The mod isnt going to be back for a while so now we are just going to be in twilight. I would have rather the hammer waited a tad longer so those that have not chimed in would do so before the day closed.
This, IMO.
Also, Green Canyons never came back with more info.
Gerhard Krause wrote:You haven't even posted suspects. I mean it's not like you're just not explaining your suspicions or votes, you're
doing absolutely nothing.
I mean really, what could we have expected in the end game? You are not trying, you are not posting content, you haven't contributed, you haven't defended yourself, you haven't even tried not to get lynched!!
Someone drop it like its hot.
Green Canyons, your info will be just as good tomorrow as it is now. The only reason to delay a hammer is if the info is relevant to the lynchee, and may be influenced by him. This is not the case, so I don't see how waiting will add to it. We need to move into D2 so that the people on MrSuave's wagon can move on to something new, and will be able to act on your information.
True, but there's no reason to hammer now anyway. We might as well wait
because the mod is out till Friday.
If anyone has anything else to say though, I would probably say it before we go into night. I don't think I have anything additional to add right now but I'm up for more discussion. It never hurts.
Slaxx wrote:
*Out till Sunday
Talking about Mod.
I already said I didn't have much left to contribute, nor do any of us (hence the silence) but I wouldn't call my post complaining.
Slaxx wrote:
I already said I didn't have much left to contribute, nor do any of us (hence the silence) but I wouldn't call my post complaining.
Then what were you trying to say by quoting Raider? It read to me like you would have had me wait longer to hammer. As far as I can tell we only had one(possibly empty) promise of incoming content. Theres still time to post. I don't see the problem.
"Yes, Kiku fucked me thoroughly and left me on the side of the road to be lynched." - Snow White
355: No. I thought they were complaining that they wanted me to wait on the hammer so that we could have more contribution. If they weren't going to contribute then I don't see why they would complain. And I was explaining that complaining=/= contribution. In other words: If you have something to say, say it. Don't complain that you didn't get the chance when you still, quite obviously, have the chance. Are you going to stop the lynch? Of course not. Was there any conceivable scenario where this lynch would have been stopped given Suaves lackluater contribution and vanilla claim? I think not. So speak if you have something to say, otherwise don't whine that you didn't get a chance when you had more than enough time to contribute.
"Yes, Kiku fucked me thoroughly and left me on the side of the road to be lynched." - Snow White
Slaxx wrote:
I already said I didn't have much left to contribute, nor do any of us (hence the silence) but I wouldn't call my post complaining.
Then what were you trying to say by quoting Raider? It read to me like you would have had me wait longer to hammer. As far as I can tell we only had one(possibly empty) promise of incoming content. Theres still time to post. I don't see the problem.
I was agreeing with him. With the deadline setback I didn't really see the need for a hammer. I just figured we had plenty of time to hammer, but once it was done it was a permanent thing. However you are correct in saying that the thread is dead. My opinion, though, is that the lynch is going to take place on Sunday hammer or no hammer because the mod is out so there's no reason to make a permanent decision. Otherwise I wouldn't have said anything.
On the flip side you did start conversation again.
Until the mod closes the thread, Green Crayons can still post his thoughts. I would still encourage him to do so, since you never know who will be the NK and it's nice to have more to ponder during night.
I have no problem with Kiku's hammer, but that doesn't mean I think he's town.
kikuchiyo wrote:355: No. I thought they were complaining that they wanted me to wait on the hammer so that we could have more contribution. If they weren't going to contribute then I don't see why they would complain. And I was explaining that complaining=/= contribution. In other words: If you have something to say, say it. Don't complain that you didn't get the chance when you still, quite obviously, have the chance. Are you going to stop the lynch? Of course not. Was there any conceivable scenario where this lynch would have been stopped given Suaves lackluater contribution and vanilla claim? I think not. So speak if you have something to say, otherwise don't whine that you didn't get a chance when you had more than enough time to contribute.
My intent was not so much complaining about the hammer but more we are waiting for people to post and contribute. I made it out to be a bigger deal then it really is, there is nothing wrong with the hammer as the extra time was not the result of anything we did more the mod was just going to be away.
I found the scum vibe of kiku considerably less in my reread. I also don't think her hammer was out of line and find her post 351 something that looks like reasoning I would use if I were in her shoes.
I don't care much for Gerhard. He started off incredibly rocky, slipped below the radar for a while and then came back not too terribly much better than when he left.
Still happy with a Suave lynch.
raider still strikes me as scummy. Here's why:
So, yeah. I'm happy with pursuing a raider vote tomorrow.
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
Raider-363 wrote:Why wait? If you have something to say please say it now. If you would like me to answer something there is no better time then the present.
Seems to me there are already things you could respond to. Starting with Green Crayon's 361 where he built a case on you based on earlier accusations as well as new stuff. I would like to see your answer to that. Especially with the mod gone until Sunday, we should have some time to discuss some of that right now.
Raider-363 wrote:Why wait? If you have something to say please say it now. If you would like me to answer something there is no better time then the present.
Seems to me there are already things you could respond to. Starting with Green Crayon's 361 where he built a case on you based on earlier accusations as well as new stuff. I would like to see your answer to that. Especially with the mod gone until Sunday, we should have some time to discuss some of that right now.
There wasnt any questions just his opinions. But I will respond.
1. About the RVS. This is a non-serious part of the game to break the ice. I was having fun with it and it did humor me. Still does in that people just dont let it go and it though I forgot that day one lynches are based off of the littlest things so I am amazed I wasnt lynched of that alone. I guess that is what happens when I leave for 6 months and attempt to jump without reading a game or two to remind me how sensitive people are to certain things.
2. Faith is all I need to place my vote where I want or judge someone how I want to. Its part of the game and how I choose to play it. If this is lynchable then looks like I will be getting lynched in every game I play early on. My false dichotomy? Seriously? 5cvm made a claim and if he was wrong we could have lynched him the following day. It was win win but if 5cvm was being an ass then how the hell am I suppose to know that. Once it was pointed out I let it go. Sure it may have taken a bit but thats the way it goes sometimes. Dont like it? Tuff Also it could be that I posted stuff other people were thinking and thought it would be scummy to post regardless of if they were town or not.
3. 5cvm claimed that Nacho was scum, I wanted something to back that up so I was asking. I didnt think it was role fishing and still dont as my intent was just to find out how he got the information he did so we can figure out how trustworthy it is. Its not different for some player saying so and so is scum. Someone else asking why and the first person then claims cop or something. Nothing more I can say about this.
4. The persona I am using doesnt fit the player? Its almost like you know my meta from 6 months ago. Though if you did it properly you would also know that I have different playstyles depending on the type of game and the mood I am in when the game starts. I have fun with metas and it people that rely on metas to find scum get screwed and end up screwing the rest of the townies. This is by no means my first game and I do know what I am doing. I find this to be fun and how I want to play the game. If it gets my lynched then so be it. I tend to suck in endgame anyways.
1. About the RVS. This is a non-serious part of the game to break the ice. I was having fun with it and it did humor me. Still does in that people just dont let it go and it though I forgot that day one lynches are based off of the littlest things so I am amazed I wasnt lynched of that alone. I guess that is what happens when I leave for 6 months and attempt to jump without reading a game or two to remind me how sensitive people are to certain things.
Green Crayon's pointed this out specifically. The fact that you reject the whole argument because people are sensitive is not addressing it at all. I'll repeat what he said.
· To bookend this point, raider's post 304 takes a pot-shot at the legitimate criticism of his continued RVS, claiming that the criticism aimed at him on this point was because people didn't like him having fun and that they're just touchy about the RVS.
Nothing finer than a defense that attacks the person and makes up the reason behind their criticism.
This is by no means my first game and I do know what I am doing. I find this to be fun and how I want to play the game.
So, are you consciously playing a confused and easily misguided townie? If not, could you tell us what you are doing?
Nachomamma8 wrote:@Raider:
When you posted your ISO 15, had you read all of the game?
When I posted it I was still only skimming posts, just for the record I am no longer skimming posts. That was only because I did not have time for anything else.
peanutman wrote:So, are you consciously playing a confused and easily misguided townie? If not, could you tell us what you are doing?
Misguided no. I got annoyed at the argument that was going on and was sick of reading about it. While the conversation was happening there was no information coming out of it. It just seemed like a couple of people whining about nothing to me. I just decided to say it to change the conversation to something better. Which it did even if it is at my expense, but I am ok with that. Though scum would never intentionally draw attention to themselves like I did but this is WIFOM so it really doesnt mean anything.
As the hunt went on, Mr Suave sat at his desk, twiddling his thumbs and playing with his pens. "Look at that guy" came a shout, "He doesn't seem to care, he must be one of them!".
Later, when they saw his ID badge, everyone was very sorry.
MySuave,
Employee
, lynched day 1.
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Night Deadline: 20th Jan 10pm AEST. (~3 days)
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LIsten up MacavityLock, I want a catch up post of the game so far from you because you have replaced a pretty hardcore lurker and I would like to see some analysis please.
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"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
