Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[Ythan]

Riddick, are you new to the site? You're obviously not new to the game. Also I'm assuming your daykill was a joke?

Mole, I'm not using the claim a reason to vote him. I have a host of reasons to vote him. I'm not allowing the dubious claim to get in my way.

Also rethinking my dismissal of SK as wishy washy.

[Ythan]

That is, dismissal of the case that SK is wishy washy.

[Riddick]

Riddick, are you new to the site? You're obviously not new to the game. Also I'm assuming your daykill was a joke?

Nah I've played enough games on here before. And it wasn't real, if that's what you mean.

[SaintKerrigan]

WRP_Beater is a safer lynch than Richard anyway. If we lynch Richard and he's telling the truth about his alignment, we've lynched a town power-role on Day 1. If we lynch WRP_Beater and he's telling the truth (which I doubt at the moment), then we just lose a Vanilla Townie. I think we should save Richard for another day, let him get results if he's telling the truth.

I also haven't forgotten about Rikenslope, but seeing as he hasn't been around for awhile I want to put my vote somewhere more productive.

Ythan, what do you think about WRP_Beater?

[Ythan]

Between two scummy players, one of whom has a claimed a PR, I'd rather kill the other and let the scum use a NK on the claimer if he's real.

[SaintKerrigan]

Between two scummy players, one of whom has a claimed a PR, I'd rather kill the other and let the scum use a NK on the claimer if he's real.

So why is your vote still on Richard?

[Ythan]

I'm thinking about which scummy unclaimed player I want to move it to.

[Ythan]

Vote count please?

[Netopalis]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 11

ace5993

- 1 - RayFrostWikiManager - (L-10)

DedicatedScribe

- 1 - Cirno - (L-10)

horrordude0215

- 2 - Crypto, pman5595 - (L-9)

Musher333

- 1 - Lowell - (L-10)

RichardGHP

- 3 - MoleStargazer, Rikenslope, Ythan - (L-8)

Rikenslope

- 1 - RichardGHP - (L-10)

SaintKerrigan

- 1 - Farside22 - (L-10)

WRP_Beater

- 5 - DedicatedScribe, JBernier93, Nobody Special, Riddick, SaintKerrigan - (L-6)

Players not voting: ace5993, Dr. Cyanide, horrordude0215, Musher333, WRP_Beater

[Ythan]

The problem is that I have to weigh two possibilities. Lynch Rich or someone else. If Rich is scum as seems more than 50% likely to me, a lynch is good. We hit scum, we don't have to worry about WIFOM when he's alive tomorrow. If he's not, we kill a somewhat useful PR. If we lynch someone else and Rich is scum then there's that WIFOM when he survives, even if we do hit another scum player (which doesn't seem overtly likely to me at the moment). If he's town we keep the PR. Nobody else seems terrible guilty to me right now.

[SaintKerrigan]

If Rich is still scummy later on, we can always lynch him later. It's not as if we're clearing him of all suspicion for the entire game. But on Day 1, I'd much rather lynch someone who claimed VT than someone who claimed a power role.

[Ythan]

I'd much rather lynch someone who is scummy and claimed a moderately powerful PR than someone who isn't and claimed VT.

[Riddick]

If Rich is still scummy later on, we can always lynch him later. It's not as if we're clearing him of all suspicion for the entire game. But on Day 1, I'd much rather lynch someone who claimed VT than someone who claimed a power role.

The problem with stating this is it makes it almost impossible to lynch scum day 1.

I can see Ythan's point actually, and I don't think Richard has done a lot to redeem himself really. I'd like him to stop defending himself with stupid things (lol do u wanna lynch a pr) and do some scum-hunting.

[SaintKerrigan]

I'd much rather lynch someone who is scummy and claimed a moderately powerful PR than someone who isn't and claimed VT.

So are you saying that you don't find WRP scummy?

[RichardGHP]

"Why are you trying to lynch a Town PR?"
What kind of defence is this?

Well if you can think of a better one, please share it with me.

It's your job to defend yourself. Don't ask us to exhaust every possibility before lynching you.

I haven't done anything wrong. AFAIK, there hasn't even been an ISO read done yet, and the quickwagon on me forced me to out myself on Day 1. Great work town. If I'm lynched/NK'd and flip town, look at those who were adament about their vote, even after the claim. Lynch

them

.

[Riddick]

^ Second that question, unless he was talking about a hypothetical situation.

[SaintKerrigan]

If Rich is still scummy later on, we can always lynch him later. It's not as if we're clearing him of all suspicion for the entire game. But on Day 1, I'd much rather lynch someone who claimed VT than someone who claimed a power role.

The problem with stating this is it makes it almost impossible to lynch scum day 1.

I can see Ythan's point actually, and I don't think Richard has done a lot to redeem himself really. I'd like him to stop defending himself with stupid things (lol do u wanna lynch a pr) and do some scum-hunting.

There are exceptions, but I'm not sure yet that Richard has reached the scumminess level required for me to want to lynch him in spite of the power role. I like a WRP lynch better right now anyway.

[horrordude0215]

Noob question: What's ISO? I can't find it in the wiki

[SaintKerrigan]

Noob question: What's ISO? I can't find it in the wiki

ISO is where you look at each player's posts by themselves. You do this by going down to the bottom of the page where there's a dropbar with player's names on it. Select the player whose posts you wish to read, and hit go.

[Riddick]

Isolation.

See at the bottom of the page :Display posts by and then select a user and you can see them in iso.

[horrordude0215]

Thanks guys... I've been doing a little rereading from my last post on page 17... I'm gonna see if I can come up with a new vote/argument soon

[horrordude0215]

Something tells me that Riddick's daykill was a test on WRP. and needless to say, he failed miserably.

Vote: WRP_Beater

[RichardGHP]

Vote: WR_Beater

[RichardGHP]

EBWOP:

unvote; vote: WRP_Beater

[Netopalis]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 11

ace5993

- 1 - RayFrostWikiManager - (L-10)

DedicatedScribe

- 1 - Cirno - (L-10)

horrordude0215

- 2 - Crypto, pman5595 - (L-9)

Musher333

- 1 - Lowell - (L-10)

RichardGHP

- 3 - MoleStargazer, Rikenslope, Ythan - (L-8)

SaintKerrigan

- 1 - Farside22 - (L-10)

WRP_Beater

- 7 - DedicatedScribe, JBernier93, Nobody Special, Riddick, SaintKerrigan, horrordude0215, RichardGHP - (L-4)

Players not voting: ace5993, Dr. Cyanide, Musher333, WRP_Beater