Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[RichardGHP]

It will help me determine who is more concerned with keeping themselves alive than with the greater good of the town.

I call BS.

Explain?

[Ythan]

It will help me determine who is more concerned with keeping themselves alive than with the greater good of the town.

I call BS.

Explain?

RQS questions passed off as being meant to test the answerers are in my experience and general estimation shifty. It's a simple way to explain away suspicion over suspicious questions. Playing town. And if you're telling the truth it's not a good plan anyway.

[crypto]

Ythan, you're suspicious of horror. Wagon on him with me.

[Ythan]

Don't feel like hopping on that wagon just yet, I'd likely end up switching to another in short order.

[Dr.Cyanide]

Wow, did not expect seven pages when I clicked on that link. Read through soon.

[farside22]

RichardGHP wrote:
Alrighty. Semi-random question incoming.

@Everyone: If you are a cop with a guilty on Day 1, do you out yourself and risk getting NK'd or do you wait until you have minimum risk of being killed?

I don't like PR questions. I don't see how they serve a purpse to get reads on players.

richard said:
It will help me determine who is more concerned with keeping themselves alive than with the greater good of the town.

unvote:
vote: richard

Note to self: I owe a link to ythan.

my view without a link on lowell if you like is that he plays anti-town. He is lurky, says stuff that looks scummy and gets many people to look and question him D1. The most recent game I played is currently in progress and I thought he was quiet at first because I thought he might be a PR but he does it in all games no matter his alignment from many a reliable source.
The one game I can link I need to search for but it was a long time ago and I don't remember if he was the same back then as he is now.

[farside22]

Link to a game with lowell:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... &&start=50

after the first 2 pages there was a bw on him. He has foot in mouth.

[RichardGHP]

unvote:
vote: richard

Explain this vote. Now.

[Dr.Cyanide]

Vote: Crypto.

Reason: General scummy state of play.

No.

[DedicatedScribe]

He doesn't post anything of value, and only replies to things, in that intelligent way you know he do without showing any sign of actually looking for scum.

Yeah this isn't terribly reasonable an argument at this point.

That's why I haven't voted for him ^^

And its not unreasonable. 5 pages isn't really that little. We got out of the RVS pretty quickly.

[jbernier93]

vote:Septl

for not having posted yet.

[Netopalis]

Ace5995 has confirmed.

[farside22]

unvote:
vote: richard

Explain this vote. Now.

I your see explanation as scum looking for breadcrumbs from other players and knowing what players to expect those breadcrumbs from.

[farside22]

Anyways.

vote Musher333

This is me voting and feeling that I won't need to unvote for the rest of the day.

My fair Musher, I'm taking that pbpa scheduled for tomorrow as a promise.

Scribe why do you say the above in regards to your vote on Musher

[ace5993]

Ace5995 has confirmed.

5993 actually, but good try :p Just an "I am here" post, but I will read-through and post stuff later today.

[Rikenslope]

Rikenslope finds himself at odds ater waking up to read 7 pages of game already. I will re-read and post something more significant in a few hours.

[Ythan]

Farside, unless some compelling evidence causes me to reconsider I can accept at least for your own reasoning your meta on Lowell.

Dr. C, can you elaborate or provide some examples on Crypto?

JB, why that specific non-poster?

[farside22]

Ythan: Do you have fun playing mafia? Do you find people who joke and make silly remarks are typically scum?

[Ythan]

I do have fun. I have no problem with jokes and silly remarks but think that they are often used to cover ulterior motives.

[Musher333]

Ok here is the player by player analysis, any players missed out of it means either they haven't talked, have only said an "I'm here message" or i have no read on.

Crypto - His answers seem quite short and non engaging in the topic, although he posts quite often he doesn't seem to put much detail in what he says which to me gives a slightly scummy feel as if he is trying not to say much incase he gives away information he doesn't want to.

Cirno - Talks in an odd way, seemingly due to playstyle. Similarily to Crypto she doesn't seem to be posting in much detail however her answers also don't seem to be helping aid the discussion along which gives a scummy vibe to me.

FoS Cirno

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Dedicated Scribe - Voted without giving a reason and said they feel they will have no reason to change their vote for the rest of the day. Without giving a reason this makes no sense to say so a reason would be nice.
Also talks about not waiting and wanting to get ahead with the day as soon as possible, rushing is never a good idea as it gives a bigger chance of a mislynch before we have gathered enough information.
Gives a slightly scummy vibe at the moment.

Ythan - Talks a fair amount and seems to ask the right questions of people, at the moment he gives a pro town vibe to me.

This hasn't included many players but it has included the players i felt i should comment on. If i have missed anyone out you want to know my feelings on ask and i'll write an analysis on them.

[Ythan]

I'm withholding my judgment on your analysis of Crypto, but the word you're looking for, contributing without actually contributing, is active lurking.

Why did you FoS Cirno but not Crypto?

[crypto]

although he posts quite often he doesn't seem to put much detail in what he says

What the hell do you want me to go into detail about? How exactly should I go into detail about a gut scum read? I hate to rain on your parade, but I'm not going to have a case compiled for you on page seven.

trying not to say much incase he gives away information he doesn't want to

How would this technique benefit scum?

[SaintKerrigan]

You're funny. I hope you're scum.

Are you?

Nope.

Confirm Vote: HorrorDude1215.

I'm getting bad vibes from him.

[Ythan]

What's giving you those vibes?

[Ythan]

Players 4, 10, and 16 are on thin ice.