Mini 927: Alabama Correctional Facility - OVER

[Grimmy]

Shove:
1. UncertainKitten 6
2. Minineko 2
3. Ellibereth 10
4. Jahudo 7
5. SpyreX 5
6. Max 9
7. farside22 8
8. HackerHuck 1
9. Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 3
10. Cobalt 11
12. Grimmy 4

i am interested in learning why you rank 6 people as more town than yourself, and why you think elli is scum with me

but not spyrex

yet....

8=====D
Shove:
UncertainKitten 3
Minineko 9
Ellibereth 4
Jahudo 6

SpyreX 2

Max 5
farside22 7
HackerHuck 11
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 10
Cobalt 1
Grimmy 8
lurkerhuck needs lynched

you question Jahudo's town feel of spyrex, but you have him even higher on YOUR list.

Dude, seriously. I make very little sense when I post, and yet your stuff is confusing the hell out of me.

Please explain why you think these people are scummy...
(pulling the last four from your list, ill even list them FOR you)

11. HackerHuck (the one reason you stated was lurking, but Id like to hear more reasons than that)
10. S.A.M.P.
9. MiniNeko
8. Grimmy (who I happen to think is one hell of a good guy)

Grimmy
would really REALLY like to hear this explanation.

[Cobalt]

you question Jahudo's town feel of spyrex, but you have him even higher on YOUR list.

It seems your confusion stems from a failure to read my post. I did NOT question Jah's town read of Spyrex. I questioned that he has Ellibereth at 10 because of association with me, but does not rank Spyre scummy despite having a similar or even stronger defense of me.

11. HackerHuck (the one reason you stated was lurking, but Id like to hear more reasons than that)

He's kinda lurky.
Also, in his last shove order on the 19th, he rates SAMP at 3, me at 11, spyre at 10. Then two days later he says he finds me OK and SAMP scummy. Without reshoving. Looks to me like he wants to weigh down people without needing to answer for suspecting them. Also reacted poorly to my fake daykill.

10. S.A.M.P.

Terrible attack on me for not answering two garbage "questions" not even related to the game (asking why I lol'd, and asking why haters shouldn't hate). Also gives my other suspects low shove numbers.

9. MiniNeko

rates me high at 11, but then rates spyre and elli low and SAMP high. That's not at all what I would draw from guessing who is what alignment based on in-thread actions- I don't see a reason to rate SAMP right after me if you think I'm scum. Also lurks like a champ.
You'll notice that my three scums here like to rate each other low, ensuring they stay out of the lynch position.
Those are my strongest scum reads.
Also look at this Max post:

The players are manipulating the votes to ensure that Cobalt is lynched.

Their rankings are the exact reverse of the overall shove rankings asides from Cobalt who they've placed at the bottom.

Scum have overextended themselves on a me lynch. I just pulled some of them out of the pack. Don't look at who's 11'ing me- look at where people place each other.

[farside22]

Thank you colbalt for being more clear.
Now does this in your mind clear spryex as scum? Why would he not question your reasoning as others did?

UncertainKitten 6
Minineko 9
Ellibereth 4
Jahudo 5
SpyreX 10
Max 3
farside22 1
HackerHuck 11
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 7
Cobalt 2
Grimmy 8

This new shove represents that I don't see why Spyrex didn't question Colbalt and reminds me of HH and how he reacted with pwnman.

Grimmy a view of what you think of others in the game and why is no required to move you up for me.
I feel like your parroting others now.

[Cobalt]

Now does this in your mind clear spryex as scum? Why would he not question your reasoning as others did?

spyrex has played with and modded over me before, so I expect he knows my meta. I don't know if he has a town read on me or is scum playing up to town, but putting interactions with me aside I don't think his shoves look too scummy right now.
A thing I hate about this setup is that it's not obvious from each votecount who is voting who. It's kind of easy for people to slip each other the knife without it being apparent.

[Minineko]

minineko missed me out last post and has me low down. Which is interesting. And promised a look at votes without doing so.
Why did you place Eli first when you had farside as defo town and eli as probs town?

farside's last post that I quoted made me a little less certain. The general order is based on my guesses, the specifics were mostly arbitrary.

By "votes" I meant reactions from people before the modkill.

don't worry, I'm voting for scum.

Technically impossible

Fixin the last shove:

Shove: 1. UncertainKitten 5
2. Minineko 1
3. Ellibereth 2
4. Jahudo 9
5. SpyreX 4
6. Max 8
7. farside22 3
8. HackerHuck 7
9. Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 10
10. Cobalt 11
11. Grimmy 6

Meow.

[farside22]

minineko why do you think Cobalt is scum?

[Jahudo]

All Minineko has said about Cobalt was "oooh, this one doesn't look great" in response to Cobalt's shove count that, among other things, puts Mini at 10. Without explanation it looks like OMGUS. So how is it not, Mini?

I gotta look at Cobalt again because Mini also looks pretty bad overall. His "reads" in post 219 contain alot of "not sures", so fence-leaning, and "probably town", so not scumhunting, and a few where he disagrees but doesn't say that equals scummy. Forget Cobalt being the biggest active lurker after his latest post, that title is now bestowed upon Minineko.

Mini, how about scumtells that not about the modkill reactions?

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

The back-to-back exact same lynch lists creep me out.

It creeped me out too for a second when I hit preview and saw he had posted the same shove list I was in the middle of posting.

10. S.A.M.P.

Terrible attack on me for not answering two garbage "questions" not even related to the game (asking why I lol'd, and asking why haters shouldn't hate). Also gives my other suspects low shove numbers.

Nice context butchery, they were very much related to the game and you know it. I asked you why you lol'd

at Jahudo accusing you of not posting content

and why haters shouldn't hate

you for your less than impressive play

.

[Ellibereth]

Shove:
UncertainKitten 4
Minineko 7
Ellibereth 1
Jahudo 10
SpyreX 6
Max 2
farside22 5
HackerHuck 11
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 9
Cobalt 3
Grimmy 8

[HackerHuck]

11. HackerHuck (the one reason you stated was lurking, but Id like to hear more reasons than that)

He's kinda lurky.
Also, in his last shove order on the 19th, he rates SAMP at 3, me at 11, spyre at 10. Then two days later he says he finds me OK and SAMP scummy. Without reshoving. Looks to me like he wants to weigh down people without needing to answer for suspecting them. Also reacted poorly to my fake daykill.

Well, I actually had voted you at 12 for your fake daykill. I did change my mind, but should have reshoved. If you recall from reading my posts, my post order was (except for you and me) in reverse order of the rankings at that time. I've actually softened on SAMP as well. I'd prefer to knock off either Ellibereth or SpyreX.

Shove:
1. UncertainKitten - 9
2. Minineko - 5
3. Ellibereth - 11
4. Jahudo - 8
5. SpyreX - 10
6. Max - 2
7. farside22 - 6
8. HackerHuck - 1
9. Super Awesome Mega Pimp! - 4
10. Cobalt - 3
11. Grimmy - 7

[SpyreX]

With the way this is going down and especially the changes in these shoves I will eat all the hats if Cobalt is scum. Its not meta (meta is blah). Its a function of this game and still not getting the great scum machinations.

Yes. I'm holding to it. And Cobalt has raised a REALLY GOOD question about those two shove posts being exactly the same and ranking yourself that low. And then not questioning me who has actively been saying "Cobalt is town you chuckleheads"

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

I'm voting inversely to the rankings, except for Cobalt who stays in back. This maximizes the chance of a Cobalt lynch. Jahudo decided to do so as well. Thus we have the same list where neither of us is at 1.

I don't even know where to begin questioning you people who think he's town. Maybe "Why do you insist on keeping your rhetoric to argument ratio close to one?" v:|v

[Jahudo]

Yeah, its basically an inversion. Except now I got both eyes and my poking stick on Minineko.

Shove:
1. UncertainKitten 6
2. Minineko 11
3. Ellibereth 10
4. Jahudo 7
5. SpyreX 5
6. Max 9
7. farside22 8
8. HackerHuck 1
9. Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 3
10. Cobalt 2
12. Grimmy 4

[Minineko]

minineko why do you think Cobalt is scum?

That shove in reaction to pwnman reeked of bandwagonvote. He just shoved with no content at at all.

[Ellibereth]

What is all this inversion stuff? Can't people just post the lists from highest town read to highest scum read?

[Jahudo]

minineko why do you think Cobalt is scum?

That shove in reaction to pwnman reeked of bandwagonvote. He just shoved with no content at at all.

I agree it was no content, but a bandwagon vote? Not in my eyes. How do you figure that given people were against pwnman lynch at the time, making his the first shove count since claim?

[UncertainKitten]

/me sighs

DGB, you will hate me for this but

I need to replace out of this game

I can't in good conscience keep playing a game that I'm basically not at all into. All I'd do is be a burden on my team. I apologize for this and for having to make you go to the trouble for finding a replacement, DGB. I'll help find one if that'll lower the sting a bit...

[HackerHuck]

What is all this inversion stuff? Can't people just post the lists from highest town read to highest scum read?

We're not going to make it easier for your partners to figure out who to nightkill.

[SpyreX]

What's this we? You have a mouse in your pocket?

Actually, was this talk of inverting anywhere? Or did both of you just happen to do it around the same time?

[HackerHuck]

What's this we? You have a mouse in your pocket?

Actually, was this talk of inverting anywhere? Or did both of you just happen to do it around the same time?

So you think it's a good idea that we all claim who we think are the towniest?

[DrippingGoofball]

YOUR DEADLINE: March 1, 6:02 EST

-

A replacement is being sought for UKitten.

YOUR CURRENT RANKING IN LINE #7

5.1 SpyreX
5.3 Max
5.5 Ellibereth
5.5 farside22
5.6 UncertainKitten
6.0 Jahudo
6.2 Cobalt
6.2 Grimmy
6.5 Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
7.1 HackerHuck
7.5 Minineko

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

What's this we? You have a mouse in your pocket?

Actually, was this talk of inverting anywhere? Or did both of you just happen to do it around the same time?

I brought it up in 177 when I first started doing it. Jahudo didn't mention it before 261 I don't believe.

It's not a complete coincidence we posted at the same time though, cool as that would be. Inverting of course requires an up-to-date shove count, so posting an inverted shove list right after DGB provides a shove count is most logical, and that's exactly what both of us did.

Hacker: Is your shove list in some order other than towniest-to-scummiest?

Shove:
UncertainKitten 6
Minineko 1
Ellibereth 8
Jahudo 5
SpyreX 10
Max 9
farside22 7
HackerHuck 2
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 3
Cobalt 11
Grimmy 4

[Jahudo]

Actually it was 223:

I’m going to withhold shoving until there’s a new count, but Elli and Cobalt should be at the bottom for both independent and dependent reasons. Hacker should be up, as should a more active Minineko. And I’ll invert the rest on my list.

I said I would at the next shove count, which lends to SAMP's idea of doing the same. Nothing unusual here.

[Ellibereth]

What is all this inversion stuff? Can't people just post the lists from highest town read to highest scum read?

We're not going to make it easier for your partners to figure out who to nightkill.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Die scum.

[SpyreX]

Thanks for clearin that up. Carry on.

Elli's got the right idea.