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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:15 am

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I got a gun, which I holstered.
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:26 am

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TheButtonmen wrote:I got a gun, which I holstered.
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I better hear a really good explination on this.
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SerialClergyman wrote:Oh Buttonman.. your threat didn't stop me from hamering DN, it didn't stop me from pushing Starbuck, what makes you think that your threat of leaving your vote on me (where it has resided almost all game) would make me explain that?

It'll come in due time.
No, see your going to claim it's some secret magical bullshit code in the future that some how when interpreted says whatever you want it to say and somehow clears you and Elvis, you pulled the shit logic / plans before.

I hope so very very much I get Vig powers tonight.
I also don't believe in coincidences
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:30 am

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If we had imprinted two I would have shot Elvis, with three imprints vigging was too much of a risk.
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:50 am

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TheButtonmen wrote:If we had imprinted two I would have shot Elvis, with three imprints vigging was too much of a risk.
Why would you have vigged with 2 imprints, but not vigged with 3 imprints?
Talk nerdy to me.

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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:19 pm

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7-3 -> NK from scum + Misvig -> 5-3 -> Mislynch + NK -> 3-3 = Town loses

If Scum got a NK and I misvigged it was LyLo with 3 suspects. As such due to the 3 imprints I wasn't willing to risk taking the shot as my scum read on Elvis is about 65-75%.

With 2 imprints, if there's a NK I didn't do I knew who was scum, three removed that certainty. Without that certainty risking putting it at Lylo wasn't something I was comfortable with.
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:20 pm

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Lets wait to head from Limerick before pushing the issue further, yes?
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:35 pm

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TheButtonmen wrote:If we had imprinted two I would have shot Elvis, with three imprints vigging was too much of a risk.
What reference where you given for your imprint?
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:39 pm

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Also please explain how you can hold a gun with this in the mod rules:
- At the end of each day,
all imprints received on the previous day by ordinary actives will be erased
. However, due to their resistance to the mindwiping procedure, rogue actives will retain all imprints indefinitely.
I'm calling BS
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:44 pm

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Farside, I think he meant he just didn't shoot.
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:50 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:Farside, I think he meant he just didn't shoot.
You got that by reading this:
TheButtonmen wrote:
I got a gun, which I holstered.
It's possible but I still think the fact he talked about vigging someone and he got a gun is still too big of a coincidence to be believed.
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:53 pm

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It seemed more like "I got the ability to shoot, but didn't" in flavor terms
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:56 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:It seemed more like "I got the ability to shoot, but didn't" in flavor terms
It's possible but I still think the fact he talked about vigging someone and he got a gun is still too big of a coincidence to be believed.
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:59 pm

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TheButtonmen wrote:7-3 -> NK from scum + Misvig -> 5-3 -> Mislynch + NK -> 3-3 = Town loses

If Scum got a NK and I misvigged it was LyLo with 3 suspects. As such due to the 3 imprints I wasn't willing to risk taking the shot as my scum read on Elvis is about 65-75%.

With 2 imprints, if there's a NK I didn't do I knew who was scum, three removed that certainty. Without that certainty risking putting it at Lylo wasn't something I was comfortable with.
No...

See...

Scum don't get a kill unless they're imprinted with it.

So you're saying that you were worried that one or both of he other imprintees are scum AND would roll a killing role AND would use it.

So, who of the imprintees do you think is scum, and what were the chances of them getting a kill? Given that you got a kill already, the chances of one of hte others also getting a kill seem astronomically low.
Talk nerdy to me.

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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:06 pm

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TheButtonmen wrote:If we had imprinted two I would have shot Elvis, with three imprints vigging was too much of a risk.
Also why would you have shot at EK when all your post during day 3 was about shooting SC.
@ Serial, Yes I'd vig you but there's a lot more power roles then vig
.
Shooting is investigating.
Anyone else believe in coincidences?
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:18 pm

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farside22 wrote:
TheButtonmen wrote:If we had imprinted two I would have shot Elvis, with three imprints vigging was too much of a risk.
Also why would you have shot at EK when all your post during day 3 was about shooting SC.
Except they weren't?
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:20 pm

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farside22 wrote:Also please explain how you can hold a gun with this in the mod rules:
- At the end of each day,
all imprints received on the previous day by ordinary actives will be erased
. However, due to their resistance to the mindwiping procedure, rogue actives will retain all imprints indefinitely.
I'm calling BS
Error in communication here; When I said:
TheButtonmen wrote:I got a gun, which I holstered.
What I meant was I got imprinted with the vig ability (given a gun) which I chose not to use (put the gun in the holster rather then fire).
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:26 pm

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elvis_knits wrote: So you're saying that you were worried that one or both of he other imprintees are scum AND would roll a killing role AND would use it.
Talk nerdy to me.

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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:32 pm

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elvis_knits wrote:
elvis_knits wrote: So you're saying that you were worried that one or both of he other imprintees are scum AND would roll a killing role AND would use it.
No I'm saying the risk that one of the imprintees was scum and got a NK which would lose to a probable town loss vs the rewards of shooting (65-75% read of scum on Elvis) wasn't a profitable trade off in these circumstances.
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:33 pm

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EBYOP: Which would
Lead
to a probable town loss.
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:19 pm

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I also got imprinted with a Vig. I also didn't use it.
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:24 pm

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Farside's keeping her imprint a secret just got a lot more intresting, as she A)Has tracker/watcher data that proves someone just lied or she B) had no reason to want to go last. (See her comment about catching one of us lying.)
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:26 pm

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Farside, go.

Two vig imprints? I wish we had someway to figure out those odds.
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:35 pm

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Limerick, can you go into more detail? Flavour etc?
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:44 pm

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Yeah, I can.

Was was imprinted with the mind of ChiboSempai. He/She was a vig in the game that can be found HERE

I got the vig power. I didn't use it. It didn't say anything other than that.

BTW: I was going to mention this in my first post, but I wasn't sure how much I could say without it being 'quoting' (this is my first 'non-newb' game, and didn't want to accidentally get mod-killed) I was following that up, but after rereading the rules post, I suppose its fine as long as I put it in my own words.
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:51 pm

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