Mini #893 - Dollhouse Mafia (Game Over!)

[farside22]

Who's up for lynching one of the arthritic hamsters who power the server?

I have a rant in GD just to keep me sane from wanting to drop kick the server for MS.

[Limerickx]

I don't know that we should assume that the mod will give imprints based on anything other than randomness. I havent heard of anything to suggest that.

That's a good point, but on the other hand giving a player a doc role when there is no possibility of a NK seems unfair.

But imagine that only one person is imprinted one night (town.) He gets a doc. Wouldn't being able to assume that means that there is a pre-imprinted person with a NK ability be unfair to scumteam? I don't think we can assume anything about which imprints are given out.

Although, now that I think about it, 2 vigs and zero information roles is weird. And claiming to have gotten a vig would be a convenient claim for a scumbag since it contains no information whatsoever.

True, but there are other roles he could have claimed, especially given his comments about vigging the day before.

This goes along with my thinking that unless we have a good reason to think we know how imprints are given out, assuming anything is dangerous.

I don't know that that is necessarily the case. If a NK were to occur, I would take a closer look at anyone who as been imprinted regardless of claimed role.

In a bubble, I agree about this. There are cases where this is not true, (imagine if Farside got tracker, I got doctor. I save SC, and Farside tracks me. In that case, a night kill of someone shouldn't make me suspicious (unless both Farside AND I were mafia, of course) but last night was not one of those cases.

My vote still stays on xRECK, as I haent heard anything to diminish my thoughts on him.

Imprint Farside

Buttons play has made me feel wishywashy about him, so I'll hold my imprint vote from him for now, but Im open to thoughts.

[elvis_knits]

Who's up for lynching one of the arthritic hamsters who power the server?

Going from two arthritic hamsters to one arthritic hamster doesn't seem like an improvement. We need all the arthiritic hamsters we can get!

[xRECKONERx]

That's why we should imprint the same people - then we can narrow it down to two people who had a NK ability. If there is a NK, then we lynch Buttonmen or Lim. As for your other question, gimme till tomorrow, I'm drunk.

If Knight flips town, please remind me about this post.

Has anyone else been saying something like this?

I've been the only one saying this. Why?

[Limerickx]

That's why we should imprint the same people - then we can narrow it down to two people who had a NK ability. If there is a NK, then we lynch Buttonmen or Lim. As for your other question, gimme till tomorrow, I'm drunk.

If Knight flips town, please remind me about this post.

Has anyone else been saying something like this?

I've been the only one saying this. Why?

Sorry if I missed this, but if there is a NK, why is farsde excused?

[xRECKONERx]

Not saying she's excused, just saying she's the only one who didn't claim to have a NK ability.

[farside22]

Not saying she's excused, just saying she's the only one who didn't claim to have a NK ability.

Why do you believe my claim?

[xRECKONERx]

Who said I did?

[farside22]

Who said I did?

So you just believe I don't have a NK because I said I didnt'?

[Limerickx]

That's why we should imprint the same people - then we can narrow it down to two people who had a NK ability. If there is a NK, then we lynch Buttonmen or Lim. As for your other question, gimme till tomorrow, I'm drunk.

Sorry if I missed this, but if there is a NK, why is farsde excused?

Not saying she's excused, just saying she's the only one who didn't claim to have a NK ability.

If you weren't saying she was excused, then why did you say that a NK would mean a Button/Lim lynch, and forget to include Farside?

Sorry xReck, but brushing aside the fact that Farside is just as possible as Button and myself is scummy. This is ESPECIALLY crazytimes because you were so against Farside getting the imprint in the first place!

[farside22]

mmm I almost want to crunch numbers now.

if we mislynch today and scum was imprinted

6-3
scum shoots
5-3
............
scum tries to create another mislynch with those already imprinted
4-3
scum shoots
3-3

unvote:
vote: buttonman

FOS: reck

Just have this bad feeling in the pit and crunching numbers.

[TheButtonmen]

mmm I almost want to crunch numbers now.

if we mislynch today and scum was imprinted

6-3
scum shoots
5-3
............
scum tries to create another mislynch with those already imprinted
4-3
scum shoots
3-3

unvote:
vote: buttonman

FOS: reck

Just have this bad feeling in the pit and crunching numbers.

Congradulations you just reposted the numbers I posted when explaining why I didn't shoot as it could very possibly end with town getting F'ed over.

[TheButtonmen]

Except when I posted them You thought I was scummy.

[farside22]

mmm I almost want to crunch numbers now.

if we mislynch today and scum was imprinted

6-3
scum shoots
5-3
............
scum tries to create another mislynch with those already imprinted
4-3
scum shoots
3-3

unvote:
vote: buttonman

FOS: reck

Just have this bad feeling in the pit and crunching numbers.

Congradulations you just reposted the numbers I posted when explaining why I didn't shoot as it could very possibly end with town getting F'ed over.

And yet you still managed to total not answer my questions. Congrats!

[farside22]

Oh and my thought is with scum imprinted not with you "vigging"
Should I mention the coincidences and mafia not going hand and hand again or is that you just ignoring it all.

[xRECKONERx]

I was against it... I dunno. I just feel like as scum, if I got a killing imprint, I'd totally claim town vig... because there's no telling what other kind of craziness could occur from the other imprints. Like, I wouldn't want to claim something like tracker or cop... but now that I'm typing all this out, it does make sense because doc is just as much of a safe claim for scum as vig is.

Aight, forget what I said. We'd have THREE people to choose from. Have I done this yet, btw -

Vote: KoC

[farside22]

back when farside was more awake.

TheButtonmen wrote:
7-3 -> NK from scum + Misvig -> 5-3 -> Mislynch + NK -> 3-3 = Town loses

If Scum got a NK and I misvigged it was LyLo with 3 suspects. As such due to the 3 imprints I wasn't willing to risk taking the shot as my scum read on Elvis is about 65-75%.

With 2 imprints, if there's a NK I didn't do I knew who was scum, three removed that certainty. Without that certainty risking putting it at Lylo wasn't something I was comfortable with.

These things make no sense. IE: willing to kill with only 2 imprints not 3. Doesn't say who he thinks is scum but comments about a misvig in his analysis.

[Socrates]

I really don't want to play a game of "who's the safest lynch?" Lets just kill the damn scummy guy and we can move on from there. KOC's turbo mega lurking is miles scummier than Buttonman.

Incidentally, what is your current read of Limerickx, Farside?

Also, if I searched through your ISO looking for KOC/Vala what would I find?

[Socrates]

Also, after thinking about it, I totally agree with CTD that we should not imprint at all until after we see the flip of whoever we lynch today.

unimprint:everyone

[farside22]

I really don't want to play a game of "who's the safest lynch?" Lets just kill the damn scummy guy and we can move on from there. KOC's turbo mega lurking is miles scummier than Buttonman.

Incidentally, what is your current read of Limerickx, Farside?

Also, if I searched through your ISO looking for KOC/Vala what would I find?

I would have to reread limerick to get a full analysis. I don't read him as scum.
Right now i have this buttonman/koc/reck connection that I feel strongly about but reck's most resent post confused me..

[SerialClergyman]

Sorry I've been absent, I went skydiving for the first time this morning and have generally been a bit busy so am trying to psyche up.

I'm up for lynching KoC and imprinting noone.

vote KoC

[iamausername]

-=Vote Count #41=-

Ohio (4) - Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Alaska
Hawaii (2) - Virginia, Kansas
Iowa (1) - Florida

Not Voting (3) - Hawaii, Montana, Ohio

6 to lynch.

-=Imprint Count #41=-

Kansas (4) - Alaska, Iowa, Virginia, Florida
Florida (2) - Florida, Iowa
Alaska (1) - Virginia
Hawaii (1) - Iowa
Virginia (1) - Virginia
Georgia (0)
Colorado (0)
Iowa (0)
Montana (0)
Ohio (0)

6 to imprint.

ALASKA = SerialClergyman
COLORADO = CrashTextDummie
FLORIDA = Limerickx
GEORGIA = Socrates
HAWAII = TheButtonmen
IOWA = xRECKONERx
KANSAS = farside22
MONTANA = Pug89
OHIO = Knight of Cydonia
VIRGINIA = elvis_knits

-=CrashTextDummie and Knight of Cydonia have been prodded=-

[Limerickx]

Two points:

1) I did a reread on KoC, and I really don't see where all the scumminess is coming from. Could someone point me to a few things?

2) I think we SHOULD imprint, at least the same players as last night. If we assume that a scum player got a NK last night, if matters little if we imprint the same players again. The scum might get another ability, but since they can only use 1, reward outweighs risk in my mind. If we assume that the three players imprinted were town, then of COURSE you'd want to imprint again.

The only reason I can see to not imprint again is if you think there was a scum player imprinted, and said scum player didn't get a NK, and you think the risk of that happening is greater than the potential reward of any other info.

Imprint Buttonmen

[xRECKONERx]

THANK YOU LIM

FINALLY SOMEONE SEES MY POINT

[Knight of Cydonia]

Agree with Lim and Reck. Making the same imprints either gives us 3 more townies with powers tonight, or keeps the list of people we pick out scum from down to 3.
No imprints = no more info.
Different imprints = more cover for scum.

Y'know, Lim, I'd love to know what's so scummy about me too.
Especially since that whole "If Starbuck is scum, so is VMD" thing didn't work out.