Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[RichardGHP]

vote: ace5993

Studies show he has a 48% chance of being scum!

[RichardGHP]

EBWOP: Neto, if it's within the rules, you could have pman or myself PM ace on ScoreHero to let him know the game has started. He's probably more likely to be on there.

unvote vote Nobody Special

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This guy is obvscum for trying to blend in.

[RichardGHP]

EBWOP: farside, there is no study. It's no different from any other RVS vote.

[RichardGHP]

Oh my God I love this game already.

[RichardGHP]

Alrighty. Semi-random question incoming.

@Everyone: If you are a cop with a guilty on Day 1, do you out yourself and risk getting NK'd or do you wait until you have minimum risk of being killed?

[RichardGHP]

EBWOP:

unvote

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[RichardGHP]

Alrighty. Semi-random question incoming.

@Everyone: If you are a cop with a guilty on Day 1, do you out yourself and risk getting NK'd or do you wait until you have minimum risk of being killed?

I don't like PR questions. I don't see how they serve a purpse to get reads on players.

It will help me determine who is more concerned with keeping themselves alive than with the greater good of the town.

my question to everyone:
What is your view on policy lynching?

The only circumstance in which I would consider policy lynching would be a troll or someone who plays EXTREMELY anti-town.

Do you think scum or town lurk more?

I firmly believe lurking to be a nulltell, since scum lurk to avoid suspicion, PRs lurk not to gather attention (causing them to be targetted for the NK) and VTs lurk because they don't have time or can't be bothered. With no real way to differentiate between the three, I can't give a definitive answer.

How active are you here at MS?

Well, I have three ongoing games (this one included, disregard my sig >.>) and have replaced out of two others since I joined a couple months back.

[RichardGHP]

Richard, why the question about cops and the post with the smiley?

The question about the cops I've already explained, and the post with the smiley was referring to how RVS was conducted. My favourite RVS EVER.

[RichardGHP]

It will help me determine who is more concerned with keeping themselves alive than with the greater good of the town.

I call BS.

Explain?

[RichardGHP]

unvote:
vote: richard

Explain this vote. Now.

[RichardGHP]

unvote:
vote: richard

Explain this vote. Now.

I your see explanation as scum looking for breadcrumbs from other players and knowing what players to expect those breadcrumbs from.

Just because

you

see it that way is no reason to vote me and use it as your only reason...

In all my time playing mafia, I've never seen anyone get something so wrong.

[RichardGHP]

EBWOP:

@Whoever said I was on thin ice: Way to post inane fluff. Though, it doesn't really bother me at all.

[RichardGHP]

EBWOP:
@Whoever said I was on thin ice: Way to post inane fluff. Though, it doesn't really bother me at all.

Players 4, 10, and 16 are on thin ice.

Attacking a case on you that wasn't even ever made and then saying it doesn't even bother you. I believe that you are scum.

vote RichardGHP

If I was scum, I would most definitely be concerned with the non-existent case. If you believe I'm scum, then good for you, but you're wrong.

[RichardGHP]

If I was scum, I would most definitely be concerned with the non-existent case. If you believe I'm scum, then good for you, but you're wrong.

You obviously did care enough to go after a case on you that didn't even exist. Saying you didn't care when you were done just to cover up was a mistake, it didn't make any sense.

Point out where I go after the case, because I'm not seeing it tbqh.

I said "Way to post inane fluff." I hardly call that being concerned and going after the case.

[RichardGHP]

Everybody should vote me now.

[RichardGHP]

If you're town you're not good town. Lynch plz. Claim first if you want.

Why would I claim with only four votes?

Anyways, GOGO RICHARD LYNCH NAO PL0X!!1!!1

[RichardGHP]

Because you're going to die.

Oh my God what a huge tunnel.

unvote vote Ythan.

[RichardGHP]

Is anyone surprised? How is that even a tunnel. To the rest of the scum out there give us a challenge plz.

Saying "You're going to die" is not a tunnel? What the hell is the world coming to?

[RichardGHP]

It's definitively not what the word means. Get your facts straight for your next game.

Then give me your definition.

[RichardGHP]

Whatever.

I will claim on request.

[RichardGHP]

EBWOP: I'm not self-voting.

[RichardGHP]

Uh... am I the only one who sees voting me based on me asking a question I thought was legitimate as profoundly fucking stupid? There is most definitely scum on my wagon.

[RichardGHP]

I agree that the cause was stupid, but your subsequent behavior is unnerving.

So... will somebody please make me an up-to-date case on WHY they are voting me?

[RichardGHP]

I shouldn't need a defense, I haven't done anything wrong.

I had previously misdefined the term "Tunnel Vision", and that is not scum-like.

[RichardGHP]

Yes it is.

Explain to me on what fucking planet is misdefining a word a scumtell.

[RichardGHP]

If only you all knew how much my head is hurting right now after a huge collision with my palm.

Claim time.

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Watcher

Everybody unvote now. kthxbai.

[RichardGHP]

EBWOP:

"Everybody voting me unvote now".

[RichardGHP]

Richard- Your questioning and subsequent meaningless defenses really make you seem like the inside of a dirty shower at a YMCA type of Scummy. I think so far my vote is with you.

Vote Richard

"Hey guys, I'm scum trying to push for a mislynch of a town PR!"

unvote vote Rikenslope

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If any CCs my claim they are getting lynched today.

[RichardGHP]

I think Richard has a fairly high chance of lying about the claim, whether he's just a townsperson lying about his role, or scum. It's probably best to give him enough pressure to keep him talking to be more sure of this, but for the most part, seek out other lynches. I'm not really used to how large games work, so.

Or maybe I'm town telling the truth about my role.

If I was Vanilla Townie/any other town role, why the hell would I fakeclaim a power role? And if I'm scum, wouldn't I want to go for something more obvious like cop or doctor? Without going too far into WIFOM, that argument is just ridiculous. There's no other way to put it, you can't make euphemisms for it, the argument just makes no sense IMO.

Also, sorry, but I don't do pressure votes, nor do I respond to them. If I haven't said much up until now a few votes, maybe even a large wagon, isn't going to make me contribute any more than I am at the moment.

[RichardGHP]

Flimsiest of excuses obtained!

unvote vote RichardGHP

^ FAIL

[RichardGHP]

Why are you trying to lynch a Town PR?

[RichardGHP]

It's my understanding that it's not a particularly common normal role.

There's more than likely a tracker, and wouldn't you say that's normal, role-wise? Watcher is basically a tracker in reverse, so I would say that it's a normal role.

Besides, the setup has been deemed normal by the co-mods/main mod, so by this logic my role is normal. Add to that, I'm UnCC'd, if that counts for anything.

[RichardGHP]

"Why are you trying to lynch a Town PR?"

What kind of defence is this?

Well if you can think of a better one, please share it with me.

[RichardGHP]

"Why are you trying to lynch a Town PR?"
What kind of defence is this?

Well if you can think of a better one, please share it with me.

It's your job to defend yourself. Don't ask us to exhaust every possibility before lynching you.

I haven't done anything wrong. AFAIK, there hasn't even been an ISO read done yet, and the quickwagon on me forced me to out myself on Day 1. Great work town. If I'm lynched/NK'd and flip town, look at those who were adament about their vote, even after the claim. Lynch

them

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[RichardGHP]

Vote: WR_Beater

[RichardGHP]

EBWOP:

unvote; vote: WRP_Beater

[RichardGHP]

I haven't done anything wrong. AFAIK, there hasn't even been an ISO read done yet, and the quickwagon on me forced me to out myself on Day 1. Great work town. If I'm lynched/NK'd and flip town, look at those who were adament about their vote, even after the claim. Lynch them.

This doesn't fly, to me. "I haven't done anything wrong"? You were put under pressure (not that much, from how I see it, it was basically the basis of a question-) then roleclaimed to try and save yourself. That's what you did wrong, because you look even worse now.

I asked a perfectly legit question, explained why, and claimed a power role. I'm struggling to find this elusive wrongfulness.

Vote: WR_Beater

Why the random jump onto bandwagon? Trying to fit in?

I'm just up for whatever the town decides, I never really feel like scumhunting on Day 1.

I mean, seriously- who in their right townie mind claims Day 1?

Hell, I don't know, maybe a power role with a wagon on them?

[RichardGHP]

Richard stated;

I asked a perfectly legit question, explained why, and claimed a power role. I'm struggling to find this elusive wrongfulness.

Oh yes asking people what they would do with as a cop with a guilty seems so pro-town.

I would like to hear why everyone seems to think the same way you do; isn't weeding out those more concerned with saving their own asses than helping the town GOOD for said town?

I'm just up for whatever the town decides, I never really feel like scumhunting on Day 1.

IE: I'm going to lurk and not make any cases so I don't look scummy? Seriously this is lazy/scum material that makes me want to vote you again.

Wrong.

If I tried to scumhunt on Day 1, I would not do a very good job of it, so I think it's best if I start doing it once I am forced to due to lack of players remaining. Scumhunting on Day 1 is lost on me, I literally can't do it, unless anyone CC's a PR I correctly claim.

[RichardGHP]

I would like to hear why everyone seems to think the same way you do; isn't weeding out those more concerned with saving their own asses than helping the town GOOD for said town?

Claiming at L-5 is saying your own ass.

Since I'm a Power Role, claiming so I'm not lynched is actually both saving my own ass AND in the best interest of the town... and you have avoided the question.

FoS farside22

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If I tried to scumhunt on Day 1, I would not do a very good job of it, so I think it's best if I start doing it once I am forced to due to lack of players remaining. Scumhunting on Day 1 is lost on me, I literally can't do it, unless anyone CC's a PR I correctly claim.

So lets trying this why the vote on WRP?

Is it he has the biggest bw?

What makes you think it's town motivated bw?

Yes. TBH, for some reason, I completely missed that smiley thing, and upon review I just can't see town doing that.

Unvote; vote: horrordude0215

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[RichardGHP]

Unvote

Want to hammer horror.

[RichardGHP]

Unvote; Vote: HorrorDude.

See y'all tomorrow.

[RichardGHP]

Official flip with flavour to come soon I presume?

[RichardGHP]

RichardGHP,

Town Watcher

Bah.

Town has this in the bag.