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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:02 pm

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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:57 pm

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Alright, sorry for the extended absence. Lots of unexpected stuff popping up in school....

At any rate, here's my take on things. I think that Chaco is a player that...posts rather hastily, to put it politely. Based on my previous experience with him, this is in line with his play. This does not exonerate him, it just means that my reaction to his posts is a null read at the moment.

Cobalt...is a difficult read. As one of the more prominent trolls on the site, his playstyle is obviously attuned to inducing a gut emotional reaction in the posters following his statements. In a way, though, this is beneficial to the town. I would posit that his style is actually better than random vote for getting the game going a bit more on D1, and right now, I'm reading him as town. This may change dramatically, as first-day reads are wont to do. Still, I don't think that *either* of them are the play today.

Percy: In response to your question, my vote on SSK is not a serious attempt to lynch. It is merely a psuedo-random vote on someone which was placed because I really do hate random voting. We've discussed this before, if I recall.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:38 am

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Okay.
unvote
for the moment as I think quite a bit has happened since my initial chaco vote and I have to really consider whether the reasons put onto chaco so far are my own.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:05 am

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@Percy- Its easier to discuss ability usage to determine alignment then it is to play a normal game. Most scum know how to deal with a RVS, but don't neccesarily know how to discuss the open nature of a theme setup in a protown manner.

Whats dissapointing is the lack of feedback I get on my posts. This game has been incredibly uninteractive for me.

Are you going to snow me in with text walls like you did last game as scum Percy?

As outlined before I dislike Zoraster's wanting to push everyone one direction when it has been pointed out by numerous people that it is likely a waste of resources and its counter-able

His original reason for voting chaco is because Chaco was criticizing his stragegy (yes I am aware of the recent unvote, point stands). He has never adressed a mafia as a whole rushing recruit as a counter to his strategy when I brought it up. Town needs diversity. While yes having 1 town take a BP to stop 1 bullet is awesome, losing 9 actions to stop a few bullets is NOT optimal.

Vote: Zoraster
to see if he will actually listen to other people.

@all- Notice that Tar set a 4 day deadline now. We need to lynch someone today. And while I will be willing to deadline vote chaco, I do not think it is the best choice today. He seems just like how he was playing in Percy's cult game as town to me.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:45 pm

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Vote: Malthusis
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I didn't know you were in the game until I took another glance at the playerlist. Two posts so far, one of them active lurking.

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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:01 pm

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Pom wrote:
@UK- What do you put in for game number?
In the url of this page, there is a t=?????

The number after t= is what you want.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:36 am

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It's really hard to find solid info on to lynch in this game. The past 5 pages have been mostly setup speculation (which is mostly an null tell in my opinion), and RVS. Even though I have slight inclinations on who is scum/town, I really feel uncomfortable lynching a person such little evidence. I still haven't made up my mind on who to lynch yet, but I will definitely be deciding who to put my vote on tomorrow if nothing important happens.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:06 am

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malthusis wrote:It's really hard to find solid info on to lynch in this game. The past 5 pages have been mostly setup speculation (which is mostly an null tell in my opinion), and RVS. Even though I have slight inclinations on who is scum/town, I really feel uncomfortable lynching a person such little evidence. I still haven't made up my mind on who to lynch yet, but I will definitely be deciding who to put my vote on tomorrow if nothing important happens.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:57 am

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Brilliant, SSK, pure brilliance. Perhaps you should tell us
why
we should be looking at Cobalt and
what
he has done that is so scummy?
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:59 pm

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Netopalis wrote:Brilliant, SSK, pure brilliance. Perhaps you should tell us
why
we should be looking at Cobalt and
what
he has done that is so scummy?
Yes, this.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:57 pm

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Sajin 128 wrote:Are you going to snow me in with text walls like you did last game as scum Percy?
Sure! :roll:
malthusis 131 wrote:It's really hard to find solid info on to lynch in this game. The past 5 pages have been mostly setup speculation (which is mostly an null tell in my opinion), and RVS. Even though I have slight inclinations on who is scum/town, I really feel uncomfortable lynching a person such little evidence. I still haven't made up my mind on who to lynch yet, but I will definitely be deciding who to put my vote on tomorrow if nothing important happens.
What are these "slight inclinations"? Why are you holding back your vote and your reads to jump on a deadline wagon tomorrow?

In other news, deadline is really close. Just to make this clear:
The Rules wrote:<10> If no one has reached majority by deadline, one of the following three things will happen:
a) If a majority of voting players are voting for a player, that player will be lynched.
b) If more than half of voting players are voting for one of two players, each of those players will send me a haiku. Whichever one is more amusing will be spared the rope. (Example: If thirteen players are voting out of 21, and 4 of those are voting for Player A and 5 are voting for Player B, Player A and Player B will need to send me haikus.)
c) If neither a) nor b) are applicable, No Lynch will occur.
Currently Chaco is on three votes (Pomegranate didn't Unvote before switching to malthusis) and Cobalt is on three votes, so we are in case c). I suspect that Pomegranate will unvote when she sees this, so at this rate we'll definitely end up in case c). This is not good. I'm going to leave my vote on Chaco and see what he posts before deadline; however, I'm equally comfortable with a malthusis lynch at this point.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:05 pm

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Yes-
Unvote; Vote: Malthusis
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:10 pm

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It seems that 11 votes are in play right now, and with a majority of them on one of two wagons (Chaco and Cobalt), B will go into effect.

(Obviously, this is only if no one switches his/her vote.)
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:11 pm

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Oh, scratch that, you're right.

I'll switch to a larger wagon if it's necessary closer to deadline.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:32 pm

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Hit an unexpected V/LA, catching up soonish.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:41 pm

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Being so close to deadline, barring any changes I will be leaving my vote where it is.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:22 am

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I'm kinda with what malt said in his last post. With most of the discussion just being on the Tree Tech so far, I'm not getting much of a read on a lot of players. I'll be leaving my vote on Cobalt for now, but am willing to switch to Chaco if necessary. Neither comes of as particularly town to me, so I'm not really against either lynch.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:42 am

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let's lynch vaya tomorrow guys
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:53 am

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What are these "slight inclinations"? Why are you holding back your vote and your reads to jump on a deadline wagon tomorrow?
I had a day (from that post) to safely pick someone who I could lynch. I just wanted to have a bit more time to think about my vote.

And I have decided to
Unvote, Vote:Chaco


Under normal circumstances, I would have not voted him, but he's honestly the best bet out there right now for a lynch. The Cobalt case in my mind isn't stronger then Chaco in my mind. Sure he's been posting weird things, but weird doesn't=scum.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:37 am

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malt wrote:

I had a day (from that post) to safely pick someone who I could lynch. I just wanted to have a bit more time to think about my vote
Safely? What's that supposed to mean?
malt wrote: Sure he's been posting weird things, but weird doesn't=scum.
But weird things that don't produce content are rather scummy, ne?
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:28 am

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UncertainKitten wrote:
malt wrote:

I had a day (from that post) to safely pick someone who I could lynch. I just wanted to have a bit more time to think about my vote
Safely? What's that supposed to mean?
malt wrote: Sure he's been posting weird things, but weird doesn't=scum.
But weird things that don't produce content are rather scummy, ne?
To the first part: We need a certain number of votes on a person right now to get a lynch (Percy explains this better then I can, look at his post). If I want to bring any new ideas into this discussion, I need to do it soon enough that everyone will look at it before their final vote.

To the second part: I would agree with that somewhat, but he HAS posted content (and original content at that, with his case on SSK).
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:43 am

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malt wrote:
To the second part: I would agree with that somewhat, but he HAS posted content (and original content at that, with his case on SSK).
I'd love a link to this.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:50 am

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See Posts #61-68.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:04 am

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See Posts #61-68.
More like misrep and...um...not a case. At best there's kinda a case on Chaco. Not sure I agree, but I'm kinda biased against that wagon thanks to "lol, L-3 in super fast mode"
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:35 am

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I'm not talking about the case on SSK. I am simply providing evidence to back up my counter-point. (You said that weird things that don't produce content are scummy. I showed you that he has produced content.)

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