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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:26 pm

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Macavitylock wrote:Gerhard, I'd like to hear your true night actions as well.
What reason would I have to tell you?
Pulindar wrote:Not at all true. How do you figure all responses must be null reads?
Looking at the way people react to me claiming scum is inevitably WIFOM.
Pulindar wrote:So by quiting now you may draw suspicions away, while at the same time you may die peacably, and since you thought you were going to die anyway it's all good. I have a question though. Could it also be that you're trying to draw more suspicion on the two people who were already suspect and trying to keep people like GC from suspecting others, like Slaxx and myself?
I never said I thought I would die anyway. I probably could have gotten on for some time before I was in any serious danger of being lynched for lurking. You are making my first point for me. You just described a WIFOM situation.
Pulindar wrote:Yet you haven't done that, why not?
I've yet to make a decision. Why would you expect me to answer this question? You seem to be forgetting that I am in a position of no longer needing to prove anything to any of you.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:40 pm

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Gerhard Krause wrote:
Macavitylock wrote:Gerhard, I'd like to hear your true night actions as well.
What reason would I have to tell you?
That's an answer in and of itself.
Green Crayons wrote:Therefore, if your claim is true, then 1 heavily indicates that either ML or Nacho is your partner (those two having the most critical attention on them at the moment) or, to a lesser extent, peanut or myself (the other two players with critical attention focused on them, just to as great of an extent). There was no real threat of a GK-lynch, so forcing the town's hand into lynching GK suggests that your partner was on the verge of being outed.
I find this to be likely, with Gerhard jumping in front of the bullet for Nacho being the most likely. This suggests a scum PR. Considering switching my vote to Gerhard, but given the previous, will keep my vote on Nacho for now. I would happily join a deadline wagon on Gerhard.

I am discounting the possibility of Gerhard as scum supersaint, scum vengeful, or jester, as all of these roles would be more appropriate in a Bastard mod game.
Yes, my fake claim is Innocent Aligned with the Town win condition as per the mod's first post.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:50 pm

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I've seen Vengeful Scum in a mini
normal
, and I've seen jesters in Mini Themes.

And why would you stay on the me-wagon, rather than get on the Gerhard wagon? We could take care of one self-professed scum first, THEN deal with the problems you have with me when we're in a decidedly better position...
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:51 pm

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decidedly should be definitely >.>
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:08 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:I've seen Vengeful Scum in a mini
normal
, and I've seen jesters in Mini Themes.
Link on the game with vengeful scum?
Nachomamma8 wrote:And why would you stay on the me-wagon, rather than get on the Gerhard wagon? We could take care of one self-professed scum first, THEN deal with the problems you have with me when we're in a decidedly better position...
The fact that you're asking this of me, when you haven't voted Gerhard, nor made any indication that you will, only reinforces my thought that Gerhard is protecting you.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:13 pm

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Erm, it was a theme and not a normal, but you get the idea :P

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=23
MaccavityLock wrote: when you haven't voted Gerhard
Well, that's because I'm up to the block as one of the people to hammer him, silly.
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:27 pm

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You provided a link to the Mini Theme forum, not the specific game. Game link please.
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MaccavityLock wrote: when you haven't voted Gerhard
Well, that's because I'm up to the block as one of the people to hammer him, silly.
I assume I am too then. Why are you calling me out for not being on the wagon when you and I are basically in the exact same position regarding Gerhard?
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:32 pm

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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12533 >.<
MaccavityLock wrote: I assume I am too then. Why are you calling me out for not being on the wagon when you and I are basically in the exact same position regarding Gerhard?
Well, Gerhard doesn't have a voice because he's scum, and peanut doesn't have a voice because he's SK. Slaxx hasn't showed up in forever,
prod request for Slaxx before I forget
, GC doesn't care as long as it's you or me, I want Slaxx to hammer, and Pulindar wants me to hammer; I'm assuming you do too. Thus, I'm the person fated to hammer... right?
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:52 pm

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<vomit> I hate that as a role. But I guess it is possible.
Nachomamma8, my bolding wrote:GC doesn't care as long as it's you or me,
I want Slaxx to hammer
, and Pulindar wants me to hammer; I'm assuming you do too. Thus, I'm the person fated to hammer... right?
That's news to me. I figured you'd be for me to hammer. Did I miss this, or is this the first time you've said it? Why choose to have Slaxx hammer when you're still voting me?
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:54 pm

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I've had enough of GK's game.

Vote : Gerhard Krause


He's clearly not town-aligned to be playing in this fashion and, to use his own words, to suggest he might have a special PR or whatever is WIFOM, as he would like us to debate. We can tackle the last scum tomorrow.
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:04 pm

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MacavityLock wrote: Did I miss this, or is this the first time you've said it?
Don't worry; it's definitely the first time I've said it. Whenever I don't have the slightest idea who's scum, I pick someone psuedo-randomly and just start attacking... Reaction hunting is an effective technique, and it usually helps if your attacks seem serious. I was looking mainly at your, GC's, GK's, and Slaxx's reactions because I'm already convinced that Pulindar's town and that peanut's the SK... Not a really big fan of the fact that Slaxx refused to comment on anything's that's happened so far, and I looked back at a few 5cvm - Ectomancer connections, and I still think that his lurker-attacks in the beginning of the game are scummy. I'm pretty sure that you're town because you attacked me for my shitty attacks as opposed to attacking Green Crayons, and plus I've liked your responses to both myself and GC. GC is my scum choice if GK/Slaxx isn't scum, but I don't see that happening...
MacavityLock wrote: Why choose to have Slaxx hammer when you're still voting me?
My vote's really nowhere in particular right now. There aren't enough active, stupid people to hammer you right now, so no worries there. Like I said, I'm waiting for people to pile votes on Gerhard so I can hammer.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:17 pm

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Votecount2 - Gerhard Krause: (Pulindar, peanutman)
1 - Nachomamma8: (MacavityLock)
1 - MacavityLock: (Nachomamma8)
1 - Pulindar: (Slaxx)

Not Voting: Gerhard Krause, GreenCrayons


With
7
alive it will take
4
to lynch.

Deadline: 10pm, 27th February AEST
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:37 pm

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[quote="Nachomamma8"] I want Slaxx to hammer, and Pulindar wants me to hammer; [quote]

I could deal with a slaxx hammer, though I would rather you Nacho, that's definitely true. I could also deal with a peanut hammer due to his having a good chance of being SK.

I see the logic in your suspicion against Slaxx, and I think I pointed a few things out about him before as well. (though I can't remember if I just thought them or posted.) I'll have to double check.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:39 pm

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My my my, this is taking too long. If you will all agree to vote, and lynch me in your immediate next posts, I will reveal my scum partner. No other deal will be acceptable, and my flip will ensure my honesty. If you choose not to act on my information, that is up to you, but you will have it for consideration none the less.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:45 pm

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I chose to lynch you already,

and I'll

Vote Gerhard
Again
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:56 pm

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vote: Gerhard
. Currently on my hour break between my Tuesday workday and Wednesday work day (yes it is 5am, why do you ask?) - so I won't be reading this thread again until Friday. Deadline on Saturday so any last minute changes I will catch but I'm happy with a Gerhard lynch.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:06 am

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Whoever hammers, wait for me to post before you do. I am scum, so I will inevitably try and mislead you, but my information cannot hurt the town. If you use it right it will help you.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:14 am

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Gerhard
A) If it was so important, I don't see why you wouldn't say it now. You are at L-1.
B) As scum, why would you give us any information that could help you. That would go against your own win condition.

Therefore, someone please hammer and get rid of Gerhard and whatever he's trying to do.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:15 am

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Gerhard wrote:...I will reveal my scum partner...
rules wrote:Have fun and play to win.
Claiming a player to be a scumpartner is a violation of this rule.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:33 am

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Vote: Gerhard


Don't worry Budja; he won't break the rules because he's dead! :D
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:39 am

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Votecount4 - Gerhard Krause: (Pulindar, peanutman, GreenCrayons, Nachomamma8)
1 - Nachomamma8: (MacavityLock)
1 - Pulindar: (Slaxx)

Not Voting: Gerhard Krause


With
7
alive it will take
4
to lynch.

Deadline: 10pm, 27th February AEST


...and thats a lynch
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:41 am

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Gerhard Krause, Peter Syme,
Cop
, lynched day 3.

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Night Deadline: 28th Feb 10pm AEST. (~3 days)
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:00 am

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Today the body of GreenCrayons greets you as you arrive, lying on the floor with his throat torn out. Better keep hunting!


Green Crayons,
Employee
, killed Night 3.

Day 4 begins.

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Not Voting: Pulindar, Nachomamma8, peanutman, MacavityLock, Slaxx


With
5
alive it will take
3
to lynch.
Deadline: 10th March AEST (extendable as always.)
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:49 pm

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Unlocked :P.
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:39 pm

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Vote: Slaxx
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