You based your vote based on the fact that I used the " " smiley? Really?
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ISO 5: I wasn't trying to imply that, so don't try and make it seem that waycrypto wrote:
ISO 13: I wasn't trying to say that Gut reads are scummy... I'm just saying that I hadn't done anything do deserve that read
ISO 21: I don't mind wagons on me most of the time... I was just saying it was a bullshit thing to try and say that Ythan is suspicious of me, when I didn't see any hint of it at all previously
ISO 22: What? It was a redundatant statement... I think that Ythan had saw it and then chose to ignore it.
ISO 30: It may not be a good scum tell, but it's not a very pro-town thing to do, don't you think?
ISO 31: I was calling you a hypocrite. Why you didn't ask yourself the same question, because if you did something and then asked a question of someone who did the same thing, why shouldn't you have to answer the question? (I think that question made sense... if not tell me and I can rephrase it)
ISO 41: "Why isn't he dead yet?" Nope, that's not trying to convince people to bandwagon, is it?
ISO 46: You ask a lot of questions.
1. I like the move because I think that Richard is scummy as well, and therefore I would support a Richard Lynch.
2. It doesn't have anything to do with your alignment... I probably should have left my feelings out of it.
3. I think you did it because you were going to try and get a mislynch (or you were bussing).
4. I didn't see you really give a good reason.
5. See number 3
ISO 49. Looking back, I agree with you there. Exclude that one from the list.
ISO 57: You took an interest in my scumminess? You admitted that you didn't have any evidence to go off of!
ISO 61: You haven't really explained any good ones
ISO 75: You immediately dismiss the possibility that you are scum because, well, it's you. I'm not buying itThe Clown is Town. The Clown also uses "they" pronouns. Don't be a dick about it?
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Because you're not voting me because of it. (At least I don't think that's the reason)Ythan wrote:I was the one who brought up the smiley, why not FoS me instead?The Clown is Town. The Clown also uses "they" pronouns. Don't be a dick about it?
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Screw it.
unvote:
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I'm offically capatilizing on a slip from someone who stated that WRP was paraphrasing a town PM when in fact there was nothing close to that being the town win condition and Crypto didn't recognize it means scum.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Looking back, I realize that I missed this post
I only have 1 completed game on here (I was doc)... I can give you the link if you want.DedicatedScribe wrote:
I remember when I as a town once did this. I got lynched. Ima check your meta, too.horrordude0215 wrote:Wow
Lynch me if you want, you'll just be 1 less villager away from winning. Of course, I know crypto's been out for my blood since the beginning of the game, mainly without reason, and my lack of sleep when posting that just gave him an opportunity to go in for the kill
As for my defense, I can only claim noob. I still am getting used to the site and sorry if my strategy is flawed or whatever
Unvoteuntil I can get a chance to reread and see if anyone is particularly scummy.
Why? I was pointing out that he is so biased about me that he wouldn't even think about not trying to lynch me.DedicatedScribe wrote:
I don't like the quip about cop claiming.horrordude0215 wrote:I don't feel like explaining myself to you anymore... It's not like it'll change your mind. I could claim cop and you'd still try and lynch meThe Clown is Town. The Clown also uses "they" pronouns. Don't be a dick about it?
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Depending on the circumstances, it's a phenomenally pro-town thing to do. Here, it was simply an indication that I was disgusted with and suspicious of Beater's play.horror wrote:ISO 30: It may not be a good scum tell, but it's not a very pro-town thing to do, don't you think?
I didn't ask myself the same question because (a) I already knew the answer and (b) in many situations I don't like being completely transparent about my reads.horror wrote:ISO 31: I was calling you a hypocrite. Why you didn't ask yourself the same question, because if you did something and then asked a question of someone who did the same thing, why shouldn't you have to answer the question? (I think that question made sense... if not tell me and I can rephrase it)
You've changed your argument. There's a gargantuan difference between "trying to rush the lynch" and "trying to convince people to bandwagon." Nice try.ISO 41: "Why isn't he dead yet?" Nope, that's not trying to convince people to bandwagon, is it?
You like my move just because I agreed with you? Mere agreement is a town tell? Or is town tell not what you mean by "like the move"?1. I like the move because I think that Richard is scummy as well, and therefore I would support a Richard Lynch.
Yes,3. I think you did it because you were going to try and get a mislynch (or you were bussing).whydo you think that? You're arbitrarily picking that over a town motivation.
Lack of tangible evidence means there's no scumminess I can take interest in?ISO 57: You took an interest in my scumminess? You admitted that you didn't have any evidence to go off of!
I don't feel the need to explain a bunch of reads when they're impertinent to the thread of conversation. Feel free to ask.ISO 61: You haven't really explained any good ones
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Honestly, why do you act like you're the freaking bee's knees? I can't help but get angry every time I read one of your posts.RichardGHP wrote:Why are you trying to lynch a Town PR?
But anyway, Richard's claim of watcher is believable for now I guess.
It has nothing to do with the timing but rather the reasoning. Which you yourself noted here. :/Riddick wrote:
Why was any of this FOS worthy? You should be voting for your top suspect, so if he felt that farside had done something scummy how is it premature to vote for her. Saying it's too early for serious votes is pretty stupid.
And what's all this talk of premature? So when exactly can you place a serious vote on someone? 4th page? Or do we have to wait longer?
Lynching people because they are acting like a newb and hoping they are scum = dumb strategy.Riddick wrote:
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF HE IS SCUM.jbernier93 wrote: Or we can try actually looking for scum?
Lynching people because they are acting scummy AND like a newb = better strategy.
Why?Riddick wrote: jbernier [is] probably scum
WRP_Beater wrote:Oh right there wasn't any night 0 O_O
Anyway Riddick, why did you daykill me without even asking once for a RC? Anyway, I am (or at least was) a VT. I win with the town. Also, I know now you can't cancel the daykill. Believe me, I'm a VT. Why would I lie when I am daykilled? You've just wasted a daykill.unvote
He's such a newb that I think I can believe this... for now.
Some people are newbs for longer than others... especially when most of their experience is off of the mafiascum website... frankly, this is the only website on which mafia is played correctly.SaintKerrigan wrote:I totally agree with Riddick re: WRP. I don't see a reason for a person experienced with Mafia to say "Why would I lie."
This looks like a way to obvious wagon hop.horrordude0215 wrote:Something tells me that Riddick's daykill was a test on WRP. and needless to say, he failed miserably.
Vote: WRP_Beater
I've never seen an appeal to emotion this bad.horrordude0215 wrote:Wow
Lynch me if you want, you'll just be 1 less villager away from winning. Of course, I know crypto's been out for my blood since the beginning of the game, mainly without reason, and my lack of sleep when posting that just gave him an opportunity to go in for the kill
As for my defense, I can only claim noob. I still am getting used to the site and sorry if my strategy is flawed or whatever
Unvoteuntil I can get a chance to reread and see if anyone is particularly scummy.
HOS:horrordudeRikenslope wrote:Ohhhh...sorry guys for the half-assed posting last time and the lack of postings till now. But I have been in the hospital as my GF had a kid...So little Rikenslope Jr.
Right...
My voting in the last post was misinterpeted as I didn't didn't see Richard posting a PR...still not entirely sure if it is true or if it is BS but since then Beater has gotten more and more scummy. I am not exactly sure if it is missteps or if he really is scummy but for now I am going to have to jump on the Beater Wagon.
Unvote Vote WRP_BeaterHOS:Rikenslopefor wagon hopping w/o giving any concrete reasoning.
Role distancing duly noted.Ythan wrote:Well I like it. I feel it suits the game even if I'm not an SK.
...You make me want to kill babies.RichardGHP wrote:
I'm just up for whatever the town decides, I never really feel like scumhunting on Day 1.
Farside, I love you.farside22 wrote:I would like to hear why everyone seems to think the same way you do; isn't weeding out those more concerned with saving their own asses than helping the town GOOD for said town?
Claiming at L-5 is saying your own ass.
Obviously farside's whole argument against you just went over your head.crypto wrote:
(condescending sigh)farside22 wrote:I'm offically capatilizing on a slip from someone who stated that WRP was paraphrasing a town PM when in fact there was nothing close to that being the town win condition and Crypto didn't recognize it means scum.WRP_Beater wrote:I win with the town.
Anywayvote: horrordude.0/2
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How is that paraphrasing a the town PM? You can keep avoiding the question but I'm quiet happy with my vote.crypto wrote:
(condescending sigh)farside22 wrote:I'm offically capatilizing on a slip from someone who stated that WRP was paraphrasing a town PM when in fact there was nothing close to that being the town win condition and Crypto didn't recognize it means scum.WRP_Beater wrote:I win with the town.
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Why didn't you say that in the post then?crypto wrote:
Depending on the circumstances, it's a phenomenally pro-town thing to do. Here, it was simply an indication that I was disgusted with and suspicious of Beater's play.horror wrote:ISO 30: It may not be a good scum tell, but it's not a very pro-town thing to do, don't you think?
Well now I'm asking you the question. Care to answer?crypto wrote:I didn't ask myself the same question because (a) I already knew the answer and (b) in many situations I don't like being completely transparent about my reads.
"Bandwagon with me so we can lynch him faster"... seems like pretty much the same thing.You've changed your argument. There's a gargantuan difference between "trying to rush the lynch" and "trying to convince people to bandwagon." Nice try.
I like the move because I would support a Richard lynch, that's all.You like my move just because I agreed with you? Mere agreement is a town tell? Or is town tell not what you mean by "like the move"?
Because you're scummy as hell and I think that you were doing it for the wagon.Yes,whydo you think that? You're arbitrarily picking that over a town motivation.
You haven't given me anything that I've done as scummy that I haven't already explained!Lack of tangible evidence means there's no scumminess I can take interest in?
Asking now, thanksI don't feel the need to explain a bunch of reads when they're impertinent to the thread of conversation. Feel free to ask.
I don't buy it... Just because you don't think his argument wasn't good enough doesn't mean that you're not scum. It almost seems like an OMGUS to meWow. This isn't rocket science. Take a long, hard look at this post and tell me my reason for FOSing Dr.Cyanide.The Clown is Town. The Clown also uses "they" pronouns. Don't be a dick about it?
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I've been avoiding the question? I don't know how to explain it any further.farside wrote:How is that paraphrasing a the town PM? You can keep avoiding the question but I'm quiet happy with my vote.It looks like town role PM paraphrasing.I cannot fucking recall ever receiving a town PM that does not state, "You win with the town," or "You win when all anti-town forces/roles/players/whatever are eliminated," or "The town wins when all anti-town forces are eliminated," or something like that.
Because I was unaware that you wouldn't see the implication . . .horror wrote:Why didn't you say that in the post then?
I unvoted you because at the time I found Beater scummier, for reasons I just outlined.Well now I'm asking you the question. Care to answer?
That is complete bullshit. Bandwagon, per se, in no way implies a speedy lynch. Especially not on day one. Sorry."Bandwagon with me so we can lynch him faster"... seems like pretty much the same thing.
So you think that was a scum move because you already have a scum read on me, which is based on a bullshit case. Confirmation bias is bad enough; confirmation bias backed by a bullshit case is far worse.Because you're scummy as hell and I think that you were doing it for the wagon.
What does that have to do with anything? If I have a gut read on you, then I certainly haven't asked any questions about that gut read, so you couldn't possibly have explained.You haven't given me anything that I've done as scummy that I haven't already explained!
We can argue all day about whether your scummy-looking posts like the one about Riddick's day kill test were scummy, but there's not really any solid logic for either of us to use. Your use of lack of sleep as an excuse isn't going to change my mind, and I certainly won't change your mind by refuting that excuse.
Sorry, no. I have neither the time nor the energy to belt out a player-by-player analysis text wall, and it's incredibly irrelevant. I also maintain that my reads, reasoned and unreasoned alike, are infinitely better than your lack of.Asking now, thanks
Wow. You are so full of it. "Shallow, lazy, [and] half hashed" all apply to faux scum hunting; faux scum hunting obviously applies to noncommittal scum.I don't buy it... Just because you don't think his argument wasn't good enough doesn't mean that you're not scum. It almost seems like an OMGUS to me-
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HMMMM....then what about the quote below?jbernier93 wrote: It has nothing to do with the timing but rather the reasoning. Which you yourself noted here. :/
^^ Looks timing related to me..unless you think it's too..premature for..bas reasoning, lolwat explain plz.jbernier93 wrote:
WOW that's kinda premature in my opinion. Actually very very premature.horrordude0215 wrote: However, I don't like that farside is avoiding the PR question... while it may not give us much to go on, anything is useful at this point.
Unvote and vote farside22fos:horrordude
This is true and correct but you didn't seem to consider him as scum, you said we could try looking for scum, I mean he could be newby and omygosh scummy too! Obviously the fact people were suspicious of him would mean this might be the case. HmmLynching people because they are acting like a newb and hoping they are scum = dumb strategy.
Lynching people because they are acting scummy AND like a newb = better strategy.
Scum read is a gut read, but yeah....
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I've used it before, and have seen it used successfully I'm pretty sure. It could be one of those things that scum might be more likely to theoretically do but maybe not do in practise. I'm not sure, I remember Ooba catching scum in .GIF mafia with it before although the details are fuzzy. You could be right though.DedicatedScribe wrote:
I don't see townies less likely to do this.Riddick wrote:
^^ I'm a fan of this tell actually.Ythan wrote:
Smiley in this posts reads to me as attempt to reduce the impact of the case indirectly.horrordude0215 wrote:Okay, what vibes from me are scummy?
On other things I don't find the role pm thing too interesting, I'm wary of any sort of slips on role pm wordings and things like that. I don't remember ever seeing scum caught with it before, tbh.
Farside why do you think Crypto scum would make that post if he's not town? And tbf Crypto's matching my meta of him atm, so I think he's town for that reason....
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I don't see a town person saying that what WRP stated is a paraphrasing of a PM. Do you see it as a paraphrasing?Farside why do you think Crypto scum would make that post if he's not town? And tbf Crypto's matching my meta of him atm, so I think he's town for that reason.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I don't remember what he actually first did, but when asked about it, he noobclaimed, appealed to emotion, tried to dismiss his case, and tried to put more suspicion on someone else. He is acting exactly like a newb scum would act (and how I acted as newb scum TWICE previously, and had it dismissed as just noobiness)SaintKerrigan wrote:Since no one bothered to do this last time, I'll ask again:
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He voted farside in a serious manner for one thing that was only vaguely scummy, if at all. That's what I meant by premature.Riddick wrote:
HMMMM....then what about the quote below?jbernier93 wrote: It has nothing to do with the timing but rather the reasoning. Which you yourself noted here. :/
^^ Looks timing related to me..unless you think it's too..premature for..bas reasoning, lolwat explain plz.jbernier93 wrote:
WOW that's kinda premature in my opinion. Actually very very premature.horrordude0215 wrote: However, I don't like that farside is avoiding the PR question... while it may not give us much to go on, anything is useful at this point.
Unvote and vote farside22fos:horrordude
Yes, but at the time of my initial posts regarding him, I did not find him to be scummy. The quote I was responding to essentially said that we should lynch him b/c he is a stupid noob, saying it would "set him straight." I disagreed.Riddick wrote:
This is true and correct but you didn't seem to consider him as scum, you said we could try looking for scum, I mean he could be newby and omygosh scummy too! Obviously the fact people were suspicious of him would mean this might be the case. HmmLynching people because they are acting like a newb and hoping they are scum = dumb strategy.
Lynching people because they are acting scummy AND like a newb = better strategy.
Scum read is a gut read, but yeah.
I dislike that you find me to be scum yet refuse to provide evidence of scummy things I have done. Unless you count the only things you've reacted to regarding me to be scummy, in which case I'm thoroughly confused, as I don't see how they are scummy.0/2
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Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 11
ace5993- 1 - SaintKerrigan - (L-10)
Crypto- 2 - horrordude0215, Farside22 - (L-9)
DedicatedScribe- 1 - Cirno - (L-10)
horrordude0215- 9 - pman5595, Ythan, Crypto, Lowell, Nobody Special, ace5993, MoleStargazer, RichardGHP, JBernier93 - (L-2)
Rikenslope- 1 - RayFrostWikiManager - (L-10)
WRP_Beater- 2 - Riddick, Rikenslope - (L-9)
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I'm a noob, I think I'm liable to make mistakes.pman5595 wrote:I don't remember what he actually first did, but when asked about it, he noobclaimed
I was having one of the shittiest days of my life at the time, and I didn't care whether or not the town lynched me.Appealed to emotion
Aren't I supposed to do that? Or is it better to go "You're right about all of that, but I'm not scum, just trust me"?Tried to dismiss his case
Again, am I not supposed to do that? Even if I did say that I wasn't scum and offered good evidence for it, what good would it be if I didn't list someone that I suspected?Tried to put more suspicion on someone else.The Clown is Town. The Clown also uses "they" pronouns. Don't be a dick about it?
I know it's weird given the username, but "horrorperson" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
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