Changling bob (1, Nox)
Not Voting: Someone, Changling bob, Gaspode, Fishbulb
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Exactly. That's why I'm so doubtful about the claim. The correct play probably would have been to see if one of the two in question could be lynched without a claim, and then using the info if it were needed. Claiming at the start of the day just seems like scum's way of establishing a claim before they are under pressure and heavily scrutinized.Fishbulb wrote:I keep going back to how Someone played this. Why reveal all so suddenly? Why not see where the town is going before trying to push us in a direction? I was all ready to vote for Changling bob anyway.
I disagree. As scum, I would probably hold back and wait for more information before claiming. Especially if I'm the only one left....I maintain it's a very risky move.Gaspode wrote:Exactly. That's why I'm so doubtful about the claim. The correct play probably would have been to see if one of the two in question could be lynched without a claim, and then using the info if it were needed. Claiming at the start of the day just seems like scum's way of establishing a claim before they are under pressure and heavily scrutinized.Fishbulb wrote:I keep going back to how Someone played this. Why reveal all so suddenly? Why not see where the town is going before trying to push us in a direction? I was all ready to vote for Changling bob anyway.
So, even though you think I seemed scummy for some reason (I'd be interested to hear what it is), you're willing to blindly follow Someone and just completely throw out the possibility that he's wrong? I prefer independent thinking, personally, scrutinizing both sides of every argument.Nox wrote:Well, I`ll be honest with you, before Someone`s claim, I would`ve maybe leaned towards Gaspode. However, his name was cleared.
So, even though you think I seemed scummy for some reason (I'd be interested to hear what it is), you're willing to blindly follow Someone and just completely throw out the possibility that he's wrong? I prefer independent thinking, personally, scrutinizing both sides of every argument.Nox wrote:Well, I`ll be honest with you, before Someone`s claim, I would`ve maybe leaned towards Gaspode. However, his name was cleared.
Please explain how a mass claim could give us any idea of how many scum are left. I'm trying to figure this out, maybe I'm missing something obvious, but won't they just lie? I'm in the line of thinking that all it would do is reveal any powerful town roles that are left. I think we have doc left, for instance, why give that information to scum?Nox wrote:In my opinion, only the scum would oppose to a mass claim. Itd pretty much give us an idea of how many of them they are. On another note, if we don't do this, the game would probably end up deadlined, for there'd be a lack of any action probable.
Very true.Gaspode wrote: I think we're hesitating because we're expecting the rest of the town to come up with new ideas. Unfortunately, there are only five of us left, and we've all spoken, so pretty much everything is out there already. We're not going to get much further, I think.
Hard to look in the context of the game as a whole, as most people are dead and can't comment. And how would you know that we would have more context? Do you know more than you're letting on?Someone wrote:Also, there's a chance that you guys would find my role less suspicious when you look at the game in a whole...mayhaps you would have more of a context for it. Of course, this point is secondary to point A.
The same has been true of every lynch so far in the game. Its a risk we take due to the mechanics of the game when we lynch someone (or they wake up dead).Fishbulb wrote:My main hesitation for lynching Someone, as I don't believe his claim, is that it won't give us any information. If he's scum, he'll show up non-townie. If he is actually telling the truth, he will still be non-townie. Either way, we won't really know if we're on the right track.
Okay, what if we lynch Changling bob and the game doesn't end? You say that it must be me, but I know that's not true. But to trust you now means trusting you all the way, which I'm not sure I'm ready to do yet.Someone wrote:If you lynch me today, and the game doesn't end, what do we do?