instead of scum backtracking to say lets lynch HH he picked Minieko because he was about the same standing as SAMP and he can ensure his own safety.

Right now my vote is on SAMP.

[Jahudo]

I didn't hear anything from any vent. And I don't have a PR.

What's this about me and UncertainSlicey being scumbuddies? Three people say it's possible, bu no reasoning yet. Are you guys telepathic or what?

[farside22]

I didn't hear anything from any vent. And I don't have a PR.

What's this about me and UncertainSlicey being scumbuddies? Three people say it's possible, bu no reasoning yet. Are you guys telepathic or what?

Really and what 3 people called you scum buddies together?

[Jahudo]

Opps, I mis-read Elli. He didn't say anything about UK/Slicey.

And ok, farside you didn't try to connect me to Slicey but you think we're both scum and I don't know why you think I'm scum (or why UK's posts are not her town meta?).

Grimmy has tried to connect me to Slicey, and I don't know why.

I think the scum found a way to keep jahudo out of everyones radar, and a combination of his disappearance and avoidance by kitten makes me suspect him (and slicey by default).

Something UK did makes Grimmy suspect me.

Its all about me being suspicious of Grimmy and making sure noone's trying to defend him by helping his attacks. I don't see that though.

[farside22]

Jahudo: Can you expand on why you thought me and HH had similar actions/comment upon pwnman's claim?

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

farside why are you not paying attention? I've only said this a trillion times already:

MY SHOVE LIST, EXCEPT FOR COBALT, WAS INVERTED TO THE ACTUAL RANKINGS. THIS WAS A TACTIC TO LYNCH COBALT,

NOT A REFLECTION OF MY SCUMMINESS RANKINGS

.

I swear to god, I'm NOT saying this again.

[Cobalt]

hey SAMP
who is scum
(besides you)

[Jahudo]

Jahudo: Can you expand on why you thought me and HH had similar actions/comment upon pwnman's claim?

I thought HH had made that comment about role PMs before pwnman was officially modkilled, which could have helped explain his vague initial post after the pwnman claim. So I was incorrect in saying your reactions were similar.

However, the point I was making was that I thought you and HH looked town based on that timeframe, whereas Elli and to a lesser extent UncertainKitten's reactions look questionable. They both acknowledged his claim and thought about how he could still be scum without mentioning their own PMs. (UK did eventually, but I don't think Elli did?)

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

hey SAMP
who is scum
(besides you)

my scumbuddies are pwnman and Hacker and we're all reverse death millers

You and Elli.

Stevie Wonder could see that you two have been pushing all the scummy wagons this game.

[farside22]

Since SAMP you never stated any suspicion of Mini before that shove or saying anything before. Why do you think mini is scum?

[farside22]

Also @ Jahudo: Did you ever saying anything about making your ranking like SAMP did to push Colbalt down with the same reasoning.

[Grimmy]

@Grimmy:

I think the scum found a way to keep jahudo out of everyones radar, and a combination of his disappearance and avoidance by kitten makes me suspect him (and slicey by default). Sliceys play since joining hasnt helped the cause, but hasnt really hurt it either. (hasnt moved the needle in either way)

What does this all mean?

they were two different thoughts.

-i think you, as scum, were pushed towards the middle to hide you and help you fly under the radar.
-I think kitten is another scum both because of his lack of play when he did show up, and the combined with slicey's play to this point, im pegging slicey as the second one.

Are you calling me scum, or saying scum aren't attacking me?

Yes. I think the scum worked together to push more opportunistic lynches to the end and positioned themselves more towards the middle. On day one, everyone either had a really townie read, or a really scummy read. I think the scum rode this way to medoicrity, and therefore ended up hiding in the middle.

What is my disapearance and what is the avoidance by UncertainKitten?

it was two two two thoughts in one!
the disappearance stuff was for kitten. not you.

I think his post 342 is scummy, and he's my 3rd suspect at the moment.

The reads from that post are vague because he calls them "feels" and "vibes", but doesn't explain them. He doesn't really explain what his top suspects did to get in his 9/10/11 spots.
Grimmy: Where is your reasoning?

(Grimmy taps his forehead)

I couldnt put the reasons into words without them sounding...well...not strong enough to push for a lynch (or lynch for a push, with the system we were using)
My suspicions tend to grow as the game goes along further.

He also says the Hacker lynch happened by opportunistic scum, yet he placed HH as his 8 pick. Grimmy: How do you balance those two things?

a modified version of the hokey pokey.
Put your left foot in...etc.

I put the people on my push list in the order of how scummish I think they were. There were others who looked more scummy to me, hence their places on the list. While I wasnt completely sure of Hackers lynch, I didnt have a strong enough arguement for anyone else as the time to push for his life.

I'm even more floored at Max being the NK.

Why? Are you trying to read into the NK, or just making a comment?

My thoughts, since Im already on this post.
I think its a combination of a post restriction, a message about last nights events (in secret) and his thoughts on the NK.

As for me, I slept soundly as far as I know, and did not hear a peep, bang, or any other type of sound last night.

Grimmy

[Jahudo]

Also @ Jahudo: Did you ever saying anything about making your ranking like SAMP did to push Colbalt down with the same reasoning.

We both seemed to invert to maximize the possibility of a Cobalt lynch, but I don't see where he felt Hacker or Mini lynches were bad. Just that a Cobalt lynch was the best available. I was starting to see Hacker and Mini as town or less scummy through their own actions.

it was two two two thoughts in one!
the disappearance stuff was for kitten. not you.

Ok, I thought you were talking about me because I saw "he" and knew that kitten is a girl.

I put the people on my push list in the order of how scummish I think they were. There were others who looked more scummy to me, hence their places on the list. While I wasnt completely sure of Hackers lynch, I didnt have a strong enough arguement for anyone else as the time to push for his life.

And those other scummy people supported the Hacker lynch?

-i think you, as scum, were pushed towards the middle to hide you and help you fly under the radar.

Through inversions? Because everyone has a part in where I landed each time.
Also I was in slots 1-4 a good part of the day, so I wouldn't exactly call that the middle.

[farside22]

I read Mini in isolation and he's not a big talker from what I can see.
He had one post he quoted with a few views, some vague and some with certainity.
I think I would like to hear a bit more from him and his views on players. Or at least his top 3 scum suspects and why.

[SpyreX]

Mini needs to pipe up.

I don't agree with Grimmy on Jah but I REALLY like 390 a lot.

[farside22]

spryrex who do you think is scum and why?

Slicey needs to answer that question too.

[SpyreX]

If I had a handle on who was scum you'd know. All of the dead being town is still thrown me off base.

As for who I've got town-town vibes from? Grimmy and Elli. To an extent Jah and Cobalt.

The rest? Blah.

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Realistically we had a very useless day one and thats throwing me off in conjuntion with the dead. I'm not stoked.

[Cobalt]

hey SAMP
who is scum
(besides you)

my scumbuddies are pwnman and Hacker and we're all reverse death millers

You and Elli.

Stevie Wonder could see that you two have been pushing all the scummy wagons this game.

I'm still interested in why you don't see spyrex as scum with me.

[Cobalt]

MY SHOVE LIST, EXCEPT FOR COBALT, WAS INVERTED TO THE ACTUAL RANKINGS. THIS WAS A TACTIC TO LYNCH COBALT, NOT A REFLECTION OF MY SCUMMINESS RANKINGS.

[farside22]

Oh, it's certainly not proof he's town. I'm assuming DGB gave falseclaims to the scum. And "proving you are town" with a role PM quote does feel desperate.

First she says fail. Then ask you just quoted your role PM. Then says the above.
These comments all scream scum. It's like she knew it was his role PM but then covered it up saying scum probably have a fake claim.

[farside22]

If I had a handle on who was scum you'd know. All of the dead being town is still thrown me off base.

As for who I've got town-town vibes from? Grimmy and Elli. To an extent Jah and Cobalt.

The rest? Blah.

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Realistically we had a very useless day one and thats throwing me off in conjuntion with the dead. I'm not stoked.

I had an issue with Jah and well SAMP. They talk about this inverted system of the push but to me it's just hide scum intentions.
I think SAMP even pointed out saying we could look back on the shove count to find scum on it but if they just invert their numbers it gives nothing on them and something they can use to cover up the reason for their list.

Eli I have a firm town read on, somthing in my gut says mini is town and I think I can see scum using him for a mislynch.

[SpyreX]

Look up that SAMP thing because that would be a fishy bag of fish.

I would love your gut on mini because I have.. nothing. Absolutely nothing. Thats why the last minute hijinks yesterday rose a flag.